Why Do People Buy Cheap Junk???

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Rancor0681

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I can see picking up something cheap to see if ecigs will work for you, but once you know they will...

Why keep buying cheap ... junk???

You could afford to smoke, but you can't afford a quality mod?

I smoked 3 packs of cigarettes a day, so my ProVari paid for itself in 10 days.

COME ON PEOPLE!!!

Take a crowbar and pry a little bit of money out of your wallet and get yourself a decent mod.

And another thing...

Quit complaining about the cheap ... thing you just bought that leaks, or breaks, or gives you dry hits.

YOU GET WHAT YOU PAY FOR!!!

Just ranting... I feel better now...:)

Why don't you quit being so judgmental people buy what people can afford/justify. Not everyone could afford to smoke hence went to ecigs to kick the habit / expense. They don't deserve to come onto a SUPPORT forum just to have you insult and put them down because they can't put up the money you could on your mod.

People like you upset me to no end.
You don't have a clue about
people's situations
people's budgets

You just assume hey I can afford/like an expensive mod so everyone else should be able to as well.

My MVP 2.0 works just fine for me and I have no interest in the ProVari and folks such as yourself just make me not want it that much more.

You keep your status symbol
 
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Oh, please, God, no. Not another good topic turned into a Provari War.

:facepalm::facepalm::facepalm:

There just aren't enough facepalms in the world to describe how completely uninteresting this endless argument is to the rest of us.

This wasn't a good topic to begin with! It was an unneeded judgmental rant that never needed to happen.
 
People buy what they can afford. Just because I can afford to lay down $125 on a Russian and $200 on a Nemesis, doesn't mean everyone else has that kind of disposable income. Remember, we're still living in a tough economy where every dollar has a purpose. and when your dollars, pounds, euros, etc are named "Food, Mortgage, Car Payment, Diapers, Heat and Lights, with only a few dollars that haven't been named, it's tough to rename them to "Vaping."

Do you think that just because you can afford to own and drive a Rolls-Royce that everyone else can? What would happen if you stood in first class and yelled at everyone in coach complaining about their lack of leg room and told the to "Pry some money out of your wallets and buy a first class ticket." why do you think there are only about 20 first class seats on a plane and 350 coach seats in the first place? Or hey, you could go to the soup kitchen and yell at anyone who complains about the food and tell them to go buy groceries at Whole Foods where you shop.
 
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Cheap crap or state-of-the-art, I just wish toilets worked longer than 6 months without me having to stick my hand in them.

Wasted a lot on cheap crap, but also was able to mod some cheap crap to work well. Had some expensive crap crap out quickly, and had some that was worth the money. All this crap is a crap shoot.
 

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Personally, I love my Vamo V5 and Protank Mini 2 or my Hypertank. They work for me. It doesn't matter that my Vamo was only 30$. Would I like to get a Provari or High end mod? Probably not. Why? Because I don't have 200$+ to drop on something that's supposed to save me money.

There is absolutely nothing wrong with someone buying "low end" items. You pay what you want to pay and you either love what you buy or don't. The whole point of vaping is to be healthier (and possibly save some cash) because you're not smoking anymore.

I would spend 6.30$ on a pack. I would smoke a pack a day. That's roughly 190$ a month on cigarettes. I've been vaping for just over a month, and I've already spend around 350$. That wasn't money spent on my devices. That was batteries, chargers, tanks, juice, and other accessories. How could I justify spending ANOTHER 250$ in one month of vaping just to have a Provari. I can't.

This thread is not what this forum is about.
 

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I would love to buy a Provari. And, I may someday. In the meantime, I get the best quality I can. For example, I only buy eGos from Joyetech and only buy AW or Efest batteries (and only from a reliable vendor).

However, I no longer have enough money to smoke. And, even when I did smoke, I often went without food in order to buy cigarettes. I don't intend to do that anymore. I'm too old, and my health will no longer allow it.
 

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WHen I started I didn't know if it would work for me. I started with probably a middle entry level system. A genuine Joyetech Ego-C system. The batterys from that system are still going strong 10 months into vaping. No complaints all from me about the value for my money from that purchase.

The Ego-C tanks system that came with it just never worked for me. Which led to the CE5 Redux and eventually the Protank 1. GUess what at 9 months old all but one of those CE5 Reduxes are still going strong.

At that point I decided to recoil the CE5s and the Protank. So I bought a Vamo V2 both to have something to read the ohms and to have a replaceable battery device. Ya know what. My Vamo is still going strong.

Recoiling led to an Octopus RDA which led to a pair of IGO-Ls which led to 2 AGA-T2s. All still performing marvelously.

