Whooooa!!! It's here!!! And is it ever yummy!!! Triton/G6 NooB reports:

[BigBen2k]

Give it another week; you'll find out that your car stinks...

There are over 100 different additives to our e-liquids, that manufacturers choose from, to make a flavor. VG by itself is not a great carrying agent for these additives, but PG does a much better job. Adding water does nothing, but change the viscosity. The issue we have, is that some of these additives:
-don't carry/blend well, even in PG.
-don't blend easily, so stay "clumped" in the base (base= PG/VG). Fixed by heating.
-are volatile.
-can caramelize at varying temperatures.
-can burn at typical temperatures.

Right now, I'm trying some PGA (just a few drops) in some basic flavors. It seems to be taking off the harshness/acidity, without changing the flavors.

I need a lab.

 

[Seapup]

Yeah, so WHAT'S THE DEAL??? How much a this eLiquid am I gonna be devouring? You say 2 tanks gets U through work? That's almost 5ml before U even get home! Yikes. Doesn't look like I'm gonna be SAVING any $$$ on this deal. (?)

hmmmmm...

So, let's get some reports here, kiddos... How Much eLiquid do YOU go through in a day?

(and by the way, when people say "4 hours" -stupid question-I'm FULL of those- is that actual VAPE-time? Or just 4 hours of intermittent Vaping?)

I average about 3-4 ml/day. Some days less, some days significantly more. Like today... 1/2 tank of "other brand" on the way to the office in traffic, none @ work (meetings), 1/2 tank of Kringle's Curse on the way home (stuck in traffic, again), sampled a bunch of other stuff before dinner (~1.5 ml total), an entire tank of Malibu after gorging on Chinese food this evening (2.4 ml) and am now sucking on "other, other brand". I'll end up having vaped over 6 ml before nodding off. Tomorrow I'll probably do about 2-3 ml. And Saturday... I'm looking forward to doing an all day/night powervape orgy running through 15-20 different flavors.

 

[wheezal]

I go through 2 to 4 mL per day. I'm a "light" vaper.

2 to 4 is light? i go through 1 to 2 per day. what level am i? ultralight vaper? inferior vaper? need-to-vape-more vaper? i didnt think this schtick through...its nowhere near as witty as i was hoping.

 

[Boston Vapah]

Excellent review by the way.

Welcome to the wonderful world of vaping

I'm now waiting on the gourmet sample pack along with Voodoo, Southern, and Tiki.

 

[SeniorBoy]

@Ben - As in BB2k - YOU would be an outstanding member of the DIY Forum on ECF. Forget the lab, just do it. Ping me when you start so I can share all the mistakes I've made in DIY which should help. LOL BTW, "Smoothing" of a given mix is normally done at the mixing level using EM (Ethyl Maltol) or "Cotton Candy" which contains EM. A very small amount or you nuke the mix and I've done that numerous times. Of course you can experiment with finished juices using EM but Iv'e not done that YET. LOL

Returning to our regularly scheduled programing and please excuse my off topic above:

Please, no one should freak out about their juice consumption per day. It's part of the journey ala dynamic/changing in nature so one size does not fit all and their is no rule for what is best for YOU. I'm around 3ML per day with some days I go nutso and peak at 6 or even 7. Just depends. Certainly something I would not worry about at the start of the vaping journey since it will probably change as you continue to suck on the tip so a budget or calculation would be inherently flawed. Their are other factors we are discussing in this thread that are far more important as you embrace vaping.

