Honestly. I can't tell the difference. The 510 cartos seems to have just as much throat hit at the 808 cartos do. In fact I prefer the 510 cartos. For some reason they just seem to draw easier and hit just as well. I also noticed the that 510 atomizers seems to hit pretty well (at least in the beginning) so I was shocked since everyone says its not as tough as the 808.
My girlfriend loves the draw and vapor of her 510. But she hates the manual batteries. She can't seem to get over that. She would much prefer an automatic, but we've both heard autos for 510's are garbage.
It's too bad you've heard so many bad things about the perfectly fine 510 automatic batteries. Like your girlfriend, I hate the manual batteries. I use nothing but the automatic ones, and I have one manual, the first one I bought. Nothing but automatics after that first one. I guess there are some non-Joye 510 batteries that are activated by sound. I've NEVER had that happen with my Joye brand 510 automatic batteries. It's activated by suction only.
If she would like the sleek look of a 510 with automatic 510 (non-ego) battery for her regular PV, I highly recommend sticking with only the Joye brand for everything. The cheap imitations are what you keep hearing bad things about. That and perhaps old outdated posts or people using older products.
For the price of a carton of cigarettes, she can get three Joye 510 automatic batteries and 4 packs of cartomizers. If you already have the chargers, she'd be set!
EDIT: You can buy the automatic Joye 510 batteries, and all authentic Joye products, from cignot.com.
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