Or why what I say does not mean much. I think there are to many people who depend on what people say in threads and who do not take responibility on themselves. The world has always been a place of buyer beware. I am so tired of complaints that something does not work like the posts about it. This is a very new industry and taste is very subjective. I think that Fluxies with a very modest change is the best thing you can vape. Now is this how they come from the factory. No it is not. But if you had the old Fluxies with the cup seal and the o-ring in them the way to go was to remove cup seal and replace with o-ring. This in my opinion makes the best flavor and vape on the planet. Now i stated this and some people will take it as fact. Is it? Yes for me it is but that does not mean it will work for everyone out there. Like I said taste is subjective and depends alot on how you vape. So if you buy something on what I say then the only person or company you can blame is you. I personaly thank Danno and Bad for giving me the weapons I needed to quit a habbit that was going to kill me in the long run. Remember taste when vaping is dependent on voltage of device, ohms of carto, viscosity of liquid and how fast you vape. So if you buy something that does not work for you read these threads to see if you can make it supreme for you. Sorry about long thread I have been drinking a lot of beer. Seems to be the best cure for lost taste bud syndrome we all get for no apparent reason.
Why Fluxies are Supreme
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I've been using Fluxos for about a year. They are the "gold standard" by which I compare whatever else I've briefly tried. They're the best. Do they work perfectly out of the box? No. But the minor mods involved aren't difficult, or particularly time consuming. I do like the Phoenix XL; and am anxious to try the Phoenix top coils.
I do the same. Eveything I have tried I compare it against fluxies. They have alll fallen short. I also am waiting to try the phoenix top coils to see if they can compare or surpass fluxies. Its strange how I keep trying to beat something that works perfect for me. But that is part of the game to get the perfect vape. I guess we all are addicts in a good way. Of course this makes sense if you consider we all use to be addicted to tobacco.
I had a box of fluxomizers and every single o.e tasted burnt from the get go. Havent touched em since. The phoenix things arent bad, but i prefer boge cartos or a genesis atty than flux crap
If Got Vapes would add the oring or doughnut back to fluxies people would enjoy them more. That very simple mod with holding it horizontal provides excellent vapor and taste with no dry hits. The new fluxies with this mod do not leak because the drip tip sets flush against the oring so no juice gets out.
I tried the Boge 2.0 cartos. Do not see whats the big deal with them. They are still filler catos and you have to keep them wet or you get burnt taste. They have wicks that set in filler with juice in it. They also give dry hits when not kept wet and burnt filler is just as bad as dry hit on ce2. Actually it is worse because i can dry burn my coil to clean it and you never can get burnt taste out of filler carto or clean its wick completely.
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many people love the boge 2.0, i personally don't like them but for those that do , its a fine carto. but still has the same issues that people seem to not have issues with or just don't mention them often , Toke you hit in on the nail, if you don't let it soak, burn taste, when it gets low i had to re top just like many other cartos ,when they are redy and working they are a good carto but again its a matter of preference, i will not distract anyone that wants to try a boge 2.0 , if it works for them then by all means use what works for you. Ill take a phoenix xl over any TYPICAL filler carto any day, no TYPICAL filler carto can match the taste of the phoenix xl.
Now if you like filler cartos but want something that uses 90% less filler so that equates to 90% less sock taste & a cartomizer that finally gives full flavor then The Next Generation of hybrid Cartomizers is coming in less then 2 weeks, 2.2 ml, 65% of your juice will sit freely in the bottom of the carto , a small tail goes up to the tiny little wrap of filler which covers the insulation wick and horizontal coil which sits at the top, Thats right , the worlds first Top coil CARTOMIZER with 90 less filler and empty bottom of carto where your juice sits., After 4 months of fine tuning, THEY ARE COMING
They are made to be used with the supplied mouth peace that is attached to the carto but removable mouth piece.
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After sending out many samples the first thing that each person did was remove the mouth peace and jam a drip tip in it and then vape and get juice in mouth, when they where told what they were doing wrong alight bulb popped into my head.
