Why dont today's economy cars get MUCH better fuel mileage than cars from 22-33 years ago?
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I drive 2500 miles a month (I'm in sales). My previous car was an Acura TL in which I averaged 20 mpg. This year I bought a Prius and I average 50 mpg. I save about $300 per month on gas which just about takes care of my car payment.
Thanks Toyota!
Thanks Toyota!
Doesn't the volt have a much longer electric range and better fuel economy? Not that I want to make it a "foreign" vs "domestic" discussion, but it kind of goes to the point. Why one vs the other? Why "Thanks Toyota?"
In other words... is it brand preference, perception, bias, cost, too new? Not dissing you or the Prius at all. I respect your choice. I just don't understand it. Just curious.
The answer to the question is really an answer to "what can/should Detroit do better?" If they make a car that gets better mileage than the Prius and you drive 2,500 miles a month...?????
In other words... is it brand preference, perception, bias, cost, too new? Not dissing you or the Prius at all. I respect your choice. I just don't understand it. Just curious.
The answer to the question is really an answer to "what can/should Detroit do better?" If they make a car that gets better mileage than the Prius and you drive 2,500 miles a month...?????
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Well the answer to that is that they cost over 38K and since it's a new model, is untested. I paid 25k for the Prius and got 1k of free gas. Also, the Volt only goes between 25 and 50 miles before the gas engine kicks in. Don't get me wrong, I wanted to look at the Volt but the price is too high.
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See and that's another answer for the OP.... they are currently expensive to produce (at least in the USA). Demand will have to drive it to market (and drive the costs down). Thanks for answering.
Looks like they are paying attention to the all-electric mileage:
http://www.bloomberg.com/news/2012-...volt-mileage-rating-beating-toyota-prius.html
Looks like they are paying attention to the all-electric mileage:
http://www.bloomberg.com/news/2012-...volt-mileage-rating-beating-toyota-prius.html
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Since the automobile was invented, we have depended on a series of explosions that are timed to turn a crankshaft to drive the wheels. When we advance past that technology we can have efficient engines. I think electric is the wave of the future, but hybrids are the first of these. As technology gets better, electric car efficiency will rise and travel range will increase.
Maybe the cold fusion barrier will be broken and we can power our cars on anything that can chemical be broken down to provide the elements needed. Water would be good. Extract the hydrogen and oxygen, use them for power and put them back together into steam that returns the water to the environment in its original form. Just periodically change a filter that cleans any contaminants from the steam before release.
Maybe the cold fusion barrier will be broken and we can power our cars on anything that can chemical be broken down to provide the elements needed. Water would be good. Extract the hydrogen and oxygen, use them for power and put them back together into steam that returns the water to the environment in its original form. Just periodically change a filter that cleans any contaminants from the steam before release.
The hydrogen fuel cell vehicle has larger/more expensive engineering problems than a cost viable chevy volt. Really, if you just make a better battery, you could convert the current prius to a 'mostly' electric car. With that vehicle format, a non petroleum fuel becomes more viable, because you need so little of it.
It goes back to the cost/size/capacity fight we currently have with electric cars. Right now we can give you any two you want.
It goes back to the cost/size/capacity fight we currently have with electric cars. Right now we can give you any two you want.
Yeah I was just wondering the same thing the other day actually. I've owned 2 Isuzu Pickup trucks in my life, one a 1987 and the other a 1995, funny thing is, the '87 got 29 mpg, while the '95 only gets 23. The '87 was a 4 speed, the '95 is a 5 speed, so I'd assume it should have gotten much better mileage. I don't have the answer, it's crazy, gas prices keep going up and fuel economy just gets worse or stays the same.
The '95 had to meet much more stringent emissions standards. It was putting out more fumes but less NOx and other pollutants.
With trucks, a lot of mpg is won or lost in the rear end gear ratio. As towing capacity goes up, mpg goes down.
With motorcycles a lot of energy is going against the lack of a truly aerodynamic form. They also produce more greenhouse gas for the same reason.
I'd love to see more gliders as a practical form of transportation. Or Atleast more ultralight single passenger planes, those are cool.
I'd love to see more gliders as a practical form of transportation. Or Atleast more ultralight single passenger planes, those are cool.
As intelligent as we are, I don't think we've scratched the surface of the possibilities involved in harnessing energy from the environment. Energy storage and retrieval and efficient use of that energy to produce motion are still open technologies and still in their infancy, IMO.
Just a hunch.
Just a hunch.
We have mercury engines!
Drop a charge into liquid mercury an it spins counterclockwise, fast enough to harness energy enough to power itself and other stuff..
We have carbon to plasma recycling stations.. All sorts of wierd stuff the Public isn't told about
Drop a charge into liquid mercury an it spins counterclockwise, fast enough to harness energy enough to power itself and other stuff..
We have carbon to plasma recycling stations.. All sorts of wierd stuff the Public isn't told about
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