Dripping on the Octopus and Igo-Ls led to me realizing my happy place really was dripping and a Mech. Hence I finally made my high quality purchase. A pair of REO Grands + 2 RM2s. These are my 90% of the dime vape setup now. I do still use the EGOs and clearos or EGOs and carto tanks when out and about but the REOs are my real love.

Have I bought other crappy things along the way? Yep but many times it is more to test the waters on something not as a serious long term thing. For example I picked up a clone of the Russian 91% just to see if I liked it well enough to get a real one. Yep it works for me a real one is on my hitlist.

Some of us have to take the journey. I learned one hell of alot of important stuff along the way. There are many what I would call quality devices out there. Provari is not the only choice for everyone, neither is REO.

People also have different motivations in vaping. I plan to vape the rest of my life. For me the investment in a quality device makes sense. I know of other people who plan to quit vaping fairly soon as they just want to be off all of it. I can see them saying why spend big bucks on something I am going to be done with in a few months.
 

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Pennywise and poundfoolish ?

Not necessarily.

Some feel like there is a new sort of religion/ideology in the making:

WOTUC

Worshippers of the Ultimate Cloud.

The very moment, one of their disciples attains this goal, i.e. a cloud large enough and dense enough to engulf the universe , a state of eternal bliss will be spread throughout the universe, cuz noone can find the exit anymore cuz it's so darn foggy in here ( Beam us up Scotty! Uh, from where exactly, Capn ? ) , which is o.k. for everyone, cuz they can't see the stupid neighbour anymore either - which is why there will be everlasting peace and bliss ;).

Of course, in their quest for that goal, no effort will be spared. For the acolytes of this new cult, the Gateway Arch located in St. Louis resembles an ultra-low-res-halfturn coil built for hitherto unimaginable wattages: So do not be surprised if you see folks discreetly taking ohmmeter readings while pretending to visit the arch only for its spectacular view... Become susicious when some claim they're Cristo's helper and have come to wrap the Arch in huge swathes of cotton...

[Reading the previous paragraph, maybe should lay off that funny liquid for a while ;) ]

It's up to the individual vapers/vaperesses how much to spend/invest. All tpyes are present :
- spending way more on vaping hardware and software than they ever did on tobacco products : WOTUC
- breaking about even
- saving money and using it for something else.

Read posts here of folks that saved enough with vaping that they could afford a decent vacation.
Read posts here of folks that calculated their break-even point to somewhen a week before doomsday - give or take a week...
Read posts here of just about anything in between.

Yes, we can. (buy more,bigger,better)
But we don't have to. ( With cigs, we often had to )

Some by choice some by necessity. Vaping on a tight budget to give your wallet and bank account a breather, or splurging on some hand-crafted gold plated mod, with platinum filament wicks - the liberty to do so or leave it be is ours now.

Exactly the reason why BT and BP don't love us no more - we've jumped their hooks. And are free to do with the $$$ retained by us as WE see fit :) .... WOTUC or DOFIWOP ... doan matter no mo' :))
 

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I formally appologize if my earlier contribution to this thread was deemed inappropriate or offensive by anyone. Bottom line is whatever works for you and keeps you off the smokes is good enough.

I said what I said because a lot of Provari owners get flack for saying why we love them. Is that flack deserved? Probably sometimes it is, sometimes not. There's a lot of Provari and Provari owner hatred on this forum, as there are a few Provari owners who often say the wrong thing.

I purchased my Provari's when I had a nice stable income and I could afford them. I recently lost my job at age 59 and am now working a near minimum wage job which is barely enough to make ends meet. So I fully understand that not everyone can afford what others may consider to be the best products available.

What's really important to me is that I'm not spending money on cigarettes any more.
 
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I can see picking up something cheap to see if ecigs will work for you, but once you know they will...

Why keep buying cheap ... junk???

You could afford to smoke, but you can't afford a quality mod?

I smoked 3 packs of cigarettes a day, so my ProVari paid for itself in 10 days.

COME ON PEOPLE!!!

Take a crowbar and pry a little bit of money out of your wallet and get yourself a decent mod.

And another thing...

Quit complaining about the cheap ... thing you just bought that leaks, or breaks, or gives you dry hits.

YOU GET WHAT YOU PAY FOR!!!

Just ranting... I feel better now...:)

I gave up trying to tell other people how to spend their money years ago. Some are just not going to listen, and some people can't afford to spend more.

It is true, it's all relative. How much do you spend on cable every month? I buy the equivalent of a DNA30 every month - and I'd use the DNA more!