Since it seems it is natural instinct for many just to use there drip tip, you must realize this next gen cartomizer use a top coil bottom fed system and the small filler and insulation is closer to the top of the carto then other cartos, if you plop a normal drip tip into it, you will get juice in mouth because you are pressing hard against the top section of filler which will squeeze juice right into the mouth peace and even cause flooding, This is why it is recommended to use the mouth peace that is installed already on each next gen carto(name coming soon)
But.........
I know some people just prefer a driptip style, so i ordered a bunch of the silicone drip tips that you would normally find in the phoenix xl pack, it soft and it fits but its post is to long, the good part is that its soft silicone and you can cut the bottom off a tad and then insert that into the next gen carto, if you cut it to the right size it will fit snugly without pushing the filler top coil.
Folks when I say they have 90% less filler I mean it, WE could of carried these 4 months ago, many people have received samples to beta for us these but the final version is now ready , we will carry these next gen cartos in prefilled and empty
Now if you like filler cartos but want something that uses 90% less filler so that equates to 90% less sock taste & a cartomizer that finally gives full flavor then The Next Generation of hybrid Cartomizers is coming in less then 2 weeks, 2.2 ml, 65% of your juice will sit freely in the bottom of the carto , a small tail goes up to the tiny little wrap of filler which covers the insulation wick and horizontal coil which sits at the top, Thats right , the worlds first Top coil CARTOMIZER with 90 less filler and empty bottom of carto where your juice sits., After 4 months of fine tuning, THEY ARE COMING
They are made to be used with the supplied mouth peace that is attached to the carto but removable mouth piece.
BUT>>>>>>>>>
After sending out many samples the first thing that each person did was remove the mouth peace and jam a drip tip in it and then vape and get juice in mouth, when they where told what they were doing wrong alight bulb popped into my head.
Since it seems it is natural instinct for many just to use there drip tip, you must realize this next gen cartomizer use a top coil bottom fed system and the small filler and insulation is closer to the top of the carto then other cartos, if you plop a normal drip tip into it, you will get juice in mouth because you are pressing hard against the top section of filler which will squeeze juice right into the mouth peace and even cause flooding, This is why it is recommended to use the mouth peace that is installed already on each next gen carto(name coming soon)
But.........
I know some people just prefer a driptip style, so i ordered a bunch of the silicone drip tips that you would normally find in the phoenix xl pack, it soft and it fits but its post is to long, the good part is that its soft silicone and you can cut the bottom off a tad and then insert that into the next gen carto, if you cut it to the right size it will fit snugly without pushing the filler top coil.
Folks when I say they have 90% less filler I mean it, WE could of carried these 4 months ago, many people have received samples to beta for us these but the final version is now ready , we will carry these next gen cartos in prefilled and empty
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Sounds like you merged a ce2 with a carto. This might be a great idea. The filler would act like a cup seal that would tke care of overwicking or leaking down tube. Also could help with condesation that builds up in drip tip from vaping. Could also help keep wick wet without holding horizontal as much. Can you dry burn these like ce2?
I want to love the fluxos. Those were the clearos that got me started on clearos over a year ago, but I just never could get them to perform as consistently for me as the vision extremes. I LOVE these Phoenix bottom coils, and I wasn't a huge bottom coil fan, so I really can't wait to try the top coil version. I really liked the rubber drip tip that came with the phoenix cartos, but I stick my pv in a side pocket on my purse, and I was always getting the drip tip snagged on stuff, and then it would go flying across the room. One day, it got caught on my seat belt and went flying across the parking lot, and that was the last I saw of that lol!
