Why does Green Day suck so much?

[firefox335]

At one time, long, long ago, Green day was my favorite band. I admit, when Nimrod came out, I stopped listening to them. I couldn't stand the direction the band was going. I mean they had started to play elevator music for God's sake.



Take this video for instance. They don't even sound like Green Day anymore. Yes, yes I know that all bands evolve (insert me vomiting here), but you're musical evolution should not make you sound completely lame. They sound like every other lame, slick rock band out there.

And now a video from their heyday before they started to suck...



Bands should learn to bow out gracefully when they're no longer relevant. In Green Day's case, they've been living on borrowed time for the past 14 years.

 

[frequentj]

I have to disagree. Green Day is one of my favorite bands. Yes, their sound has evolved over the years, but they are still great. Radio does play some of their songs so much that I can see why some people get tired of certain songs (Wake Me Up When September Ends comes to mind, but he wrote that song as a tribute to his father who died).

 

[VAPOINSANO]

I have to disagree. Green Day is one of my favorite bands. Yes, their sound has evolved over the years, but they are still great. Radio does play some of their songs so much that I can see why some people get tired of certain songs (Wake Me Up When September Ends comes to mind, but he wrote that song as a tribute to his father who died).

plus ....my ol'lady luvs em !
(drummer's entertaining as all get-up too... lol)

reporter to angus young of ac/dc,
you've made 15 albums and they all sound the same!!

angus replys, thats 17 albums, thank you!

ROCK/ROLL

 

[Addicted2Vap]

I have to disagree aswell. I am a die-hard Greed Day fan and have personally evolved with the times and direction of today's music. Billie and the crew are just evolving with the times to fit. Can't say I blame them in the least. Their older style has become less profitable in the years so they created newer more modern music to fit today's mold. Don't get me wrong I still regularly listen to songs from Dookie and Shenanigans, but I evenly listen to all their newer music from 21st Century Breakdown aswell.

 

[bassnut]

Face it. Here's the hard fact:
You're getting too old.

I did that a long time ago....

Actually you're right. Don't blame them. It's hard to be consistent. Most bands sound great coming right out of the box.
They've had several years to develop that sound usually.
After, maybe at best, two releases, that's done.
Producing more of the same or even better is REALLY DIFFICULT!
Very few bands can do that. You can't blame them for trying. Everybody has to make a living.

 

[DaveP]

The old Green Day sounded like a heavy Buddy Holley style. I got tired of that by the late 60s. The new Green Day reminds me of rem, wh0 I still like to hear from time to time.

My opinion may not count much here. I bought Rolling Stones records when Satisfaction was a hit.

 

[firefox335]

Billie and the crew are just evolving with the times to fit. Can't say I blame them in the least. Their older style has become less profitable in the years so they created newer more modern music to fit today's mold.

To me that's part of the problem. Any musician should be into their craft because of their love of music - not profit. There's nothing wrong with profit. But when your desire for profit makes you change everything to gain more profit, I see it as a sad affair. In the mid to late seventies, kids were becoming tired of slick arena rock. The frustration over the technical prowess it took to make it in rock-n-roll gave birth to the punk rock movement. Kids learned to play 3 chords and bang out songs that came from the heart, not some songwriter's back catalog. I can sum it up simply by using Jeff Goldblum's line from Jurassic Park:

God creates dinosaurs - God destroys dinosaurs - God creates man - man destroys God - man creates dinosaurs.

Fans create arena rock - fans destroy arena rock - fans create punk rock - punk rock creates Green Day - Green Day destroys punk rock - Green Day creates arena rock.

Yeah, yeah, maybe it's all just sour grapes with me. I'm big enough to admit that. But the sound of early Green Day inspired me. In fact, it just inspired me to write a kick-... song last night. All I've ever wanted to do was make my own cd with my own songs. I don't even care if anyone else ever listens to it. I have no desire for fame or fortune. It would be nice to have the opportunity to play my own songs live one day.

So I guess in true punk rock fashion, if you don't like what's being done... Do It Yourself.

 

[firefox335]

Face it. Here's the hard fact:
You're getting too old.