Which reminds me of your next homework assignment @Treats! lol and dovetails many of the thoughts from the gang about "changes" and I'm using that term in the generic sence. lol

So I reach vertical this AM and I want to start my AM vape fest with 6MG and NOT 12MG. The first day I have tried this in the AM. I'm a little nervous about this because I'm toast without my AM vape and coffee. OK, I have some Southern Classic @6MG from last nights sauna treatment and it's like yummy yummy "crackness" BUT I also know that for me I need to refresh the "buds" with an AM rotation of other tobacco centric juices. I look around and I have nothing in my tanks at 6MG of the tobacco family other than SC. Then I goto my stash and find some Torque 56 at various NIC levels. Including 6MG. It's been sitting in the back of my stash for 3 months or more because I stopped vaping it and hated the flavor. OMG HOLLY HALOWEENIE. Grabed the 6MG, filed and vaped! WOW! Love it. A pure tobacco vape on the milder side but pure with an absolutely mind blowing "sweet" note on the draw and the finish. It's this sweet note that I never recall tasting before but I love this stuff and it compliments my "crack vape" in the AM which is SC @ 6MG

 

[Zombieslug]

@ BigBen - I gotta ask: doesn't it freak any of you out (at least a LITTLE BIT) that there are "over 100 additives" in these Juices?

Gotta say, though - I feel a LOT better smoking (sorry! - VAPING) these Juices than inhaling cigarette smoke. Huge difference already in my throat, my lungs, just an overall feeling of well-being... clean, enjoyable, reduced guilt (right or wrong) puffing time. Which has ALWAYS been one of my Absolutely Favorite Pass times.
And is now So Much More Pleasant.

@Boy: "Which reminds me of your next homework assignment @Treats!" ...

What was the assignment, exactly?

Oh Yes... "Sucking The Tip" ... (jury's still out on that phrase for me, personally...)

 

[sflorian]

Yeah, so WHAT'S THE DEAL??? How much a this eLiquid am I gonna be devouring?

Hi, Smokie! Welcome to the rest of your life. If I were you, I would mark this date on your calandar. Plus, you're in very good company here on the Halo subforum. I haven't communicated very much here, but all the regulars and a few strays (sort of like myself) have all helped me out a lot with my questions about my gear (whether I was the one asking or not). Other forums have not been nearly as warm, welcome, or helpful as this one.

My usage varies quite a bit. If I'm really busy all day, I usually only go through maybe 3mL from wakeup to bedtime. It's when I have down time by myself that I start delving into the three tank range.

The big thing that I wanted to comment on to you is about one of the very nice things about the Triton tanks. The tanks are extremely economical in their liquid consumption. Anyone that has tried a few other tanks out there will probably testify to this. Granted, it results in a bigger hit, but realistically, the Triton has a great balance of juice used and vapor produced. I love this system.

 

[BigBen2k]

Ah but when I say 100 additives, I'm referring to the flavors. I don't know what flavors you prefer, but if you have a juice with 100 flavors in it, I'd like to know what it is.

Most e-liquids have VG, PG, nicotine, and at most three flavors.

 

[Zombieslug]

Hi, Smokie! Welcome to the rest of your life. If I were you, I would mark this date on your calandar. Plus, you're in very good company here on the Halo subforum. I haven't communicated very much here, but all the regulars and a few strays (sort of like myself) have all helped me out a lot with my questions about my gear (whether I was the one asking or not). Other forums have not been nearly as warm, welcome, or helpful as this one.

My usage varies quite a bit. If I'm really busy all day, I usually only go through maybe 3mL from wakeup to bedtime. It's when I have down time by myself that I start delving into the three tank range.

The big thing that I wanted to comment on to you is about one of the very nice things about the Triton tanks. The tanks are extremely economical in their liquid consumption. Anyone that has tried a few other tanks out there will probably testify to this. Granted, it results in a bigger hit, but realistically, the Triton has a great balance of juice used and vapor produced. I love this system.

Yes... Yes... and YES!

Dude, I JUST THIS VERY SECOND would say that I have it -ALL DIALED IN-.8-o
100%
& the people here were (are) BY FAR the Greatest Resource I could Imagine, or even Dream of... with a WEALTH of Information -shared freely & happily by One & All.

When I say "Dialed in"... I mean -I GOT MY VV TWIST!!!-
WOW!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!

