I always remembered I hail from coffee (New England) not tea (England). I'd like to thank my second grade teacher for that.
You got a legit lol from me though, that's what counts.
Why don't you become a supporting member?
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I always remembered I hail from coffee (New England) not tea (England). I'd like to thank my second grade teacher for that.
You got a legit lol from me though, that's what counts.
I think the best reason is that you don't have to deal with advertisements.And the best reason to support? Personalized title.
But access to this super-cool new subforum may be the best perk of all...
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Coffee, not tea, I like that. I am the daughter of a naturalized Canadian though, so I'm both!
I think the best reason is that you don't have to deal with advertisements.
But access to this super-cool new subforum may be the best perk of all...
Supporting Members Forum
I never noticed ads. Where were they?
The badges don't show up in all the skins, try some other skins out till you can see it, it's under the avatars. There is also a poll going on in the Supporting Members forum about this, check it out. http://www.e-cigarette-forum.com/fo...-forum/376612-supporting-members-graphic.html
Well, to be honest, I don't know since I have been a supporting member for over three years.
But back in the day, they had advertisements loading if you were not a supporting member, and they slowed things down quite a bit.
I just figured they still had them if you weren't a supporting member.
But I could be wrong.
Is there any information about the legal status of ECF ... is it a for-profit corporation ... what exactly is done with the membership fees in terms of fighting the FDA ... are the books open to the membership for inspection ... who derives any income from ECF and how much.
Having been involved with supposedly charitable organizations in the past where directors were hoarding away hundreds of thousands annually while desperately pleading for support still makes my stomach turn.
Having been involved with supposedly charitable organizations in the past where directors were hoarding away hundreds of thousands annually while desperately pleading for support still makes my stomach turn.
My thinking on all of this is who cares?
If the owners of this forum make a fortune from it, they more than deserve it.
Not saying they are, or they aren't, I'm just saying.
I wasn't aware that they are claiming to be a charitable organization though.
Are you maybe thinking of CASAA?
My thinking on it is if someone is going to be a member then these things should be known to them, otherwise one is merely a contributor and to exactly what is also unknown if you don't have the infos. People routinely state become a member to fight the FDA, well I say show me the money. Otherwise it's just marketing generalities.
As far as getting a lot of support from this forum, yes very true, but I also give back my time to help others as I'm sure you have done too. I don't have any issues with $ 25 a year, but for me it's more the principle of it. I feel there has to be at least a minimal amount of information I need to even consider whether that could be defined as a member, and have no aversion to becoming one.
That's another issue.
That would be 1 piece of info that has a bearing on my query.
Will look into that.
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I do think that you are thinking of CASAA, as become a supporting member here would not assist in fighting the FDA much.
Now as far as joining CASAA, I do believe CASAA would be willing to show you their books if you asked them to.
When they were formed here on this forum, transparency was one of the founding principles.
Then again, you don't even have to pay to join CASAA, but donations are always needed.
I clicked through to place my 'order' for it, but the only payment option shown was PayPal.
I had a PayPal account for years, then they changed their rules so people with some disabilities can't have accounts.
If ECF ever takes credit cards directly, let me know.
I had a PayPal account for years, then they changed their rules so people with some disabilities can't have accounts.
If ECF ever takes credit cards directly, let me know.
unfortunately direct credit cards is something that is not very likely to happen because setting up a merchant account and CC gateway for the low volume we would process would be prohibitively expensive.
Thanks!
In all seriousness, am I stuck with the big button under my avatar?
I must say, it looks good on you.
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I am not a supporting member for one simple reason - PayPal. Sarge has made it clear why that is the only option at this point and I respect that. I will support ECF when another option is available, as I have made my stance with PayPal clear.
I know that, but that answer falls short if you are collecting money and offering memberships.
Members not entitled to know where it goes? Expenses and also profit?
Why are you selling memberships?
They are not selling memberships. They are offering you the CHOICE to support their website. If you don't want to support it, then move on. I joined here in August for free. I haven't paid one dime for all the knowledge and help I have received since then, and I am still a member of this site. I have paid it forward and saved a few friends and family members from a life of smoking.
As I go back and read that it sounds harsh to have gained what I have from this place and not paid back financially but I have my reasons. When another option presents itself I will be first in line to pay what I feel I owe.
As I go back and read that it sounds harsh to have gained what I have from this place and not paid back financially but I have my reasons. When another option presents itself I will be first in line to pay what I feel I owe.
funny thing is that I do have a jar that I collect my loonies toonies and even $5 bills sometimes... just not on debit and I'd rather not xfer out of savings. Yay saving for school. Definitely donating beginning of march though
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