Why does Halo claim this?

[Zelphie]

Im not knocking Halo, Ive never actually tried them but why is this statement on their webpage. Is it true, untrue? ...How does Halo know?

Electronic Cigarette by Halo


" Overseas e-liquid often carries a smaller price tag, but it comes at quite a cost. Chinese smoke juice is notorious for being manufactured using Pesticide-Grade Nicotine, and Industrial-Grade Propylene Glycol. These contaminated ingredients pose an increasing and unnecessary risk to electronic cigarette users throughout the world"

 

[Algernon]

Yes, because they've obviously personally tested and purchased every single Chinese-manufactured e-juice.

As-freaking-if.

 

[Firefly13]

Just a sales pitch....

 

[banjo]

After reading that bit of misinformation, outright ill informed & misleading, I would never purchase anything from this supplier. I've used a lot of HC & DeKang juice, and found it to be of high quality. I really dislike this type of fear mongering, and it is a very disruptive practice to engage in. It ends up harming the whole industry. Thanks for posting.

 

[Sdh]

I agree...fear mongering practice. Never considered using them...now I won't. Unless, they can provide documentation related to that statement. LOL. Unreal

 

[lasttango]

Chinese smoke juice is notorious for being manufactured using Pesticide-Grade Nicotine,

This may be true... regardless, Halo was one of the companies that helped bring up the industry standard -

In terms of the accuracy of that statement, you could email Levi at Extreme Vaping and ask him... He sells some of the highest quality Nic on the market...

 

[iJax]

I dont know if this statement by Halo is true, but the problem is its not FALSE.

China is the problem here, not the Statement.

Made In China - Poison For US!
China's poison milk kills three children and leaves 6,000 sick | Mail Online
2008 Chinese milk scandal - Wikipedia, the free encyclopedia


edit..This doesnt mean I agree with the USA's FDA way to do busines..."its not about safety, its first about who you paid, then we can talk about safety"

 

[Papa Lazarou]

I suspect it's scaremongering and a pure sales pitch unless they can back it up with solid evidence, but it certainly plays to the fears that some people have about Chinese products in general.

Re. the above links tainted products can happen in any country. There has been a big issue with eggs infected with salmonella in the US recently hasn't there? The fact China has given the death sentence to the perpetrators in the melamine scandal suggests they are serious about dissuading others from doing the same.

 

[breaktru]

Well it worked, I got the fear, so I'll stick with juice from the good old USA thank you.

 

[Kevin Freeheart]

I think it's collectivist and unfair to say that.

Sure, some companies in China may use pesticide-grade nicotine and industrial-grade PG. But 1.) Not ALL do, so fearing Chinese juices for that reason is like fearing kittens because they have legs and ZOMG... spiders have legs too. You're applying a trait (inferior) that has no relevant to another (geographic location).

2.) Who sets these "grades"? I'll tell ya what... Knowing the ratio of rat fecese to beef that is allowed to be sold in US Supermarkets alarms me. I don't really give much credit to the FDA when it comes to ferriting out what is safe and not. So, that said, is there any evidence that pesticide-grade nicotine is harmful or inferior? We know all nicotine is a poison. I also know that most chemical fertilizers are key ingredients in munitions used in WWII. Again, "pesticide-grade" implies a connotation that might have no bearing on the reality.

 

[banjo]

If I posted that "all USA made juice from many suppliers was made with Pesticide-Grade Nicotine & Industrial-Grade Propylene Glycol," with absolutely no proof, would any of you take my word for it. This is exactly what Halo is stating on their web site, and they are obviously hoping that you will not buy juice from China, but from them instead. And, just to prove how infectious crap like this is, people post examples of bad milk produced in China, which has no relationship to the question at hand, and assume that we will assume there is some correlation between the two - "China is the problem here, not the Statement." With the whole eCig industry under attack from many sides - FDA, AMA, big tobacco, etc., why would we want to engage in this type of fear mongering among ourselves? It seems a little self-defeating to me.