{Thanks to "SeniorBoy"'s advice about the VV in another post (AngieB's? I think.) I did the
#1) -throw on a tank-
#2) - set the Twist to 3.8v & try it.
#3) - move to halfway point between 3.8v & 4.3v & try it.
#4) - move to 4.3v & try it.
#5) - move halfway between 4.3v & 4.8v & try it.
test}

OH my GaWD.

This thing goes to ELEVEN-teen!!!

(My results were 4.6v on EVERY flavor. At that point I had to stop. My brain was ready to burst with Delectability Overload)

 

[Zombieslug]

No joke.

Why didn't anyone TELL me to just order a couple Twists???

-What else do you NEED???!!!-

 

[Zombieslug]

Ah but when I say 100 additives, I'm referring to the flavors. I don't know what flavors you prefer, but if you have a juice with 100 flavors in it, I'd like to know what it is.

Most e-liquids have VG, PG, nicotine, and at most three flavors.

Thank you for clarifying that for my dumb ....

I'm not an alarmist... not even close. It's just that I've been curious about the "truthiness" of vendors in this marketplace in regard to the artificial flavorings.

I mean... what's to stop somebody from putting something toxic in the mixes floatin around by the gazillions out there?

Point is: I chose Halo BECAUSE of the fact that they seemed like the Real Deal. Quality control. Integrity. & I believe I made a Very Wise choice for a great company to get started with.

Right or wrong, all these itty-bitty B&M Vape Shops poppin outta the woodwork make me a bit nervous (images of Igor in the back room brewing up toxic concoctions with an evil grin on his face flash before my eyes.)

Sorry about being ignorant.

It's not Easy being me sometimes.

 

[Zombieslug]

& btw:
100 flavors simultaneously sounds pretty appealing to me, too!

 

[BigBen2k]

All the additives are well known industry standards, and pretty common. They're also approved as "food safe".

Here's one source:
Perfumers Apprentice - The Flavor Apprentice - World of Flavors

 

[SeniorBoy]

As I previously mentioned in an effort to garner brownie points and NOT get into trouble again LOL

Fortunately, we have a Halo forum to help each other which is focused on Halo Products, Halo centric discussions here, and thus appropriately views any doom and gloom and or off topic kind of posts as inappropriate to a greater or lesser degree. Got it Hope this helps my brownie points cause I need them bad and apologies to all for repeating what I said before. Humor me please.

ECF has plenty of forums with fantastic experts on a given topics. Like chemists, scientitsts, and mixologists that are not only highly regarded in what they say but have the props. I encourage YOU to start exploring dude and more than likely you will run into some of your current Halo Forum NBF in other forums. ECF is also a fantastic place to perform "due diligence" on any prospective vendor you plan to use.

Summary: I've done extensive research on Halo and some of my old posts have quotes from the owners. Myself and Mike also spent quality time face to face real world with Cinder and the Sales Manager in Vegas. Summary:

- Quality Professionally run operation
- Quality "components" in their juices with a track record dating back to 2009 which is like 100 years in the vaping world
- Disclosure is consistent and compliant with current "best practices" and sound business principals
- Building and enhancing a brand with a long term business plan
- Acutely aware of the current regulatory climate and prepared for the future
- Halo also has a growing presence in the B&M Universe which a lot of other vendors do not. See pic below for their B&M display.
- Not perfect but neither am I or YOU or any of us...LOL

 

[rbeckys8]

I love Midnight apple!!

 

[Zombieslug]

I love the Midnight Apple, too.

So far my favorites are Torque56 & Belgian/Kringle mix.
But Tribeca & Cafe Mocha are amazing too.

Now that I've got my G6 Manual battery, I absolutely LOVE smoking it with LR carts... Kringle's SOOOO good.
Definitely gonna get a 30ml bottle of it.

And my shopping cart's FULL of others
Southern Classic
Freedom Juice
Turkish
Prime15
SubZero
Twisted Java

I'm so happy with ALL of these products I've ordered.

