I've been sticking with my regular juices for a while and I was about to give this place a try, but no 24mg has stopped me dead in my tracks. 18mg isn't going to cut it I'm afraid. I don't understand why they don't offer this as an option. Every other high end juice manufacturer has 24mg juice and I was really looking forward to trying this place out.
Why isn't there 24mg juice?
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I think (though could be wrong...) it has to do with Clark pre-steeping all juices within the nics offered and not having enough room for adding another gallon jug of all the juices in 24...but I could be wrong. You can always buy your own nic and add to your liking. Honestly, the juice it worth it.
I'm not sure if it's worth the trouble or cost to do that since I've never tried it. Everyone's got different tastes and rates things differently. To one person Mt. Baker Vapor could be premium juice, while another person would say 5 Pawns. I get the impression that Nickticket is somewhere in between.
I think Nicoticket is way better than Five Pawns. I bought a few bottles several months back and sold it all on the classifieds here. I filled a tank with each juice i bought and I had to force myself to vape it. Just because their juice is more expensive than any others doesn't necessarily mean its the best. I'm sure some will disagree because we all have different ideas of what's best.
I'd advise anyone to at least try Nicoticket. Its delicious!
Kent explained this to me recently as being that higher nic content is damaging to good bottles and the quality of the flavors. Don't want to misquote him but thats what I got out of it. Now, honestly, I was 24mg and just did it anyway to try NT...now, if I hit 24mg much I'd be sick. I quickly adjusted. NT juice tastes so good less nic is better so you can vape yourself into LESS of a coma!!
Yeah, the easiest transition I made was from 24 to 18, didn't feel a thing. 18 to 12 wasn't hard, either, because by then I was learning how to coil and improving the nic delivery. 12 to 6 was a journey, though, I told someone on here I wanted to duct tape the drip tip to my mouth and hard wire the fire button.
Were I to vape 24, I'd be light headed in 3 hits.
Get a bottle of 18 and give it a whirl. If you wind up hitting it a little more, the flavor will be worth it.
Were I to vape 24, I'd be light headed in 3 hits.
Get a bottle of 18 and give it a whirl. If you wind up hitting it a little more, the flavor will be worth it.
Flavored, I grew up in Johnson City, been to Chattanooga before. Seems like I see lots of vapors on here from my homeland. I wish I'd see some from the area I'm in now so I could have a friend to vape with 
My thought exactly. Even if you routinely vape a certain %, having a few at the next step down isn't a problem, and yes, the difference btw 18 and 24 isn't as big as we think at first.
Plus, if it's really not enough, NT juices do steep very well. So give it a shot and if it's not enough, come back to it later.
I've been vaping 18, but there is a juice I like a lot that has 14 as its highest. Hasn't really been a problem. I vape it faster, but that's ok.
When I asked about 5 Pawns I wasn't asking which you thought tasted better. it was more a question about quality. There's really only 1 juice they make that I like the taste of, but it's definitely better quality than the stuff from places like V4L, V2, etc. There are plenty of juices out there that taste great but leave a gunky mess behind, don't use natural flavors, or are all made with the same base.
I use a full stainless steel KFL so nothing is going to damage it. I still might give this juice a try. I get the feeling that it's going to be a lot like Highbrow, which isn't bad. Adding nicotine definitely impacts the flavor negatively, but I'd like to have the option. I'm really not interested in weaning down my nicotine consumption. I'm pretty happy with where it is and the flavor of my current juices, but it's always good to find a new juice for your rotation.
I vaped 24mg for years. About two years ago I decided to bump down to 18mg for one reason. I was just not happy with the way my juices tasted and hated them when they steeped or aged.
The bump down has done 2 things - allowed me to continue vaping without relapsing back to cigs - and - I started to enjoy the taste and vapor production of my ejuices.
I am really picky about my ejuice and have tried so many vendors in search of something delicious to keep me vaping.
I am brand new to NT, vaping my first tank brand new. I would not be chiming in here if I didn't mean what I'm saying. I'm already sold across the board.
I can say with sincerity, this juice is awesome, fried in awesome and wrapped with a little awesome bow. Clean, high quality juice - very reasonably priced.
I keep a bottle or two of 24mg around just in case, but I haven't touched it in a while.
It's my experience that the higher the nicotine content the harsher (translates to peppery to me) the flavors are and depending on what you like to vape (at least for me) peppery doesn't play nicely with most flavors.
Even if you decide not to buy NT juice - try a bottle of 18mg anyway, at least to compare.
Also, on a higher end devices the delivery system is more efficient and the bump down to 18mg is rather moot.
Welcome, and good luck! Hope you decide to try some NT It really is worth it.
The bump down has done 2 things - allowed me to continue vaping without relapsing back to cigs - and - I started to enjoy the taste and vapor production of my ejuices.
I am really picky about my ejuice and have tried so many vendors in search of something delicious to keep me vaping.
I am brand new to NT, vaping my first tank brand new. I would not be chiming in here if I didn't mean what I'm saying. I'm already sold across the board.
I can say with sincerity, this juice is awesome, fried in awesome and wrapped with a little awesome bow. Clean, high quality juice - very reasonably priced.
I keep a bottle or two of 24mg around just in case, but I haven't touched it in a while.
It's my experience that the higher the nicotine content the harsher (translates to peppery to me) the flavors are and depending on what you like to vape (at least for me) peppery doesn't play nicely with most flavors.
Even if you decide not to buy NT juice - try a bottle of 18mg anyway, at least to compare.