I have a cousin in NY who will not buy ecigs, she's convinced it's more expensive than smoking (She's in NY...$9 a pack...). I said "You spend over 10k a year on hockey tickets and memorabilia, and $100 a week on lottery tickets!" Nope. She's convinced. I know her and how stubborn she is. I just don't bring it up anymore. She's rationalizing it by saying "I gotta quit smoking" a lot. Yeah, I did that too. :)
 

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A good friend of mine had an MVP last a whopping 3 months before it just stopped working.
I "get that feeling of value" every day after over a year and a half of use. I have not had a cheap mod last me over 8 months to this point....

I keep 3 or 4 pvs loaded and working constantly. One Vamo and 2 or 3 Sigelei Zmaxes. Been using 3 of these more than a year without the 1st problem. Bought a Provari and couldn't tell any difference in the vape quality and didn't see any value whatsoever. It laid in a drawer for 6 months so I sold it.
 
i disagree with you. i do not have much money left after bill's, i started with the small cheap stuff and was having so many issues with it i almost went back to smoking. i got some things payed off and got me a provari then learned how to diy in making my own juice then learned rebuilding coils. nothing breaks down now. i now enjoy vaping. i don't buy the next new gadget that comes out. i get what works and last so i dont have to spend money that i dont have. i hate the status symbol, i never buy things because others buy them. i like to get thing that last and i can depend on for a long time.
Why don't you quit being so judgmental people buy what people can afford/justify. Not everyone could afford to smoke hence went to ecigs to kick the habit / expense. They don't deserve to come onto a SUPPORT forum just to have you insult and put them down because they can't put up the money you could on your mod.

People like you upset me to no end.
You don't have a clue about
people's situations
people's budgets

You just assume hey I can afford/like an expensive mod so everyone else should be able to as well.

My MVP 2.0 works just fine for me and I have no interest in the ProVari and folks such as yourself just make me not want it that much more.

You keep your status symbol
 

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This thread is not what this forum is about.

Stick around. You'll find that this is discussed/blasted daily.:)

Quality mechanical clone- outlasts your provari. $20-50 vs $200+.. gets wet, dry it off. Gets ran over, check contacts. EMP goes off.. don't worry about it.
 

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Stick around. You'll find that this is discussed/blasted daily.:)

Quality mechanical clone- outlasts your provari. $20-50 vs $200+.. gets wet, dry it off. Gets ran over, check contacts. EMP goes off.. don't worry about it.

Lol fair enough. And trust me, I've seen all the Provari arguements on here in several sub-forums. I was talking about the "you're stupid if you don't buy high priced supermods" attitude I got from the OP.

Personally, I couldn't care less about what other people buy and use. Like I said, I love my Vamo V5. And I'm going to use it until it breaks. But that's just me :laugh:
 

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Personally, I love my Vamo V5 and Protank Mini 2 or my Hypertank. They work for me. It doesn't matter that my Vamo was only 30$. Would I like to get a Provari or High end mod? Probably not. Why? Because I don't have 200$+ to drop on something that's supposed to save me money.

There is absolutely nothing wrong with someone buying "low end" items. You pay what you want to pay and you either love what you buy or don't. The whole point of vaping is to be healthier (and possibly save some cash) because you're not smoking anymore.

I would spend 6.30$ on a pack. I would smoke a pack a day. That's roughly 190$ a month on cigarettes. I've been vaping for just over a month, and I've already spend around 350$. That wasn't money spent on my devices. That was batteries, chargers, tanks, juice, and other accessories. How could I justify spending ANOTHER 250$ in one month of vaping just to have a Provari. I can't.

This thread is not what this forum is about.

You can justify it by not getting lung cancer. That's how I justify it.
 

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To which cheap junk are you referring? People spend what they can afford to. Since it is THEIR money then they get to choose what the think will work. I have nothing against a Provari, but I would never buy one. I have 2 Mechs, 4 vision spinners, 1 Twist, one ego-t, and an itaste vv 3.0. I still didn't spend as much as you have spent on that provari and I never have to worry about not having a PV available.

Exactly .. OP why don't you be more specific, because I have purchased many a thing for "cheap", but I don't own any junk though ;-) And you may be surprised to hear this, but everyone doesn't want a Provari. I personally think the Provari is an unattractive looking device, in spite of it's glowing reputation, and if I wanted one, I could have one 20x over by now ... not interested.

I honestly feel like your OP was motivated by a sense of elitism (founded in flammable goods no less), as I find it hard to believe that the common use of "cheap" products by ecig users is what created enough frustration within you, or any fully developed, mature adult, who would then feel the need to "rant" about it.... and if it truly did, you might want to consider seeing somebody about that ... real talk.

This thread topic is like Saran wrap .. transparent, and therefore completely see through. Enjoy your Provari ...
 
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