Why do I have such a bad headache?

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tarynwithat

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I have been vaping for about 5 weeks. For the last 3 of those weeeks I have had a terrible, constant headache. I have tried changing juice, eliminating extra menthol, eliminating flavor...I even thought it was a sinus headache for a while and have eliminated that possibility. I understand that vaping can be dehydrating, so I am trying to drink a lot of water, but still have a headache. Will lowering the nicotine help? Will VG instead of PG help? I am at my wit's end, I cannot live with a constant headache like this. Help!
 
What nicotine density are you vaping? For some silly reason I thought 'heck, I love nicotine, lets get the HIGH nic version' when I bought my first juices. I not only got a headache the night my 510 arrived, I started getting dizzy and wheezing... total nicotine overdose. Thankfully I ordered some zero nic liquids too (my wife likes to vape with me, but doesn't like the nicotine), so I am mixing them 1/3 high nic liquid and 2/3 zero nic. My inclination is that you are getting too much nicotine. I'm putting in an order today for some 12mg nic liquids. It didn't help that I vape MORE than I used to smoke! :)
 

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Taryn, I kind of went through that as well. It probably didn't happen right away because you weren't vaping as deeply since you were still in smoking "mode". Now that your throat has adjusted you're actually vaping and getting all the nic from the vape. I agree with the other posters - lower the nic. A lot of sites sell straight Nic - that way you can buy 0 nic flavored juices and just add in the amount of Nic that you want to each juice. Since I am still new to this - that's what I'm doing rather than spend so much on replacing flavored juices that I purchased while I was still vaping higher nic levels. Best of luck to you. :)

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As to your VG vs PG question, I have heard some rare occasions of people who are allergic or sensitive to one or the other. I doubt that is your issue, but it may be worth trying both (you may at least prefer one over the other... I prefer VG for the thicker vapor). I would bet you a bottle of waffles that its the nic level though. (And yes, I vape waffles-flavored juice, and its amazing!)
 

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Too high density nicotine can be a culprit for headaches, but in most cases of OD you also have very queasy stomach, shakiness, ringing ears, dizziness, blurred vision, etc. May be you're an exception, or have minor symptoms you haven't really paid attention to.
Headaches can also occur from high blood pressure, I would check that, and dehydration, but also another thing to remember is that the "half-life" of nicotine in the system is about an hour, residual effects can take a few days for the body to excrete the metabolised nic.
So by temporarily stopping vaping, you should feel relief within an hour, if your headache doesn't diminish I would suspect other sources, rather than too high nic.
It can't hurt to "cut" your juice by 1/3, that would give you about a 12mg/ml level nic, considered a moderate amount. But 18mg juice is usually considered high, 24mg or above would be classed as extra high. I don't know how heavily you smoked, that would play a role in how high a density you need to sustain with vaping. Are you puffing too hard?? If your cheeks or jaws are painful, that could be the reason.
You may have a completely un-related symptom going on. Persistant headache is usually a signal to investigate further.
PG sensitivity could be involved, but those symptoms usually present themselves in the form of sore throat, dry hacking coughing, thickened mucous, wheezing, dry mouth, or yes headaches, even rashes or blistered skin and mouth sores. By doing the "cut" with VG, you may feel relief if it's too high nic or PG sensitivity. This can be a kind of be trial and error....do drink enough water!! Juice Flavorings can expose you to substances you may be sensitive to, as well.
I also can't use PG, it makes me feel like I'm choking, lung pain, burning sore throat ~ VG gives me no problem at all, as long as I stay hydrated. Proper hydration? When your urine is nearly colorless is a good way to measure, unless you're taking some meds or diet supplements which may color it.

