Whoa! Too much Throat hit! Help!!!

[rajani]

I am vaping 36mg nic with no problems. I used to use a 50/50, but since I DIY, I mix close to 95%VG. The VG helps smooth it out. You could also just be having a reaction to the PG as some do. If you find that after increasing your VG that it is too thick, then add some DW to thin. Also, use a standard resistance cart. You might want to try a CE-3 that is a bottom feeder and the distance from the coil means a really mellow TH. PGA or vodka will only increase the TH. Also, you should use a drip tip, that will distance you from the heat of the coil and that will help too. Combined, all this should solve your problem.

Last note: liquid plays a big role, acidic and harsh flavors can increase TH and irritation. Stay away from cinnamon or just tobacco (not all) as they can be really harsh. You might just have to work up to TH, that after a time will lessen anyway.

Hope this helps

Saludos

Thank you so much. I did try diluting my juice with vg and it made a huge difference! I can't be exactly sure of the percentages that I now have, (after trial run I have 4 cartos filled with 4 different flavors). I used the plastic tips that come on the cartos, I dropped 8 drops from the 2.5 ml bottle itself and 2 drops from the glycerin bottle itself into the carto, stirred with a toothpick then slid the carto on the "condom", lol. Very nice hit. Nice and smooth. I'm not sure about how the nicotine affected me, I was concentrating on the smooth hit and still on analogs (but cut down drastically). I have a drip tip but I can't fit it on the carto so I need to figure out what I'm missing in this puzzle there. I did notice the dark color juices are stronger on my throat.

 

[rajani]

Are you sure that the carto is making contact with your new battery? Is the positive connector slightly more recessed on the new battery maybe?

I'm not sure if it is or not, I just assumed it was the battery. I'll have to see if I can figure this out,, thank u for suggestion.

 

[rajani]

It is not at all unusual for new vapors to find the hit quite harsh . As previous posters have stated , nic content and pg % contribute to throat hit. As Harplayr pointed out , lower resistance atomizer/cartomizers make for a warmer vapor which further exacerbates the issue.
Some people are allergic to pg . This may or may not be an issue for you. I'd suggest going to Walmart or the pharmacy and purchase a bottle of glycerin. About $4. Also get a dropper from a cake making store or maybe Walmart has them too.
In a small jar or clean soda cap, using the dropper try 4 drops of your juice and 1 drops glycerin. Stir that with a toothpick and try dripping a few drops on an atomizer that came with your KGO if you have one .
This will mute the flavor a little and increase the pg /vg content of that small sample by 25% more vg giving you 45% pg/55%vg and the nic level to just under 29mg . Should produce more vapor and smoother th.
If you like the results , order future juices at 50/50 pg/vg ratio.
Also , after having been vaping for a little over a year , I still enjoy the occasional 36mg/ml juice. Its high , but do what you have to do to get off stinkies. And vendors do sell unflavored juice FYI.
Russ

Thank you for the suggestion with details. I tried it and the TH was not harsh at all, it was nice and smooth! I'm not sure what ratio I ended up with but atleast I know what not to do on my next order!

 

[rajani]

Also I find the way you inhale can affect the TH, depending on if you are sucking in to your mouth or doing a lung inhale can make a big difference to that harshness in combination with all the other factors mentioned.

I tried a lung inhale on the very first puff, coughed so long and hard! Big mistake there! After that first puff,, I took small puffs and held them in my mouth,, that was still to strong. I read on here somewhere that the nicotine is absorbed through the mouth and nose,, if that is correct then I really don't need to inhale to get my fix?

 

[ShogaNinja]

It's your nic level. Try 24. 36 is for people who want a reckless throat hit. You know, the kind of people who smoke a non-filter wide in one drag? Yeah. Unless you smoked 2 packs a day or more anything above 24 is crazy talk.
24mg is the 1-2pack a day range. You'll adjust.

For the record, I have a KGO. It's not the KGO. The only other thing that can affect throat hit is the PG/VG mix but I'm guaranteeing you that it's the 36mg nic level. You can thin it out with purified water or even some high proof alcohol but god knows what you'll get. You'll kill the flavor too. If you had some DIY materials you could adjust it down but I'm thinking you don't.

