Why doesnt everyone dyi

[billherbst]

My, my, what a contentious thread.

I buy retail juices like there's no tomorrow, and I make DIY juices like there's no yesterday. Liter after liter after liter of both.

DIY has resulted in my having a somewhat greater disdain for the seemingly endless number of lousy retail juices in the marketplace and much greater appreciation for the truly talented retail juice artisans, who continue to astonish me.

 

[markfm]

There is decent juice out there cheaper than that.

I absolutely agree. The fairly high price points I used just show that even at the higher range the daily cost is not so bad.

(this is relative to where I live, where a pack is over $9)

 

[zoiDman]

I don't know if I would call this thread "Contentious".

In fact, it seemed pretty Run-of-the-Mill to me.

 

[gthompson]

Yeah, no one has called anyone any names yet even!

 

[mwa102464]

To funny,

Seriously there are plenty of good juices out there for sure, lots of them . One of the best things about DIY for me personally is just mixing and nailing something I really really like, and being able to dial it in exactly to my likings, plus I like just experimenting with different mixes. I especially like playing with the whole cured tobacco leaves from leaf only.com and mixing a couple different tobaccos, steeping them together for a month and coming up with a great base from this , then using it as is, as well as using it for my base and adding some other flavorings to this base. I've come up with some really good ones this way.

 

[gthompson]

If the FDA has their way, we may all be DIYing soon.....

 

[scarf-ace]

And if they outlaw e-juice, I'm coming to live with scarf.

LOL. If they outlaw e-juice, our favorite vendors will start doing what Australian vendors already do... sell zero nic juices with double flavor, and you have to source your own unflavored nic and dilute it yourself.

EVERYONE will become a DIYer whether you like it or not!

GT you are welcome here. Beer's in the fridge, and it's your turn to clean out the litter box

 

[zoiDman]

If the FDA has their way, we may all be DIYing soon.....

I hate to be the Big Black Fly in the Frosting Icing…

But shouldn’t we be saying “when” instead of “if”?

 

[frosting]

Frosting, I will grant you the point in regards to fruit flavors. Most commercial fruit vapes are indeed simple mixtures of one or two stock flavorings. So DIY for fruits makes sense, since you are basically making the same things that the vendors are selling. (The exception is Ahlusion, who manufactures their own flavorings in addition to ready-to-vape juice, and whose fruits are on a whole other level from anyone else's.)

But I vape tobaccos, specifically naturally extracted tobaccos or NETs, which by definition cannot be mass produced.

So for natural tobacco vapers, we are kind of stuck with buying them unless one of us is crazy enough to be extract it ourselves (like me ).

What got me with most tobacco's is they all seemed... while some did taste good don't get me wrong, never actually tasted like a real cigarette. Some would taste like tobacco itself, but not that combustion. It's a killer for me. I feel like if I vape tobacco juices it would make me want a real one. Ugh.

I love my fruit juices. I'm a fruit cake. Once I got into DIYing I started to see how boring some vendors are. I started to really play with my fruit flavoring and turn it into things beyond just one or two stock flavorings.

I've fiddled with tobaccos, but they take so long to steep my main focus are easier to work with flavors. I did recently have a M-type success. Tobacco takes so much patience, time, I can see just buying vendor juice for it.

 

[tc1]

Just buy premixed nicotine with your desired pg/vg ratio, get some flavors, and follow some recipes that get good reviews.

DIY doesn't have to be hard or time consuming ... at all.

Having said that ... there's nothing wrong with buying your juice from a vendor. You simply save money, and sometimes get a sense of pride by making your own.

 

[Hello World]

gthompson: If the FDA has their way, we may all be DIYing soon.....

Ok by me. I don't want to be on the teetering end of some Gov't Dept's. yeahs or nays as neither has any impact on my vaping, as long as I can get supplies from someplace. Yeahs = Regulation = Taxation.

Prohibition goes absolutely nowhere. Even in Countries where importation of nicotine is illegal no resources have been allocated for enforcement. Custom confiscations are the far reaches of extent for deterrents.

They can't even run after the illegal drug industry.

All smoke & mirrors.

 

[Buggs5347]

My, my, what a contentious thread.

I buy retail juices like there's no tomorrow, and I make DIY juices like there's no yesterday. Liter after liter after liter of both.

DIY has resulted in my having a somewhat greater disdain for the seemingly endless number of lousy retail juices in the marketplace and much greater appreciation for the truly talented retail juice artisans, who continue to astonish me.

Really? I don't see any heated argument in this thread. I see a discussion with various viewpoints.

 

[StereoDreamer]

Being new to vaping...if dyi is so easy why doesnt everyone do it?

For the same reason everyone doesn't bake their own bread, or make their own cookies--it's not easy, and it takes a lot of specialized skills, knowledge, and equipment.

Most people would rather pay someone else to do all that for them, and just plunk down cash for a finished product...

 

[zoiDman]

Yikes...

Posted reply in Wrong thread.

 

[mwa102464]

Actually all it takes is some Nic/PG/VG/Flavorings, a couple of bottles and your in to begin

Special skills required = Download an ejuice calc and measure with a syringe,, fill and try not to spill

 

[tc1]

Being new to vaping...if dyi is so easy why doesnt everyone do it?

For the same reason everyone doesn't bake their own bread, or make their own cookies--it's not easy, and it takes a lot of specialized skills, knowledge, and equipment.

I really think you're over estimating what it takes to DIY.

Some people will prefer not to mess with it ... but it truly is not hard, nor does it take anything special to do.

Trust me ... I'm no chemist.

 

[zoiDman]

Actually all it takes is some Nic/PG/VG/Flavorings, a couple of bottles and your in to begin

Special skills required = Download an ejuice calc and measure with a syringe,, fill and try not to spill

And Patience.

Patience and Good Records helps.

 

[gthompson]

If I ever decide to DIY I'll be extracting tobaccos. No flavorings needed.

 

[mikejm]

I've made some pretty good stuff...

 

[jimmyh]

I am going to try diy. My favorite juice runs $47 for a 70ml bottle from my local vendor. I ordered everything I need to duplicate it for about $35 dollars. If it works the amount made will be about 120ml for maybe $6. I will be able to use the nic and flavors about 5 more times, so I am willing to give it a try. If it turns out great, if not it won't be the first or last $35 I threw away.