But another good reason for headaches can be just withdrawal from smoking. There's a whole plethera of signs that your body is cleansing itself, everything from ........ to constipation, shakiness, moodiness, depression, lethargy, extreme fatigue, headaches, high energy, lowered blood pressure, extreme hunger, quick temper, flighty stomach, and on and on. Again, I don't know your level of smoking.
Diet can help, be sure to include lots of fresh veggies, antioxident-high liquids, fruit juice and whole, try to stay away from sugars and carbs. And LOTS of water!! Aged Cheeses can help with withdrawal symptoms as well, any foods high in MAOI's. Snus is the answer for some, as well.
These symptoms can persist for 1 to 12 weeks or more, on a diminishing scale, but they can be so unpleasant, debilitating even. Most people who go to vaping have reported very slight or moderate withdrawal, but every person is different.

Keep us posted~! Best of luck. Sorry, I get wordy!! But there's no end to data in this place...
 
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I smoked a pack and a half a day. Started vaping with med. nic juice, menthol added. No headaches for the first three weeks or so. Right around the time I added flavor is when the headaches started. Then last week a very sore throat, I thought I had caught strep and went to the doctor and got antibiotics, plus a full blood work up. Nothing there. Thorat is still a little sore, and the headaches are worse. I am takin a lot of advil but it isn't helping much.

What could be in flavors that could cause this? I am trying straight juice, no flavor right now, but I know it will take a while to get out of my system.

I am under so much stress right now I can't just quit, and I refuse to start smoking again even if I could tolerate it. (I tried to smoke an analog about 1 week in, and had to put it out after the first puff.)

I can go to the Vape store this evening and get lower nic juice, hopefully VG if they have it. I don't know what else to do.
 

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You know, tarynwithat, maybe give a try to going to 24mg/ml juice, that should take care of the headache, then I would also go to Vegetable Glycerin instead of Propylene Glycol as you base juice. The VG is not quite so drying, I also have to use that. Your sore throat should go away right away, but do step up on water. Inflamation in your mucosa (linings of the mouth nose and bronchi) may take a couple days to stop being a problem, but PG has a way of irritating that I don't see with VG.
The nic can be reduced later on a lot easier than going through this hell. It may just be you're doing the withdrawal and you just aren't getting what you need. As a coffee drinker if I go without coffee for a day, I end up with a horrific headache.
I started on 16mg juice but went to 24mg/ml very quickly, I was just too jittery and panicy on less to not do that. I was happy as a clam with 24mg, the rest of it I could handle very well, the 'false' hunger, the excessive energy. I was still withdrawing, but it wasn't so extreme I couldn't just work through. I was a 2-3 PAD smoker, but everyone is different. After things settle down, you can expand your comfort zone and cut back, without further withdrawal, I cut mine in half!! to 12mg. I can go to 6mg, but my brain function falls, I'm a bit fuzzy in my memory recall. I have ADD.
And I absolutely can relate to smoking that cigarette, it almost makes you sick!! The smell alone is awful.
 
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There was a post about a week or so ago that stated the guy was getting headaches from the poly filler material.

I myself have gotten mild headaches from I believe the blue foam briefly after its first use - I discovered that if I wash it again in hot water and dry it out on a paper towel just before I stuff it in the cart I dont get the headache. This even though I washed it thoroughly when I first got the blue foam.

Could be coincidence, but I've done washed and again non washed foam as a control and the mild short-duration (half hour) headache came back.
 

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Stopping smoking can change the way your liver removes other medications from your body, even if you are vaping. If you take any medications or use caffeine, those drugs can start creating side effects that they didn't before. Caffeine levels in particular can misbehave rather badly when you quit smoking.

If you are taking any high blood pressure medication, get a check up. Your dose may need to be adjusted. If you think you are dehydrated, go get an electrolyte test :)
 

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I had an allergic reaction to high amounts of PG. Headaches, itchy skin, slight chest pain. All of the juices I was vaping were about 70 percent or higher in PG. I diminished it to 50 percent and everything went away. Also, your nicotine could be way too high. Cut is down. Drink tons of water. You could also be a rare person that can't vape certain flavors. A friend of mine can't vape cinnamon or anything containing honey. She gets migranes from both. Cinnamon can also cause sores in your mouth and throat.
 
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