 

[dragonface]

I've been having the same TH issue, rajani. The advice I got was that nic strength and PG/VG ratio are big factors (pretty much what everybody's saying here). I'm going to use some of these suggestions, too.

 

[Rimau]

Shoga -- any type of alcohol will increase TH. Most vets use vodka or PGA to increase TH, that is why I only cut with DW.

Rajani -- I am glad it helped. The VG will smooth it out and give huge clouds of vapor. Remember too that some carts are just harsher than others. Play around with different types of carts as you gain experience. After awhile you will find what works best for you. If for some reason you think it is the nic mg, but still want to have a higher nic, use sweeter liquid, but remember that they can gum up the coil/wick and you will need to clean more often. Last note: try carts that don't have filler, just wicks. That will make a big difference. I always hated carts with filler and haven't used one in years, just tanks, CE's, and drip.

 

[JunkyRock13]

I have been vaping for just about 2.5 months, and I first thought that I needed to get the highest nic level, because I was just coming off of analogs, and when I bought the NJoy from the local convenient store, it was not enough. So I went and got I thing 36 nic level, and WOW, way too much. I was lucky that I ordered a few different levels like, 24, 18, and 12. Just because I thought I was going to ween down the nic level. Come to find out the 18 level is perfect for me. Great TH, Flavor, and tons of vapor. Iusually only get 80 PG and 20 VG. But everyone always has to remember that what is good for me, may not be good for you. I personally think you only problem with the TH is the nic level. The reason why it felt better when you added Glycerin, is because you were bringing down the nic level by diluting it. Again this is only my opinion. I don't want anyone to come down on me for giving the wrong advice. I think the next time you get some juice, just pick up a bottle of 18mg nic to try my theory, and hopefully it will work. My daughter tried my 18mg juice, and couldn't even stop coughing after one hit. When she bought a kit, she got some 6mg juice and also No nic flavored juice, but the zero nic was like breathing flavored air. but the 6mg was perfect for her. So take it for what it is worth, and hope this helps. Just keep on trying some different cartos, and attys, and you will find what exactly what you are looking for. My mission is to find the perfect flavor, but my taste keeps on changing now that I don't smoke analogs. What I find tasty today, next week repulses me. So I will keep on searching. Right now I am really feeling the Halo Tribecca 18 mg juice, REALLY TASTY!! Take care, and good luck!!!

 

[Renzuli]

Welcome , and you can also tone down the nic level a little . Go to Walmart and get some VG ( vegetable Glycerin ) Besides cutting down the nic level , you will also get more vapor . Take your 36 mg and cut it in half with the straight VG and you end up with 18 mg. The throat hit will be toned , way down .

 

[ByeByeCoffinNails]

This is what I would do. I have to do this a lot because my vendors take a long time to restock the 18mg I use.

The nicotine gives you the throat hit. If it is too strong, dilute it with PG (Propylene glycol) until the throat hit is to your liking.

If you have 10ml of 36mg and you add 10ml of PG to it, you will get 20ml of 18mg juice. Make sure you mix it well.

18mg is about average for a cigarette. I know in the USA, stronger cigarettes exist but chances are, 18mg will suit.

Apologies for the duplication!

Remeber, stay in your comfort zone. If you don't feel comfortable diluting your juice, try the carto option.

Love to All

 

[Rimau]

You have to remember that the nic in our liquid can't be measured as equal to an analogue. We still are not sure how much absorption we get from liquid verses an analogue that has chemicals that increase absorption rates, that is why you get an immediate and intense rush within seconds of hitting an analogue. If you look around there are charts that some members have come up with that is a ballpark as to nic and consumption (mg/ml consumed). Also, by diluting with non nic PG or VG, you are softening the flavor and whatever else may be giving you a harsher TH. Pick up some Vape Magic, bitter wizard, or magic mask that lowers the acidity and PH level, and throw a few drops into your liquid, that might give you the lower TH and you can still have the nic level you want. Since I DIY it I can use get my target nic and still have a smooth hit by modifying ingredients.

 

[Thank You]

i stick with the 24mg.. 36mg.. would probably wack me out