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........................................................................ .......................................................................................................................................................................................................................... ..Have that issue myself. post black cups/seals, think it is the white silicone... with the supremes (have only ordered 1 box so far) first one I tried made me actually queasy, went through hoops cleaning, dry burning opening up wick slits nada.... use black upperring from older style no problems, did not have taste issues with the black cap cups either after opening wick slots. been using it in rotation with DCT Tanks, Vision Stones for a while now, have to keep fiddling with the distance of the white silicone and the coils on these too or similar but less intense blech.................................................................................................................................................................................................................................................................................................................................................................................................................................................. Broke out a fresh one, filled it with juice and blech, odd taste, burning type irritation back of throat, and queasiness (though did soldier on, hopring would clear up) tore down cleaned, dry burned, tried vaping a bit with out the stemmed-cup cap, was fine, opened wick slots on cup cap, reinstalled and the blech ..............................................................................................................................................................................................................................Need to try w/o the white silicone cap again and see for sure....myself I would not be happy with the old upper ring, like the ease of filling with the new style, and the price point vs the other types carried stardusts etc. ..............................................................................................................................................................................................................................If my hypothesis is correct, need to increase the distance between the coil and id seal lip of the stemmed cup cap seal....have not found anything I can trim that down evenly easliy and accurately with and having that bit perform it's function............................................................. ............................................................................................................................................................................................................................I'm thinking it need not go so deep in the ceramic cup, back off on it, make the cup taller, to increase the distance tween the cup cap and the coil............................................................................................................................................................................................................................Try vaping w/o that part, if can keep vertical and see if that changes anything for you ..............................................................................................................................................................................................................................It really seems the white silicone and proximity to the coil is the issue, unless I get my orders picked out a special blech bin, be it this or contaminants..... idk the new ones have worked so well for so many, maybe the blech bin is more plausible (chortle). ..............................................................................................................................................................................................................................But on a comparison vape the fresh fluxo supreme and a dct tank same juice....has to be material related juice tastes fine out the dct, no off/odd taste, burning/irritation back of throat. ..............................................................................................................................................................................................................................IMHO the Fluxies need a bit of tweaking yet...... ....AND WHY IS THIS TURNING A PARAGRAPHED POST INTO A LONG RUN ON SENTENCE FORMAT ARGHHHHH!!!!......good thing I don't post much or would wear out the period key in short order.....hmnn emoticons not working for me either. preview did not sally forth as typed either...but easier to read, not to imply is in any way worth reading
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I'm having more problems with the phoenix than I have ever had with a fluxo, but I know I'm in the minority.
But the phoenix tastes so dang good, I'm not giving up
So yes, fluxo is my gold standard
But the phoenix tastes so dang good, I'm not giving up
So yes, fluxo is my gold standard
I'm retrying the idea of removing the silicone entirely and shove my ceramic drip tip all the way down. Damn thing just doesn't leak but only have held it upside down for about a minute. Don't really like ceramic drip tips though, cold in the mouth, but the plastic ones heat up and burn a bit I think. If you get leakage take a millimeter off the top of the tube. Thing gets as easy as a Stardust to fill.
Interesting concept. Tank with integrated carto. Pretty cool
I do like carto's when freshly filled. Problem for me with them is they go south pretty quick, and can not be cleaned.
Any chance these are made such that the filler can be unwrapped from the coil so a dry burn can be performed then put back together?
The ability to clean at will in minutes to like new performance with the Pheonix is going to be tough to beat.
I don't care for the new flux supremes.....tried 3 of them. Got a lot more dry hits....seems tube is shorter or something.... Also they never even lasted long enough till a dry burn/clean. They quit working after a couple days.
Please bring back the older green ones.......
Please bring back the older green ones.......
Will these new hybrid cartos be available with dual coils?
For me the new Supremes didn't work well until I removed the new rubber seal thing and replaced it with a trimmed black o-ring. A regular drip tip caused the plastic tube to stretch enough to cuase the cup to flood a bit. I tried using the mouth piece from the PHx and that solved that problem. I still prefere the Phx to my modded Supremes.
For me the new Supremes didn't work well until I removed the new rubber seal thing and replaced it with a trimmed black o-ring. A regular drip tip caused the plastic tube to stretch enough to cuase the cup to flood a bit. I tried using the mouth piece from the PHx and that solved that problem. I still prefere the Phx to my modded Supremes.
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Forget the hybrid carto- lets talk about these drip tips. 
Bad- are they gonna be available in colors or just the standard black? I really like that soft drip tip, and would like to have some variety in them.
OK, now that that's out of the way, the hybrid does sound interesting. I am happy with my fluxos and Phoenixes. I can't decide which I like better even. But I can't resist new stuff either.
Bad- are they gonna be available in colors or just the standard black? I really like that soft drip tip, and would like to have some variety in them.
OK, now that that's out of the way, the hybrid does sound interesting. I am happy with my fluxos and Phoenixes. I can't decide which I like better even. But I can't resist new stuff either.
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