Also, on a higher end devices the delivery system is more efficient and the bump down to 18mg is rather moot.
Welcome, and good luck! Hope you decide to try some NT
It really is worth it. P.S. I read your post regarding High Brow - that's the vendor I purchased from at the same time I placed my NT order. Yup, it's decent juice indeed. Better than I've tried in a while. Here's the difference for me - the flavor and vapor production. In comparable flavors (I bought basically the same from both) NT beats HB hands down.
I've placed 3 NT orders in as many days and that's something I never do -lol
I've placed 3 NT orders in as many days and that's something I never do -lol
24mg? I get a headache just thinking of that high of a nicotine level. Taking everything into consideration, Id lower my nic just for the fact that nicotine really isnt good for you long-term at that high of a dosage. To each their own though. Whatever gets you through the day, DO THAT!
Flavored, I grew up in Johnson City, been to Chattanooga before. Seems like I see lots of vapors on here from my homeland. I wish I'd see some from the area I'm in now so I could have a friend to vape with
I lived in Knoxville for a while and dated a guy in Chattanooga. Good times but Texas is home for me.
Hate to mention tobacco but...Knoxville has a killer hookah bar. I wish we had an identical establishment up here but e-hookahs or something instead of tobacco
Heya Lord Vaako! Welcome to the NuT house
I actually answered this very question a few days ago so I will link it, but I am happy to field additional questions, etc.
http://www.e-cigarette-forum.com/forum/nicoticket/572000-hit-quit-wakonda-sr-17.html#post13582495
The justification MKR presented above is true, also - pre-steeping and managing inventory for another dozen SKUs is a challenge, especially for a product that (to be honest) didn't sell that well. Before we took down 24mg first we assessed how much we sold... and we also looked at the people that bought and their subsequent purchasing patterns. The people who were drawn initially to 24mg fell into two categories... either they didn't order again or the moved down to 18mg relatively quickly. We haven't really polled the people who didn't order again, but it was an "aberration" for us because our retention rate is extremely high. If you compare the total number of orders to the number of customers we have actually touched, the average number of orders across my entire book of business is over FIVE. Statistically, if you try us, you're likely to place a subsequent order... but that didn't seem to happen with 24mg vapers. Strange, right?
I'm shooting from the hip, but my feeling is this... "If you want to ruin a perfectly good bottle of liquid, put 24mg of nicotine in it." Now, I totally understand some people prefer more (one of my best buds on Nu-Vapor, one of our regular contributers, is a DIY'er named Hawk who has never actually placed an order on the website, and vapes nothing but 33mg because that's what he has determined works for him). I totally get it - some people need more and I don't knock that at all... but I wager the transition to 18mg will be easier than you think... especially if we can talk turkey about deliver devices. Shoot - I'll even toss loan you a dripper with a pre-build coil that will make you a believer...
If I had my choice, I would make 0, 3, and 6. No 12, no 18.
I'm started out and am still transitioning from being 24mg vaper. I keep some 24mg on hand for when I NEED it. I've been smoke free for 2 months today after a habit that lasted 22years and ended at 2.5 pad on average. Chances are that you're not going to notice the difference. I say this from experience. Sure it's a security blanket, and that's exactly why I keep some cheap 24mg juice on hand. I even have an extreme emergency bottle of 36mg nic just in case. Anything, in my book, is better than resorting back to the cigs. I mainly use kayfuns, russian 91% and yes I also drip 18mg. I'm an addict, but you know what? I'm not smoking. The 18mg is more than enough 99% of the time. Especially dripping it.
The flavors and quality of NT are worth taking the chance. I've tried a lot of juice makers in the last 60 or so days. I mean a lot. At least 25 of the more notable makers, I've got a frickin closet full. NT ranks somewhere in the top 3 easily from flavor alone. The prices and customer service kick them up to my number one spot. Try what I do, and just keep the security blanket around. You don't have to make the transition all at once. It's seriously worth it.
The flavors and quality of NT are worth taking the chance. I've tried a lot of juice makers in the last 60 or so days. I mean a lot. At least 25 of the more notable makers, I've got a frickin closet full. NT ranks somewhere in the top 3 easily from flavor alone. The prices and customer service kick them up to my number one spot. Try what I do, and just keep the security blanket around. You don't have to make the transition all at once. It's seriously worth it.
Taste
At that level nic does interact with the flavours - in many cases not favourably. Means reworking the whole mixing ratios. Seems not all vendors/makers are prepared to do so.
Pricing
Nicotine is the most expensive ingredient. So they have the best margin on zero nic. Now, you can go and confuse your clients with tons of different prices for different nic levels - along with the internal hassle - or you do a mix calculation for your range of available levels.
Going as high as 24 might result in overpricing your low-level stuff.
Regulation
EU's upcoming regs put a cap on 20 mg/ml. Many vendors voluntarily stick to that limit already.
There's a way over all these three 'hurdles' :
DIY
At that level nic does interact with the flavours - in many cases not favourably. Means reworking the whole mixing ratios. Seems not all vendors/makers are prepared to do so.
Pricing
Nicotine is the most expensive ingredient. So they have the best margin on zero nic. Now, you can go and confuse your clients with tons of different prices for different nic levels - along with the internal hassle - or you do a mix calculation for your range of available levels.
Going as high as 24 might result in overpricing your low-level stuff.
Regulation
EU's upcoming regs put a cap on 20 mg/ml. Many vendors voluntarily stick to that limit already.
There's a way over all these three 'hurdles' :
DIY
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