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How can you trust a country that are killing their on babies: thousands fell ill in China after drinking milk made from contaminated powder.
Three infants have been killed by the powder, which was laced with the compound melamine, while 158 are fighting acute kidney failure.
The number of sick children has hit 6,244, said Chinese health minister Chen Zhu.
Read more: China's poison milk kills three children and leaves 6,000 sick | Mail Online
If the US had a documented history of companies PURPOSELY using a using a process or material known to cause harm to make a buck...then the Statement, "America is the problem not the statement" would be true.
I'm sorry you don't like it, but its true. Its the old statement, "where's there's smoke there's fire" Its the pink elephant in the room and Halo is pointing at it.
China has a world wide reputation of producing copy, clone, replica and substandard items for profit. You can not argue that fact. It you get a fake XXXXX, odds are it has been manufactured in China. You can bet it was manufactured using cheap materials without QA.
So Halo's statement may not be correct...but it isn't FALSE. Using China's own history of manufacturing,...The problem here is China..not the statement.
As long as you stick to known good sources from China, you will not have a problem. When you see a packaging that isnt right or a source selling for 50% of market value you have to wonder if it was made by a fly-by-night China company using junk.
It's funny people are coming down on China and putting things like lead base paint, milk, etc as examples....
what makes American any better? You think we don't have lies in a money making scheme?
Fluoridated Tap and Bottled Water? Safe? NO! American Made, and made to kill? YES!
Chem-Trails, dumped by the 100 of thousands in our air, safe? NO!
GMO, GM, GE foods and beverages that are proven to kill, USA Made
Things that kill people daily when ingested or slowly kill over time, ALL FDA approved
Did I mention the endless pills to cure one thing, in which you have to take another, but don't worry, death is only likely in 50% of people.
You mean those kinds of things? FDA approved! The only thing that FDA approved means, big companies will be bringing in a crap ton of money and enough to hide truth from the public eye. Go ahead, while those who want to critic other countries for killing people.... go get your flu shot! FDA Approved!
pfffft. No one country is perfect and America is FAR from it. Americans just do a better job over sugar coating and lying about things, and then pointing at other countries.
I think it's based upon PER company, but again ANY company that claims such ridiculous money making schemes as to put something like that to pull people in, can count me out. period. not cool to slander ALL china companies, just because a few aren't the greatest. I could name a few USA made one's, but to each is their own.
what makes American any better? You think we don't have lies in a money making scheme?
Fluoridated Tap and Bottled Water? Safe? NO! American Made, and made to kill? YES!
Chem-Trails, dumped by the 100 of thousands in our air, safe? NO!
GMO, GM, GE foods and beverages that are proven to kill, USA Made
Things that kill people daily when ingested or slowly kill over time, ALL FDA approved
Did I mention the endless pills to cure one thing, in which you have to take another, but don't worry, death is only likely in 50% of people.
You mean those kinds of things? FDA approved! The only thing that FDA approved means, big companies will be bringing in a crap ton of money and enough to hide truth from the public eye. Go ahead, while those who want to critic other countries for killing people.... go get your flu shot! FDA Approved!
pfffft. No one country is perfect and America is FAR from it. Americans just do a better job over sugar coating and lying about things, and then pointing at other countries.
I think it's based upon PER company, but again ANY company that claims such ridiculous money making schemes as to put something like that to pull people in, can count me out. period. not cool to slander ALL china companies, just because a few aren't the greatest. I could name a few USA made one's, but to each is their own.
The real problem with the Halo statement is that it relies upon and feeds xenophobia as can be seen in some of the posts on this thread, and it leads to all sorts of speculations not based in fact. We begin discussing eliquid, and end up talking about milk and dog food. If we take the statement that: "The Centers for Disease Control (CDC) calculates that every year in the United States, there are approximately 76 million cases of food-borne illness, with 325,000 hospitalizations and 5,000 deaths." (The vast majority of these are caused by E. coli O157:H7, Listeria, and Salmonella, bacteria that are found in meat that is processed in poorly or improperly managed slaughter houses, and meat packing facilities.) How does this further our discussion of this issue. I think that it is irresponsible of Halo to post a statement like this without any documentation to support it, and we do the ECF community, and ourselves, a disservice by letting the discussion of an important issue devolve into further fear mongering.
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Agreed....but we always buy "local" anyway....a decision that my husband and I made early on in our vaping. And these guys aren't on our preferred list.
ALL nicotine is Pesticide grade. In it's pure (derived from tobacco) form - nicotine is a pesticide, insecticide and poison.
When ingested by humans in very light densities - it's a stimulant with addictive qualities and indicated for assisting in preventing the development of Parkinsons.
As for statements on that website that "Chinese smoke juice is notorious for..." - that's not accurate. No official health authority (or anyone else) has ever committed a major study to eliquid ingredients. Not from China, nor anywhere else.
It is nice to see that someone is making eliquids from the right ingredients - but a real concern when marketing them is done by trashing the legality of everything else.
Eliquids are already under fire by government parties who don't have the decency to back their statements with fact. Shouldn't be coming from within the industry as well.
... just have to point out the obvious in this....
Ecigs and eliquid were invented entirely in China - and sold from there to the world.
So if anyone is making knock offs - this time guys - it's us!
That's what I said a dozen posts back. It went unnoted. Sometimes facts aren't any fun.
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It might be a poor way of going after the "quality" ticket but Halo uses pharmaceutical grade Nic base.
Now I don't know all the ins/outs of what makes that good but I would assume that it does have to meet a handful of standards and there is a cost to that and to not meeting those standards.
I too feel Halo raised the bar on quality from my own personal usage.
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Now I don't know all the ins/outs of what makes that good but I would assume that it does have to meet a handful of standards and there is a cost to that and to not meeting those standards.
I too feel Halo raised the bar on quality from my own personal usage.
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Well, I do like Halo's Freedom juice, and that's good enough for me to be a loyal customer! So what if they are doing a bit of "puffing"? It's the American way! We are not communists, after all. 
Its getting crazy out there now. When i started there were no ego/rivas and such claims. Everyone recomened the screwdriver back then lol.
Well, I do like Halo's Freedom juice, and that's good enough for me to be a loyal customer! So what if they are doing a bit of "puffing"? It's the American way! We are not communists, after all.
I don't consider it the "American Way" to spread undocumented crap against your competition. And, anything I've said in this forum is not about the quality of Halo's juice, which I've heard is pretty good, but about the lousy way they have decided to promote their product. Halo's product should be able to stand on it's own merits - that's the "American Way."
LOL are you kidding me have you seen any of the commercials for the elections.
You got me there! So I will rephrase it and say that it should be the "American Way." And, I would hope that we can expect better behavior from our suppliers than from our politicians, who are paid by the lobbyists to lie to us.
Exactly banjo. Didn't mean to hijack the thread will political stuff just hit me funny tonight.
Halo is a good company... good guy behind it.
I'd just email him and ask him why he has it there...
I seriously doubt that he'd say he was using a scare tactic.
...But if you think it's insensitive or irresponsible, let him know.
I don't have a problem with it - I have more of a problem with US suppliers that charge the same price as Halo that don't put 1/2 of the effort in making their juice.
I'd just email him and ask him why he has it there...
I seriously doubt that he'd say he was using a scare tactic.
...But if you think it's insensitive or irresponsible, let him know.
I don't have a problem with it - I have more of a problem with US suppliers that charge the same price as Halo that don't put 1/2 of the effort in making their juice.
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