UberGreen Noobular questions - Halo Triton/G6 startup coming in a few days!

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I discovered I like flavor over vapor and I'm not sensitive to PG, so 80/20 works for me. I do think 20% is probably as high in VG as a person should go with Mt Baker vapor coffee or chocolate flavors if using a halo mini tank, provided they're not sensitive to PG... even at 80/20 I had to soak my Halo mini tank for a few hours (and then let it dry, obviously) to get it to draw well again... they taste great, but they're definitely tough on atomizers! The pyrex vivi nova has held up much better with the coffee and chocolate flavors, but of course, on that one I can remove the atty to clean it - not so with the mini tanks, of course. The Belgian Cocoa and Cafe Mocha flavors don't seem to clog as much (I do wash everything out every night, fwiw.) So, ratio all depends on how important flavor vs vapor are important to you... nova_did_it's explanation is a great one.

And yes, mom and I are both doing better, thanks. And I got a great pulmonologist out of the deal, so as terrifying as it was, I'm just glad to be alive and successfully off the smokes. :)

Hope you enjoy your manual battery as much as I like mine!

As far as flavors - I'm really liking Halo's Belgian Cocoa, Cafe Mocha and Tribeca. Voodoo I tried this morning and it's not bad, but not my thing at the moment. I'm going to leave it to steep for a week or two and see if I change my mind. From Mt. Baker, I like their Cafe Coffee, Dark Chocolate, Blackberry (very good, but not an all day vape for me), Spearmint (really really good if you want something minty but don't like menthols), Sticky Bun (delicious), Peanut Butter Cup, Cola (their Cola is *amazing*), and I'm still waiting on Coconut Cream Pie in the mail. Bavarian Cream was a miss for me, but again, I'm putting it away to steep for a bit before I make a final call on it. It *does* work well for sweetening up other flavors, I've found, if that's your thing.

I'm trying to get away from tobaccoy type flavors at the moment since mom's still having the occasional half a smoke (so the scent is still on her clothes) and I've found that vaping Tribeca when she's home tends to make me want one, just a little bit. Once she's off the analogs for good, I'll try some RY4 or the like. Hope that helps, although if you're a fruit loving vapor, it probably doesn't. :) I love fruit, I just don't want to vape it all day... though the MBV Blackberry is very nice.
 

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The PG/VG ratios usually are associated with flavor and vapor.

PG will give you more flavor
VG will give you more vapor

The higher the ratio of PG will give you more flavor and the liquid will be thinner. The higher the VG ratio will give you a more dense vapor cloud and the liquid will be thicker. Many vendors will give you a 50/50 ratio between pg/vg which is to give a more balanced flavor/vapor, but there are a few vendors that will suggest a higher pg ratio such as MtBakerVapor where the default ratio is 80/20 or 80pg/20vg. The liquid is thinner but supposed to help with flavor. But the other nice thing with MtBakerVapor is that they allow you to choose your mixture.

I normally order 50/50 and adding some flavor shots to give the juice a little more kick. The other nice thing about being able to choose your mixture is that if you find yourself sensitive to PG you can order your flavors with straight vg. Which some vapors do. Just gives you greater control of what you want in your eliquids.

Halo however does not disclose there pg/vg ratio.

Hope this helps. :D

Yeah, it does. Thanks!

I'd seen that they didn't disclose that info at Halo, and I guess I was wondering about how different ratios work with their gear. I don't wanna screw up my tanks, or cartos, if I don't need to. :(

And, since I'll have no idea how I'll react to PG (do a LOT of people have problems with it, or is that pretty rare?) I'm hesitating on ordering 80/20 right off the bat.

