Whole Tobacco Alkaloid vs Naturally extracted tobaco

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I don't remember the other either, but Aroma is as far as you need to go in my opinion. I didn't get one juice that I didn't like (OK, I take that back - I didn't like Clove much), including a bakery type, which was good even though I don't generally like sweet flavors. I don't know how "safe" WTA is as opposed to other liquids, so I really only recommend it for someone that's having trouble quitting, as a general rule.
PS. If you like menthol, get P38. :)
 

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https://vapelicious.com/shop/

Vapelicious is the other vendor you may have been referring to. They even offer WTA extract for the DIYer, or just to add to your favorite juice.

As gthompson said, there is no residual WTA in NET tobaccos. The extraction process for WTA is a little more involved than extracting just flavor.
 

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That's news. Didn't know that NET process doesn't garner the whole tobacco experience. Darn. Since I started DIY I was looking in to trying that. Well shoot. I don't even care for tobacco flavoring so there goes that part of DIY. there is a vaperizor, CERA, says you can vaporize your tobacco with it. Stir I up in some bowl or whatever. Does this mean you wont get any nicotine or whole tobacco experience? Just flavor? Very good to know. Just keep reading on ecf and check things out before you buy Faylool ( that's me)
 

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That's news. Didn't know that NET process doesn't garner the whole tobacco experience. Darn. Since I started DIY I was looking in to trying that. Well shoot. I don't even care for tobacco flavoring so there goes that part of DIY. there is a vaperizor, CERA, says you can vaporize your tobacco with it. Stir I up in some bowl or whatever. Does this mean you wont get any nicotine or whole tobacco experience? Just flavor? Very good to know. Just keep reading on ecf and check things out before you buy Faylool ( that's me)

Well, technically you can't really have a 0 nic extract, but I've only seen guesses on how much you'll get without adding any. 3-5 mg maybe?
 

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Would that mean that the other alkaloids would be in the same levels, percentage wise?

Now I can't swear to this as I'm not any kind of expert on this subject, but the people that seem to be knowledgeable on the subject say that a simple tobacco extraction results in insignificant amounts of WTA. Extracting WTAs is a much more involved and expensive process. If that's true, then the answer to your question is no.
 

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I'm only a Wikipedia, cut and paste scientist myself, But it sure seems to me that any simple fluid extraction from tobacco, that resulted in any residual Nicotine presence, would almost have to contain the other alkaloids in their relative percentages, due to their similar composition and weight. But there may be a lot I don't understand about the others.


Nicotine:
Formula C10,H14,N2
Mol. mass 162.12 g/mol

Nornicotine:
Molecular formula C9,H12,N2
Molar mass 148.2 g mol−1

Anabasine:
Formula C10,H14,N2
Mol. mass 162.23 g/mol

Myosmine:
Molecular formula C9,H10,N2
Molar mass 146.19 g mol−1

Anatabine:
Formula C10,H12,N2
Mol. mass 160.22 g/mol
 
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