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[Hulamoon]

That sounds like a brilliant idea. And I'm glad you mentioned it, because I was wondering how much/little I could add in order for the WTA to be truly effective. Huntsman WITH WTA.....cue angel music "aaaaaaAAAAAHHHHHHH".

Oh - and for Kenny, I DO know that Heathers Heavenly Vapes' Purity Line is ALL VG, base flavor as well. Many vendors call their liquids 100% VG, but in fact the base flavoring uses PG. There's several folk I know who use HHV because of the complete absence of PG in any way shape or form in the Purity Line.

Hey Hula, I've talked to Nick--and I imagine Adam would do this too--regarding getting zero nic 2x flavor of their juices. Then we could add the unflavored WTA and get our NETs WTA style! (But without altering the composition of the WTA, though the percentage would drop a bit.)

If you add 10 mL of 25 mg WTA unflavored to 10 mL (2x the flavor) NET, you'll end up with 12.5 mg WTA for 20 mL WTA/NET. That's a little low for me, so I would have to add 10 mL unflavored WTA to about 4.7 mL (2x the flavor) NET to get about 17 mg. It's not a huge yield, but I could get 14.7 mL of 17 mg WTA/NET. I was thinking about doing it with Patriot and Huntsman.

 

[Cnew]

... I would have to add 10 mL unflavored WTA to about 4.7 mL (2x the flavor) NET to get about 17 mg. It's not a huge yield, but I could get 14.7 mL of 17 mg WTA/NET. I was thinking about doing it with Patriot and Huntsman.

That is EXACTLY what I have been doing Mann! Only I use the MVJ and will probably order their DIY NET extract flavorings next time.
SOOOOOOOOOOOOOO satisfying.
The only thing else I do is unflavored WTA. JUST PERFECT for me. Not too sweet, just enough 'flavor' and perfect throat hits every time on every jdd (atty or carto) at every wattage.

WholeCig, YOU ROCK

 

[Cnew]

Thanks all you Guys that are looking out for me.... I feel overwhelmed yet humbled that complete strangers are willing to go out of way to help a brother . I really appreciate that …I smoked over 30 years ,always considered it as sinful,Was always embarrassed and hid my habit as well. When I actuality was smoke free and durring my detox.. I realzed and confessed that I was an addict..... then After I crashed I was very bummed out that I failed... This whole quitting smoking thing has effected me more than I may have realized... .

This was something that i was doin for my family and my personal Faith. I must confess quitting smoking has/ had been a very dramatic time for me it was more than what I bargained for more than 45 days of withdrawals . Reactions to ALL the juices bases anything with PG . Then when I discovered I needed WTA, but wasn't able to get it without PG in it...it all went south.... but And to top it off I DID NOT get support in my home either so u guys where my only support.

U have no idea what hap to me after the crash now i consider my tobacco as sacred like the Indians did . ya know ? Hopefully I can TRY again and get some sort of replacement with a PG free e liquid... As far as the new source , tried to purchase twice and it was gone ... some good news the owner wrote me said he was trying to save a bottle .he mentioned One of my (anonymous ) buddies on the forum went ahead and bought one, . Ohhh Good news .He also said he was expanding soon maybe able to meet demands...so who knows if this works out after all i may have an alternative

You guys are the best......... thanks for looking out . Btw i already tried Snus and snuff and that didn't work out too well either ,,, thanks again for looking out for a brother . What a blessing to know u guys do care....... During my 45 day withdrawal/ which lead to a crash .. it was scary , didn't know what was happening because at the same time I had MAJOR PG issues. which were masked by the withdraws. I don't think anyone would have gone through that hell as long as I did....but i was determined to quit.... never ever ever in my life had I had an allergy or a reaction to anything before so I did not think I could have been effected physically no less loose it if ya know what I mean? It took me a while to figure out isolate what was happening my body because of all the variables. I was determined to quit and toughed it out a long period …....Than it took some time to come back to base line..It was bad didn't think I was gonna ever rebound no less ever be able to try again,
thanks for listening
Humbly yours
Kenny v

Hi Kenny,
Congratulations. You know, being addicted to nicotine or whole tobacco alkaloids is no worse than being addicted to caffeine. No, smoking isn't good for our health, but, really, there are so many other things that can kill us. As long as we keep genuinely trying our best, that's all any of us can do. (Do your best and let God do the rest.)
Besides, in the end, none of us will live forever. So just keep doing your best to take care of the gifts God has given you (including your body and your health) and to give back to Him all that you can. When I feel like I'm not giving back enough, I just ask Him to help me do better....and trust that He will, in His own time.
Blessings!