But, since they're gonna have to steep for awhile, after they get here (after going through the postal system), I'd like to get some on the way here. It'd be great to have lots of flavors I like on hand in another week or two (LESS, ACTUALLY!), but it seems I'm going to learn a bit of patience. :unsure: Not something I'm really familiar with. :D
 

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As far as flavors - I'm really liking Halo's Belgian Cocoa, Cafe Mocha and Tribeca. Voodoo I tried this morning and it's not bad, but not my thing at the moment. I'm going to leave it to steep for a week or two and see if I change my mind. From Mt. Baker, I like their Cafe Coffee, Dark Chocolate, Blackberry (very good, but not an all day vape for me), Spearmint (really really good if you want something minty but don't like menthols), Sticky Bun (delicious), Peanut Butter Cup, Cola (their Cola is *amazing*), and I'm still waiting on Coconut Cream Pie in the mail. Bavarian Cream was a miss for me, but again, I'm putting it away to steep for a bit before I make a final call on it. It *does* work well for sweetening up other flavors, I've found, if that's your thing.

I'm trying to get away from tobaccoy type flavors at the moment since mom's still having the occasional half a smoke (so the scent is still on her clothes) and I've found that vaping Tribeca when she's home tends to make me want one, just a little bit. Once she's off the analogs for good, I'll try some RY4 or the like. Hope that helps, although if you're a fruit loving vapor, it probably doesn't. :) I love fruit, I just don't want to vape it all day... though the MBV Blackberry is very nice.

Awesome, thanks. Sounds like some good suggestions! I suspect I might end up messing with the whole sweetening up tobacco flavors. Just a guess at this point, of course.

Man, the anticipation is KILLING me.

(not to mention a strange e-mail I got from Halo today, saying my initial order shipped <again?> today.) Hopefully this means they changed one of my 400mAh's to a 650, as I requested right before they told me it shipped on Thursday at noon. Looks like my Auto G6 will be here Thursday, and the Triton on Thursday or Friday. They'll probably be sending the manual G6 tomorrow, so hopefully, by the end of the weekend cigarettes will smell & taste nasty & inferior to me! :p
 

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Awesome, thanks. Sounds like some good suggestions! I suspect I might end up messing with the whole sweetening up tobacco flavors. Just a guess at this point, of course.

Just so you know, MBV also sells a "sweetener" for that purpose (it's out of stock at the moment, or I would have grabbed some. Here's the direct link if you want to check it out.) It's got good reviews, and everyone says a few drops per bottle goes a long way. The Bavarian Cream is working well for me in that regard, but I thought I'd let you know about other options.

(not to mention a strange e-mail I got from Halo today, saying my initial order shipped <again?> today.) Hopefully this means they changed one of my 400mAh's to a 650, as I requested right before they told me it shipped on Thursday at noon.

I had really weird tracking from them too, and supposedly two different packages with different tracking numbers. Only one showed up, which was fine since everything in my order fit in one box. Apparently, weird/inaccurate/slow tracking is par for the course when ordering from Halo - there are lots of threads on it. Not sure whether the actual problem is Halo or the post office they're shipping out of... the tracking improved once the package got out of New England. Their gear is definitely worth the (excruciating) wait, though.
 
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Just another quick thought about liquids. The thicker the liquid, they are more likely to clog your atomizers. The thinner the liquid, if there is not enough wicking material it could cause the tanks to leak. These are only possibilities mind you not rules. :D Also the really dark liquids have a tendency to dirty up your coils quickly which will require more frequent cleanings of your tanks.

I really like the 50/50 mixes, but everyone seems to have their preferences. You should be able to use any liquid from any vendor in your Halo tanks, (tank crackers being the exception with plastic tanks).
 

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Just so you know, MBV also sells a "sweetener" for that purpose (it's out of stock at the moment, or I would have grabbed some. Here's the direct link if you want to check it out.) It's got good reviews, and everyone says a few drops per bottle goes a long way. The Bavarian Cream is working well for me in that regard, but I thought I'd let you know about other options.