The G6 Auto's just too airy for me, and the short pull isn't long enough either. LOVE the Manual battery (& that Emerald Green color is bada$$).

My lanyards came in yesterday, and I'm walkin around with 3 lanyards around my neck right now - VV w/Belgian-Kringle on one, 400mAh 24mg Torque56 one another, 400mAh 18mg Tribeca on the 3rd.
Couldn't be happier.
(unless I had More bottles of Halo's juice... which I'll be ordering over the weekend. CAN'T RUN OUT!!!)

It may sound ridiculous, but I feel 200% better already. Never cough, lungs're improving greatly already. & it just tastes so darned amazing.

Thank you Halo, & Halo Nation.
@ Boy - my bad if I've ruffled some feathers with earlier posts (?)... never my intention.
& everything U mentioned in the above post I was privy to... -which is why I invested Hundreds into their products!-
With ZERO regrets.

 

[SeniorBoy]

@Treats is VERTICAL with THREE FRIGGIN Lanyards no less. All around his neck at the same time. Love it

It wasn't you so much as it was me. I have this tendency dare I say obsession to tell it like it is and always need to remind myself more than anyone else exactly which Forum I'm in and the appropriate way to act.

LOL Get me outside Halo nation in another Forum and I won't hesitate to take the bloviating Fan Boys of this or that to task as Angi can testify to. However, Halo Nation is my fav and always will be because of the vibe and loving mentoring we all provide.

/ holding back the tears I remain @Boy

 

[Zombieslug]

So... a couple more stoooopid questions:

I've heard that I'd get the best results on the VV with the 3-3.2oHm coils (which I ordered & received a pack of with my Twist), but I've ALSO heard that they're just fine with the 2.2-2.4 coils... that the 3-3.2 coils are only needed for the Wider Range (low end Voltage).
Will I just be burning out my 2.2-2.4 coils quicker by using them with the VV? Or do the 3-3.2 make a significant flavor difference on higher Voltage?
Thoughts for the noob?

Also, when it comes time to clean a tank, do you just pour whatever Juice is in the tank back in the bottle before cleaning? (as it's always supposed to be kept half-full for optimal performance)

 

[Zombieslug]

@Treats is VERTICAL with THREE FRIGGIN Lanyards no less. All around his neck at the same time. Love it

Yeah, it's friggin HiLaRiOUS! But EVER-so-convenient right now, as i Just Can't Seem to Settle on only ONE flavor at a time! They're all preposterously delectable. (& the even FUNNIER thing is that I also have my Johnson Creek holster loaded with two extra tanks - Midnight Apple & Cafe Mocha. AND my G6 Manual with a Kringle LR cart in another pocket!)

Preposterous.
Ridonkulous.
But OH-so-Wondrous to have this absurd Arsenal!

It wasn't you so much as it was me. I have this tendency dare I say obsession to tell it like it is and always need to remind myself more than anyone else exactly which Forum I'm in and the appropriate way to act.

Matter of fact - I went back & -removed- some of the irrelevant/unnecessary foolishness.

My bad!

 

[BigBen2k]

The 3.2 coil is the "official" recommendation. It's meant to provide you with the full range of voltage available. Now, that aside...

No one uses the low range. The 2.2 *should* be just fine.

There are some things we just don't know about the VV, such as its limits. eGo type batteries are typically limited to 2.2 amps, so by doing a bit of math, you'd conclude that you could dial up your VV to the max, 4.8, and still (barely) hit the limit, but coils don't work quite that way: the resistance increases when power's applied to it.

Some have suggested that 4.1v is the max you can get, on a 2.2 (standard) coil, but I know no one that has tested this (it's not easy to test).

So my best advice is; if you have a VV, try it. Maybe you'll notice a difference above 4.1, maybe you won't, but it's still better than the nominal 3.7v from the regular battery.