 

[mecocina]

I like the idea but how much would the additional 4.7-10mls dilute down the WTA?

 

[Cnew]

I like the idea but how much would the additional 4.7-10mls dilute down the WTA?

maybe just add the flavorings you like from vendors who sell theirs for DIY?

 

[mecocina]

I was going to try that using the unflavored as my base. I just don't want to "water" down the WTA effect.

 

[Mr.Mann]

I like the idea but how much would the additional 4.7-10mls dilute down the WTA?

17 mg/mL would be your end WTA (about .85 mg/mL of the minor alkaloids). In the 25 mg WTA unflavored, 23.75 mg/ML is the nicotine and 1.25 mg is the minor alkaloids.

The flavor might be a little diminished by adding 10 mL of unflavored WTA to 4.7 mL 2x flavored, but not buy much. Honestly, if I was to do it, it would be in the long-term future as I frankly am more concerned with keeping my unflavored WTA unmolested for now. Maybe when I know I can get a big bottle I'll be more inclined to dabble. Even though that Huntsman WTA really does look appealing.

 

[Mr.Mann]

I was going to try that using the unflavored as my base. I just don't want to "water" down the WTA effect.

Short of JFresh selling a higher percentage WTA strictly, I repeat, STRICTLY for DIY, then we are left with 25 mg unflavored, or less whenever we add anything to it. (I emphasize strictly because vaping high percentages of WTA concentration would be not so pleasant.) Adding any other liquid to the unflavored or adding the unflavored to any liquid (with or without nic) will diminish the minor alkaloid content. How much it get's diluted is determined by how much liquid is in the exchange.

 

[mecocina]

17 mg/mL would be your end WTA (about .85 mg/mL of the minor alkaloids). In the 25 mg WTA unflavored, 23.75 mg/ML is the nicotine and 1.25 mg is the minor alkaloids.

The flavor might be a little diminished by adding 10 mL of unflavored WTA to 4.7 mL 2x flavored, but not buy much. Honestly, if I was to do it, it would be in the long-term future as I frankly am more concerned with keeping my unflavored WTA unmolested for now. Maybe when I know I can get a big bottle I'll be more inclined to dabble. Even though that Huntsman WTA really does look appealing.

A larger bottle would be ideal for DIY. I was going to ask where the 5% alkaloids went then I figured it out

I'm getting ready to strain my Virginia tobacco extraction and I thought this would go well with it. Still experimenting so there's no rush.

I love learning

 

[Erised]

According to online tracking my WTA is out for delivery! Time to stalk (oops, I mean keep an eye out for) my mailman!

 

[loxmythe]

Got home Sunday to find my order waiting in the mailbox
Mr Mann is right this stuff is ok unflavored. I think I'm going to add a ml of EM though to sweeten it a tad.
Today will be my first day using it. I'll be on a jobsite all day and going to leave my cigarettes at the office. I'll report back tonight how it works

 

[Mr.Mann]

According to online tracking my WTA is out for delivery! Time to stalk (oops, I mean keep an eye out for) my mailman!

Just checked and so is mine!!!

 

[Mr.Mann]

Got home Sunday to find my order waiting in the mailbox
Mr Mann is right this stuff is ok unflavored. I think I'm going to add a ml of EM though to sweeten it a tad.
Today will be my first day using it. I'll be on a jobsite all day and going to leave my cigarettes at the office. I'll report back tonight how it works

Bold move! Can't wait to read your thoughts.

 

[KENNY V]

Short of JFresh selling a higher percentage WTA strictly, I repeat, STRICTLY for DIY, then we are left with 25 mg unflavored, or less whenever we add anything to it. (I emphasize strictly because vaping high percentages of WTA concentration would be not so pleasant.) Adding any other liquid to the unflavored or adding the unflavored to any liquid (with or without nic) will diminish the minor alkaloid content. How much it get's diluted is determined by how much liquid is in the exchange.

thanks all you guys for over weekend giving me heads up when the unflavored was avail ..didnt make it to website in time however GOOD NEWS someone covered me and is sending a bottle out to me shortly


with that said bc of my past issues with PG mix base a I will be trying to vape again using unflavored WTA's .let me ask MR Mann can u elaborate more on what you mention in this Post. In the line of why you said about vaping high percentage of WTS would not be pleasant. ?