Great. I haven't really looked around their site much yet (just a few minutes), & it seems like a lot to check out. I saw their list of "tank-crackers", so at least I'll know which ones to avoid or put in cartos (thing is, I'm liking the sound of a lot of those flavors right off the bat!)



I had really weird tracking from them too, and supposedly two different packages with different tracking numbers. Only one showed up, which was fine since everything in my order fit in one box. Apparently, weird/inaccurate/slow tracking is par for the course when ordering from Halo - there are lots of threads on it. Not sure whether the actual problem is Halo or the post office they're shipping out of... the tracking improved once the package got out of New England. Their gear is definitely worth the (excruciating) wait, though.

Yeah, it's funny... I had seen a lot of posts blaming the Postal Service, in general, for week-long delays or more. But I am an Internet shopping junkie, so I am VERY familiar with shipping times for "First Class" & "Priority" packages.

Truth is, 1st Class usually arrives in about 2 business days (Postal business - includes Saturdays, as we all know)... 3 max... {once in a Postal worker's hands}
While "Priority" can often take up to 4 or 5 (Postal) days. From anywhere in the country.

A lot of it has to do with when it's actually "shipped" from seller. They can SAY it's shipped, but not have it in the hands of a Postal worker for a day or two.

Origin scans show when the item arrives (& is processed) at the Post Office where it is received, & Generally show up Pretty Darn Quick on USPS.com. Regardless of how long it takes to come up on USPS.com, it'll show what Time it gets scanned in. So, maybe they've got a bad branch there in their town... or MAYBE they're notifying as "shipped" a hair early. I'm not criticizing. Not complaining, at all.

For the record, when I made my second order from Halo on Thursday at 2pm (small G6 order), I chose "First Class"... not cause it was 2 bucks cheaper. Just to test shipping time & see if my prior experience with USPS would be similar. Halo said "shipped" at 2:55pm (Thurs), but first origin scan wasn't til around 2am on Sunday... strange... but at least it left Jersey the same day, & is supposed to be here Thursday. I bet it'll show up on Wednesday though. Who knows? Who cares? I care! (I HATE the fact that I've gotta run up to 7-11 RIGHT NOW and grab some analogs.

Not cause Halo's done anything wrong.

Just cause I didn't order my stuff SOONER. :p

(My oldest sister has been a part-time Postal worker in Cali for a couple years too, so I've heard how often things don't get scanned, or scanned properly.)
 

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Just another quick thought about liquids. The thicker the liquid, they are more likely to clog your atomizers. The thinner the liquid, if there is not enough wicking material it could cause the tanks to leak. These are only possibilities mind you not rules. :D Also the really dark liquids have a tendency to dirty up your coils quickly which will require more frequent cleanings of your tanks.

So, as far as tank cleaning & carto cleaning goes... should I just use water? Seen lots of posts about using vodka... for quick dry... or even Walgreens generic denture cleaner. Thoughts? Suggestions?:blink:
 

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Re: the Post Office, yeah, I have a strong feeling that what happened was the local PO didn't scan it properly and/or they're not hooked into the online system properly... although my wait was exacerbated by the fact that Halo ran out of the boxes the kits came in, so I had the problem of the label being printed but the package not actually being at the post office... very familiar with that dilemma thanks to trading European board games (aka good board games where you actually have strategic decisions to make :D). I don't mentally count a package shipped till I can see it moving, for that reason... what happened with the Halo shipment is that *nothing* updated till it hit Virginia, at which point I could see the whole lot. Have had that happen before, albeit rarely. The two different tracking numbers was odd too. As I said, willing to forgive the wait due to the quality of the products (MBV had juices literally in my hands in 48 hours, also Priority, coming from WA to GA... Halo is NJ to GA and took a week). That said, I'll also definitely be *allowing* a week for any future Halo orders... whether it's the local PO or Halo or a combination, they take a while.

