Why don't y'all come over here?

[jtpjc]

No more of the funny green stuff though:

Dutch no-smoking drive takes a hit - Economy news by mail.com

 

[Ande]

On my way over.

Seriously- been there a few times. Nice country.

And good to hear that people are starting to see a little sense.

Ande

 

[Ande]

PS- if 61% of Dutch smokers question the harmfulness of secondhand smoke, what makes them so sure that this means they are "woefully uninformed?" Sounds well informed to me...

 

[jtpjc]

PS- if 61% of Dutch smokers question the harmfulness of secondhand smoke, what makes them so sure that this means they are "woefully uninformed?" Sounds well informed to me...

Over here we are all socialist conservatives of the extraterrestrial kind Sets us apart a bit.

 

[Vocalek]

Found this story that lists overall cancer incidence by country.

Cancer rates: see how countries compare worldwide | News | guardian.co.uk


USA = #7
Netherlands = #12
UK = #22
Sweden = #26

Maybe there's something to that "switch to snus" thing?

This story shows smoking rates for males and females and lung cancer incidence for males and females by country for 2008. Frank Davis - Smoking and Lung Cancer Stats

Sweden......17 23 19.4 18.1
USA...........25 19 49.5 36.2

Clarification: the numbers in the rows represent male smoking rate, female smoking rate, male lung cancer incidence, female lung cancer incidence. Smoking rates are percent of the gender and lung cancer incidence is per 100,000.

Puzzle: If Sweden has more female smokers than the US, why are the lung cancer rates so much lower?

 

[Ande]

You mean, maybe cigarettes aren't the only cause of lung cancer? Gulp.

THis is NOT what I was taught.

Ande

 

[Vapeterry]

Very interesting question Vocalek!!!

 

[VapApe]

You mean, maybe cigarettes aren't the only cause of lung cancer? Gulp.

THis is NOT what I was taught.

Ande

Ever been lied to before?

Remember few years back, when eggs were death on a plate and now there not so bad after all.

 

[bjannr]

Maybe the cigarettes in the USA have different/more additive chemicals in them. Also in the Northeast US, there are alot of coal mines which could be part of the culprit. JMHO

 

[rothenbj]

Interesting info Elaine. The smoking rate for American men is around 147% of the percent of Swedish men but the lung cancer rate is 255% of the Swedes. That's a huge increase. Then you look at US women who smoke at less than 83% of the Swedish rate but double the lung cancer rate. I wonder how the ANTZ would spin that "abnormality".

 

[Ande]

Ever been lied to before?

Remember few years back, when eggs were death on a plate and now there not so bad after all.

Lied to?? By the gogovernment???

Shocking.

Ande

 

[sqirl1]

Maybe the cigarettes in the USA have different/more additive chemicals in them. Also in the Northeast US, there are alot of coal mines which could be part of the culprit. JMHO

yeah there are 2 exceptions to the "made in the US means better quality and safety". The first exception is cars... the other is tobacco products lol