Now I dont know how the % works out but when I get the Unflavored I will try that FIRST than eventuality like to add a tad of flavor . How much flavor would you say would be Ok to add lets say to the 10 ml bottle without loosing the WTA effect ? thanks

 

[mecocina]

I guess my tracking info was correct. When I checked usps yesterday it said it shipped 6/18...I ordered on 6/21 LOL. Checked this morning and it's at my post office! Darn usps But great that I may get it today

 

[KENNY V]

That sounds like a brilliant idea. And I'm glad you mentioned it, because I was wondering how much/little I could add in order for the WTA to be truly effective. Huntsman WITH WTA.....cue angel music "aaaaaaAAAAAHHHHHHH".

Oh - and for Kenny, I DO know that Heathers Heavenly Vapes' Purity Line is ALL VG, base flavor as well. Many vendors call their liquids 100% VG, but in fact the base flavoring uses PG. There's several folk I know who use HHV because of the complete absence of PG in any way shape or form in the Purity Line.

I could not agree with you more . Many vendors dont tell you ALL the details as of what is in base flavors or else is in their juices.... Some may say VG line however have up to 10% of PG in it … I think that is wrong somewhat deceiving and mostly misrepresenting the product they boast .


thanks for heads up... I did not order from them yet , but when I was ruling out flavors dies and such I ordered like 20 bottles of e juice from a recommended Organic source .. only to find out it was all alcohol base... Dunno why they did not state that or list as ingredients. I gave away a bunch of them..
and thew away a bunch BC for some reason that base was tough to drip.JMHO did not taste too good either. I was instructed to open bottles and air out 24 hours with a fan blowing over top.. Well it did thinken up the juice a bit however the taste still didnt cut it. So the rest was donated to the garbage...lol

 

[Mr.Mann]

thanks all you guys for over weekend giving me heads up when the unflavored was avail ..didnt make it to website in time however GOOD NEWS someone covered me and is sending a bottle out to me shortly


with that said bc of my past issues with PG mix base a I will be trying to vape again using unflavored WTA's .let me ask MR Mann can u elaborate more on what you mention in this Post. In the line of why you said about vaping high percentage of WTS would not be pleasant. ?

Now I dont know how the % works out but when I get the Unflavored I will try that FIRST than eventuality like to add a tad of flavor . How much flavor would you say would be Ok to add lets say to the 10 ml bottle without loosing the WTA effect ? thanks

What nic% do you usually vape? What amount of cigs did you used to smoke or still do?

 

[KENNY V]

What nic% do you usually vape? What amount of cigs did you used to smoke or still do?

Vaped 24- 36 Mg ..but never officially transitioned

Used to smoke 1 PAD reds Winston camels or any full flavor that was on sale.
Presently stabilized with approx 12 organic RYO i give myself 7 a day ... however treat my self as needed. I went through HELL never want to go their again...

Its gona be tough to comeback because i found my first love again . However if i toughed out 45-60 days of major withdrawals/ /PG reactions ( ever have a never ending headache) brain fog and ears clogged ...and not getting any satisfaction than i guess i can tough out anything right?

 

[Mr.Mann]

Vaped 24- 36 Mg ..but never officially transitioned

Used to smoke 1 PAD reds Winston camels or any full flavor that was on sale.
Presently stabilized with approx 12 organic RYO i give myself 7 a day ... however treat my self as needed. I went through HELL never want to go their again...

Its gona be tough to comeback because i found my first love again . However if i toughed out 45-60 days of major withdrawals/ /PG reactions ( ever have a never ending headache) brain fog and ears clogged ...and not getting any satisfaction than i guess i can tough out anything right?

Yeah, anything more than 25 mg 100% WTA could possible make you sick. 25 mg is about the same tobacco alkaloid spread as those full flavored cigs. Higher than 25 mg would be for those people who take in more smoke than they do air.

If adding juice to your 10 mL of unflavored, I would say add no more than 4.7 mL of a concentrated flavor (meaning no nicotine) and you would end up at 17 mg. If you add a nicotine juice, just know that you will be getting more nicotine than what is in a natural tobacco spread and it may get you more speedy than relaxed--maybe.

I think you may just like the unflavored as is.

 

[FL Lori]

I reported i didnt like the flavor. But it grew on me. Kenny glad you got some.