I use hot water to clean my tanks. We don't keep vodka around; lousy family history plus I'm not medically allowed alcohol anyway. I might try 91% Isopropyl Alcohol on a tank if it gets *really* clogged up. There are long furious debates about how safe that is, but I figure a) I'm not stupid enough to vape out of it until it's completely dry, i.e. I can't smell a whiff of it anymore, and b) I rub the stuff on my skin three times a week and I've stuck a needle into myself right over the same spot before it was totally dry, and that hasn't killed me yet... so surely vaping out of a *completely dry* tank that's been cleaned with it, dried thoroughly, rinsed very well and re-dried can't be too harmful.

I don't think I'd try cleaning a carto with IPA, even 91%... it'd be too hard to tell if the polyfill was dry all the way through. But IPA on a tank once in a while, provided it's 91% and you don't vape out of it if you can smell the alcohol, I don't think that's an issue. My opinion only, others *will* disagree!

Hot water works fine for me so far though. I've also boiled a couple cartos that were a little gunked up, in an effort to avoid just turning them into atomizers, and that worked too. You have to boil them a few times though... basically, boil, dump the water out, and boil again, repeating till you can't smell the juice in the water vapor that's rising from the pot. And then dry thoroughly, obviously... 24 hours works, 48 is better.

Oh, and I forgot to add... hang in there! We were half out of our minds waiting last week, so I know *exactly* how you feel.
 
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Hot water works fine for me so far though. I've also boiled a couple cartos that were a little gunked up, in an effort to avoid just turning them into atomizers, and that worked too. You have to boil them a few times though... basically, boil, dump the water out, and boil again, repeating till you can't smell the juice in the water vapor that's rising from the pot. And then dry thoroughly, obviously... 24 hours works, 48 is better.

Oh, and I forgot to add... hang in there! We were half out of our minds waiting last week, so I know *exactly* how you feel.

Really appreciate all yer advice:D

I'm hangin! Only 1 or 2 more days til SOME of it gets here. Just found a cool little bag for thrownin tanks, and the little carto plastic boxes in. Even holds a small spray bottle of Biotine in there (which I've never needed, but sounds like a good idea, to help out with "Vaper's Tongue", if need be.:pervy:) - and the little zip-bag has a removable wrist-band/metal clip-tpye-thing you see on the back of a necklace, only larger (if that makes any sense)... plus it has 2 small velcro straps, so I have it strapped on my crazy bike for the long rides. I found it on the cane rack at CVS - back by their pharmacy - dirt cheap.

PLUS, I've got a couple bad-... leather cases coming from Johnson Creek.

One for the Triton (holds 2 snugly, WITH clearos attached, tips down :ohmy:):
VEA case for Tritons front view.jpgVEA case for Tritons rear view.jpgVEA case for Tritons inside view.jpg

& a mini version (should hold 2 G6's! :ohmy:)
Mini leather case for 2  G6's front view.jpgMini leather case for 2  G6's rear view.jpg

not too much $$$, really, and pretty versatile AND stylin :smokie:

(Think I saw some pictures of the bigger one posted by SeniorBoy, or Stevegmu loaded with a sleek pair of Tritons.:2cool:)
 
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Just a few comments.

First, SLOW DOWN! :D.

Take your time. You've got more than enough equipment on the way, and it seems you'll have plenty of juice to last you a while. Take some time to learn about your equipment and to play around with it. Fun stuff!

If you hadn't already ordered, I was going to suggest that you order AiV's Little Bit of Everything sampler. Too late. I'm working on one now, and I'm finding out that I like some juices that I thought I wouldn't, and vice versa. None of the 16 juices on their main page should crack or melt a tank. You've seen the FAQ.

As others have noted, there's no need to buy an ego set-up now, just use the cartos when you have to. There's plenty of time to buy other stuff later if you really feel the need.

Email the vendor before you place an order for juices, list the juices you're thinking of ordering, and ask them if any of them will crack or melt polycarbonate tanks, then go from there after they respond. If they don't respond, move on to another vendor. That's how I feel about it anyway.

