Why the ego c twist is a game changer

[Drip Drops]

Is it 100% safe to use a KGO charger with the Twists? Can somebody please confirm. I have read both yes and no answers, but I have 2 KGO chargers already and want to get a couple fo twists. Wouldn't want to burn the house down, or fry out a battery, but $15 seems to be kinda steep for a charger for a $20 battery, when I already have 2 KGO chargers.


Also Boge 2.0 or 3.0 for the Twists?

 

[John D in CT]

Is it 100% safe to use a KGO charger with the Twists? Can somebody please confirm. I have read both yes and no answers, but I have 2 KGO chargers already and want to get a couple fo twists. Wouldn't want to burn the house down, or fry out a battery, but $15 seems to be kinda steep for a charger for a $20 battery, when I already have 2 KGO chargers.


Also Boge 2.0 or 3.0 for the Twists?

Above:

Iffy: "..... as long as the charger is an eGo 420 mA (milliamp), you're GTG!"

Me: "Quite right Iffy, thanks for snapping me out of "genuine joyetech" mode. I do not work for Joyetech, honest!

As long as your charger is putting out 4.2 volts DC at 420mA (milliamps) - or .42 amps - you should be good to go. Save the $15 bucks for an ounce of juice!"

Also above:

"I believe [the Twist's] amp rating is around 2.5, meaning that you can power, for example, single coils between 2.0 and 3.0 ohms, which is what I would recommend, and keep the amp draw between maybe 2.3 and 1.6 respectively. The 3.0 ohm coil will give you better battery life because of the lower amp draw".

With 3.0's you'll get a maximum of about 8 watts to the coil, which might be a little marginal for some users and some juices. I tend to prefer the Boge 2.0's - which tend to run closer to 2.2 ohms anyway - for a wider range of wattages at the expense of battery life, which is still fine IMO at the lower resistance.

 

[MadKat]

Is it 100% safe to use a KGO charger with the Twists? Can somebody please confirm. I have read both yes and no answers, but I have 2 KGO chargers already and want to get a couple fo twists. Wouldn't want to burn the house down, or fry out a battery, but $15 seems to be kinda steep for a charger for a $20 battery, when I already have 2 KGO chargers.


Also Boge 2.0 or 3.0 for the Twists?

I ordered an ego charger and found it's the exact same thing as my kgo charger

 

[magentaman]

I ordered an ego charger and found it's the exact same thing as my kgo charger

I like to have almost as many charges as batteries. I have been bit once when the only charger I had bit the dust. Long story and it has to do with the over priced under quality "mall" e cigs.

 

[HawkeyeFLA]

I like to have almost as many charges as batteries. I have been bit once when the only charger I had bit the dust. Long story and it has to do with the over priced under quality "mall" e cigs.

My next online order or B&M visit is going include getting an extra charger.

 

[junkman]

That said, there is going to still be a need for these high end devices. I know that a not insigificant percentage of this community vape above 5V or at 6V. But, If things go as I think they are gonna go, basically economics says that the twist is going to pressure the high end by taking away potential users. And sadly, we may see some of these high end mods go by the wayside simply because it doesn't make economic sense to keep producing them. Those high end devices that survive are going to have to do it either at a lower price point or by providing additional benefits and features to justify an additional $100 or $150.


Regards, Dan

This would be true, except, I believe the pool of potential buyers is growing so fast that it will outstrip this effect. In other words, Provari can continue to charge the same $$, capture a smaller % of the market, and still grow in units sold and profits.

The game changer that I see right now is the DNA20 board which is going to be showing up in a lot of places, and will force more competition among mod builders - if Evolve can supply it like they seem to indicate they will.

 

[Rocketpunk]

I'm awfully late into this thread, but I skipped the Twist entirely when I saw the Hoosier E Cigs Kgo VV. Whoever said early in this thread that being able to change the voltage in .1 increments, as well as see your battery charge, was right. And I've known two hardcore vapers who gave their Twists away once they got their Kgo VVs.

 

[JBnuggs]

Love this analogy! I'm sold on getting a Twist. I've been using and eGo with some carto tanks, a Kanger T2 and some CE4's....I love the thing and the Twist seems like everything I love about the eGo but even better! I'm surely a Honda Civic type so this should fit me perfectly

 

[Winemiller1]

I just bought 2 x 650 twists, and can't wait

 

[Rocketpunk]

Hah hah, not long after I made that post in October, I bought one (Twist).

I freaking LOVE it. Wonderful purchase! Much better build quality and consistency, and a decent battery life.

On the other end, my Kgo VV ended up being a cheaply made piece of crap. It barely holds a charge, the charge port is messed up, and it just looks... ugly... now (I broke one button and ordered a replacement. Wrapped that one around with scotch tape just to make sure).

I feel embarrassed for looking down my nose at the Twist.

Especially since I'm a low-voltage vaper. 3.8 with my LR 2.0 ohm cartos and I'm just fine.

 

[dham340]

Ha. Great to see this thread is still around, although I haven't been here in a while.