Oh God, I know! I was sitting in the car with another member of my band when he piped up and said. "You know, music today is really crap. It's not like it was in the 90s." I turned to him and replied "Do you realize how old that makes us sound?" LOL.

 

[frequentj]

Oh God, I know! I was sitting in the car with another member of my band when he piped up and said. "You know, music today is really crap. It's not like it was in the 90s." I turned to him and replied "Do you realize how old that makes us sound?" LOL.

OK, the fact that you are referring to the '90s as the good old days makes ME feel old!

 

[VAPOINSANO]

The old Green Day sounded like a heavy Buddy Holley style. I got tired of that by the late 60s. The new Green Day reminds me of rem, wh0 I still like to hear from time to time.

My opinion may not count much here. I bought Rolling Stones records when Satisfaction was a hit.

hi davep ,

if i listed even 1/4 of the music i listen too, you'd think id been pushin daisy's for awhile now... lol
also awesome addition in"woman rocks" thread! thx

we are truly only as old as our minds want 2 b !!LOL

and 2 frequentj ,
you got a lonnnnng way to old bud...lol
ps christian bale's gettin burnt-out ,poor sob to many goodmovies 2 soon! lol

honorable mention to stay on topic,lol
to bassnut,pav,brad and all others,cuz there in the trenches!
long live the musicians!


all this is MHO


sorry,
firefox335 i did not want to post again+ forgot to do a type-by mention 2 u....your contributions r keeping some of these threads alive,great commentz+thank-you!

sure hope you get to read this?
mayb BA can help?lol

 

[firefox335]

hi davep ,

if i listed even 1/4 of the music i listen too, you'd think id been pushin daisy's for awhile now... lol
also awesome addition in"woman rocks" thread! thx

we are truly only as old as our minds want 2 b !!LOL

and 2 frequentj ,
you got a lonnnnng way to old bud...lol
ps christian bale's gettin burnt-out ,poor sob to many goodmovies 2 soon! lol

honorable mention to stay on topic,lol
to bassnut,pav,brad and all others,cuz there in the trenches!
long live the musicians!


all this is MHO

I can dig that. I was born in 1975, but when I started to learn to play guitar and bass, I was learning songs by The Yardbirds, Cream, The Kinks, The Beatles, Led Zeppelin and Grand Funk Railroad. I've never understood a lot of people that are young now. Quite a few of them will not listen to music that was recorded before they were born. A lot of stuff from the 50s and 60s sounds just as good today as it did back then.

 

[bornagainst]

They don't suck nearly as much as Disturbed and the new wave of metalcore. I give Green Day credit for just doing their own thing, and progressing from the old Lookout Records years.

 

[xg4bx]

Oh God, I know! I was sitting in the car with another member of my band when he piped up and said. "You know, music today is really crap. It's not like it was in the 90s." I turned to him and replied "Do you realize how old that makes us sound?" LOL.

I had this exact same thought the other day as i was cruising youtube for helmet, filter, faith no more and life of agony videos. i nodded in satisfaction and said to myself "now THIS is music, not garbage like today's stuff". i'm only 33. *sighs*

 

[firefox335]

People are still making good music, it's just not widely heard. Here's Before Cars - Chad Channing's band. He was Nirvana's Drummer before Dave Grohl.

 

[Steel]

Megadeth's still got it, imo



\m/ >_< \m/

 

[DaveP]

Someone please tell me what happened to freestyle concert solos. Being an Allman Brothers/Skynyrd/Gov't Mule/EVH fan, I miss that kind of creativity. Was it truly because band members considered it showing off, or did the art just miss a generation?

 

[VAPOINSANO]

Was it truly because band members considered it showing off, or did the art just miss a generation?

YEA.... DaveP....including DRUM SOLOS!!!

 

[Mac]

It was all down hill after dookie and there were only 2 or 3 songs I liked on that one. The soft rock mtv garbage they released after that was well... Not my thing. The singer knows what punk is. I think he just happens to prefer fortune and fame.

He was once quoted as saying:

"Once someone asked me what is punk? So I kicked over a garbage can and said: That's punk! So he kicked over a garbage can and said: That's punk? No I said, that's trendy!"

LOL