Here's a lanyard that's advertised to work with a Triton:

Electronic Cigarette Lanyard / Necklace | Deep South Vapors

I don't have a Triton, so I don't know how good it is, but it does make sense to me that when you're riding, you want to be able to instantly drop the Triton when you need both hands, without worrying about it getting damaged.

Btw, I like Halo's Shamrock, so if you like Andes Mints.... On the other hand, I like Longhorn, which is not one of the highest rated juices. It reminds me of some boutique cigarettes I bought a few times many years ago - almost like pipe tobacco.

Finally: Cool bike!
 

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Just a few comments.

First, SLOW DOWN! :D.

Take your time. You've got more than enough equipment on the way, and it seems you'll have plenty of juice to last you a while.


I know. I have completely lost my marbles.


If you hadn't already ordered, I was going to suggest that you order AiV's Little Bit of Everything sampler. Too late.

Yeah, but honestly, it was the same reason I didn't order any of Halo's predetermined sample-packs: why pay for stuff i KNOW I'll never use. Getting TEN different 3ml bottles {30ml} of flavors that appeal to ME (for less than 22 bucks) was FAR more appealing than having all those Tea flavors and such. I know my taste buds will change, but Tea's never been my thing.

As far as "Too late"? Yeah. I didn't wanna miss out & have to wait til NEXT Tuesday to order (then wait another 10+ days for delivery).

Patience has never been my strongest personality trait.

And my Impulse Control is next to Nil. :blink:

As others have noted, there's no need to buy an ego set-up now, just use the cartos when you have to. There's plenty of time to buy other stuff later if you really feel the need.

Yeah, I decided against doing that ego Twist/Pyrex tank setup, at least for now. (although I DID order the Halo Twist:rolleyes:)
Has anyone seen my marbles?:blink: Guess I'll keep looking!:D

Email the vendor before you place an order for juices, list the juices you're thinking of ordering, and ask them if any of them will crack or melt polycarbonate tanks, then go from there after they respond. If they don't respond, move on to another vendor. That's how I feel about it anyway.

Good advice.

Here's a lanyard that's advertised to work with a Triton:

Electronic Cigarette Lanyard / Necklace | Deep South Vapors

Ordered a couple from Miami last night. They'll probably be here tomorrow. Nice & cheap.

I don't have a Triton, so I don't know how good it is, but it does make sense to me that when you're riding, you want to be able to instantly drop the Triton when you need both hands, without worrying about it getting damaged.
Definitely. Lanyard's the way to go. I was just wiggin out initially - thinking it'd end up screwing up my batteries and stuff by sloshin around, and leaking. Not so worried anymore. I was definitely overthinking things... but I'm GLAD I did.

While I realize that I've spent WAY too much already on this whole deal... I think I'm going to Transition NICE & Smooth.
I'm gonna have enough Juice to last me QUITE awhile, and I suspect the only thing I MIGHT regret, out of all my purchases is getting so much Juice at 18mg.

Just because it might make chaining (chain-vaping?) less desirable in higher Nic combinations down the road a few weeks.
Just a guess, but I figured I couldn't really go wrong at 18mg.

Btw, I like Halo's Shamrock, so if you like Andes Mints.... On the other hand, I like Longhorn, which is not one of the highest rated juices. It reminds me of some boutique cigarettes I bought a few times many years ago - almost like pipe tobacco.
Haven't heard a SINGLE bad thing about Shamrock. But I've got a 30ml of Belgian Cocoa, and a 7ml of Kringle's Curse with the thought that I'd be mixing em. (Many people described doing this to achieve Andes Mint/Peppermint Patty flavor, which sounded awesome to me! Chocoholic.:D)

Finally: Cool bike!

THANKS. That picture's from a few months back (Phase 3?). It's changed a lot (Phase 4... no pics yet). Looking forward to Phase 5! (paint & airbrush):D
 
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