 

[Zelphie]

This may be true... regardless, Halo was one of the companies that helped bring up the industry standard -

In terms of the accuracy of that statement, you could email Levi at Extreme Vaping and ask him... He sells some of the highest quality Nic on the market...

Another member told me the same thing, thanks Ill keep them in mind for my next nic order.

 

[Zelphie]

If I posted that "all USA made juice from many suppliers was made with Pesticide-Grade Nicotine & Industrial-Grade Propylene Glycol," with absolutely no proof, would any of you take my word for it. This is exactly what Halo is stating on their web site, and they are obviously hoping that you will not buy juice from China, but from them instead. And, just to prove how infectious crap like this is, people post examples of bad milk produced in China, which has no relationship to the question at hand, and assume that we will assume there is some correlation between the two - "China is the problem here, not the Statement." With the whole eCig industry under attack from many sides - FDA, AMA, big tobacco, etc., why would we want to engage in this type of fear mongering among ourselves? It seems a little self-defeating to me.

Ya, I have no problem with Chinese juice, its mainy what I vape. I dont like the questionable claims to make a buck though, and I wish the industry was more transparent with ingredients in general both in the US and everywhere else.

 

[Papa Lazarou]

I agree with Kevin and banjo. This sort of negative marketing and scare mongering will not have a good impact on the industry.

At least Dekang have MSDS available giving breakdowns on what is in their liquid. And it is made in a well equipped lab in hygienic conditions. In the UK several firms have submitted Chinese made e-liquids for GC-MS analysis on request of Trading Standards, and have the lab reports on their web sites.

 

[Copperhead]

Well it worked, I got the fear, so I'll stick with juice from the good old USA thank you.

Since I'm not privy to the conditions in which ANY of this juice is manufactured.... I'd agree...and hope for the best....

 

[NCC]

Nicotine is nicotine. C10H14N2. It is poison, and the same chemical we have in our juice is used as an effective insecticide.

 

[emberl]

From their website:

"Halo has a certificate of analysis for all ingredients that go into our formulas. All the formula's ingredients are FDA and FEMA approved, although as you are probably aware, there are no FDA approved e-liquids".

Hahaha.
That does not even make any sense.

 

[Papa Lazarou]

It probably just means the individual ingredients are FDA approved. For example the flavourings are likely FDA approved as food flavourings. Its of limited value for e-liquid IMO, as safe in food doesn't necessarily mean safe to be inhaled over the long term. For example, the "dreaded" diacetyl which has caused a lot of discussion recently is FDA approved as a food flavouring (and is naturally present in butter, wine etc.) but dangerous when inhaled. Also FDA approval can be revoked when further data about an additives safety becomes available.

 

[Firefly13]

Well it worked, I got the fear, so I'll stick with juice from the good old USA thank you.

I'm the opposite, i don't vape liquid that is most of the time made in someones kitchen with absolutely no regulations, your order could be made by a 12 year old for all you know and could mess something up, you could be the first person to get really ill or die from a mistake by one of these dozens of juice vendors popping up everywhere, you just never know.

At least with Dekang it's made in a proper liquid manufacturing facility with strict regulations. (I've seen it and deal with them on a regular basis, aswell as have friends who work there)

Not trying to start the whole scaremongering thing, but i'd rather vape juice that i know is made by a proper chemist with degrees. I have tried some of the USA vendors juice in the past which were hand downs from friends but i wasn't impressed anyway. Same slapdash juice i expected to taste.

 

[hairball]

It's a sales pitch to get people to buy just their items. I stay away from China for a good reason. I work for a company that had the largest dog/cat food recall in US history. Remember this folks? The tainted crap came from China. China had our US customs believing that the product was safe and didn't need to be tested. US fell for it. Our precious four legged pets paid the price. Since the recall, all of our stuff is under strict testing. Due to the recall, I stay away from China's ingestable goods. I like the hardware but nothing else.