So an update: since I first started this thread, I've used nothing but twists - 4 of them to be exact - every day. But, sadly down to my last functioning one (which is fine for $25 they worked most of 2012 but now 2 won't charge and one has stripped threads). I still think the twist is hands down the best value in vaping for anyone but especially newbies. Combined with a stardust type clearomizer or a vivi nova, one hell of a set up.

That said, since I am down to my last working twist, I ordered a provari last night. Finally pulled the plug. Figured the $50+ I would have to spend to get a few new twists was better spent investing in a mod that should last more than a year. Just got the shipping email tonight so should have it soon.

I was really hoping to get a DNA board mod but suspect 2013/14 will be the year of the DNA.

 

[Rocketpunk]

How long is the battery life for a Twist?

Am I suddenly realizing this thing will be junked in less than a year?!

 

[graybuck]

Battery life will depend on charge cycles. I have been rotating three Vision Spinners and two Twists and have had not issues with any of them for 3 months now.

 

[mariahpoo]

I don't want to spoil the party here but the only people who are so price sensitive is outright newbies. Once you realize how cheap it is to vape, the thousands of dollars you can save a year with it, then $50 or $100 or even $200 becomes much less meaningful. In fact a lot of vapers go crazy here and end up with a table full of expensive mods.

Now if we think back to when we first started vaping, spending a couple of hundred bucks or more on a PV seemed pretty far out. Then we realized that it wasn't so crazy after all.

I started with an ego and to be honest I ended up hating the stuff and giving it away to someone, who I then felt sorry for. New people don't know the difference maybe but if they start out with a crappy PV then they are less likely to stick with it. I would not recommend egos a through z to anyone.

Sure, being able to twist it and change the voltage certainly can't hurt. This is however not what we would consider a good VV device, which you can change the voltage in small increments. Small increments can make all the difference by the way.

You can get actual VV devices so cheaply now that there is no reason for anyone not to start out with a good one, unless you are on a super tight budget. However, just by cutting down on smoking you can pay for several good ones in no time at all.

It wouldn't hurt I guess for someone to buy a couple of ego-c batteries, and you do need at least two of these, but the expectation is that if they stick with vaping and once they realize what else is out there for not a lot more money, they will be putting away the egos. So I'd recommend that people start out higher on the food chain, egos are the eels of the PV world really, the bottom suckers

I am going to have to politely disagree. I have been vaping over a year and still just use a regular ego... I mean I now have a clearo and I am going to purchase a twist very soon... but my point is not everyone needs a vv mod. My brother is the same as me. I know you get a sweeter spot or bigger hits with a mod. MAYBE someday I will get myself one. but I do not long for something better. I LOVE my ego. Why not try it with vv? Having the option right away would have been very nice.

BTW I got I recently got 3 ego kits and 3 successful (for the most part only FIL is still in transition) converts. They all love them. And I ask them if they feel like there is anything else they want or need and show them reviews and vids of other mods... but none of them are interested. To most new vapors a vv mod is WAY too much to handle or grasp. The jurney is different for everyone. Just because You may have had to jump into the deep end, so to speak, to get the result you were after does not mean most new vapors are going to have your same needs. In fact to me a cig-alike joye 510 was what I needed to start my journey. The ego was even too much from me. Not in price... but just overload of change. For all new vapors it is what make them most comfortable and give the most satisfaction. So what if they jump from pv to pv to find the right fit... as you put it we would be spending the money on cigs anyway. And then they can have stuff to give to would be converts and/ or have back up devices. It's all a win win. You know! I believe that one you start vaping part of the fun is the journey of trying different things! Which BTW I am not against trying mods. I just don't feel an urge for them. lol You know?

 

[mtw4shore]

It may have already been said, but I don't have time to read 11+ pages. The major advantage I see to having a higher end battery like a Provari or in my case a Vtube is the batteries can be changed much easier and cheaper. My replacement battery runs $8.00, not $30.

 

[Racehorse]

I love the size and feel of Ego Twists. I have other stuff but they are sort of like an old comfortable sweater or jeans that just feels comfy and gives a nice vape in general.

I guess I dont' understand and never will, all this competitive posting about higher end/lower end stuff. It's like lawnmowers or motor vehicles or tools.......people have preferences.

It doesn't matter what things cost, or what the bells and whistles are.

For certain people, an Ego Twist IS the bomb. For others, not.

I don't understand mini 510s but I can assure you, there are people who love love love them and will not even move to a fatter batt.

 

[EddardinWinter]

I have to agree with Mariah on this issue. I started with a 510 cigarette lookalike, then went to an ego T, then to an ego twist with Kanger T2's. Every step I made I understood what everyone was raving about and am glad my tastes have evolved with my device. However, while I could have afforded a Provari to start, I needed to transition up gradually. Most likely when my eGo twists start to fail me (or sooner) I will probably upgrade to a "high end" device. Plus, if I get myself one, my girlfriend is gonna want one, too. So now I need 400 dollars worth of hardware to make the jump.

But taking a cheaper VV device to the beach, or with me when I ski, or when I am traveling may make sense even after I upgrade. A 200 dollar Provari is not something I will take everywhere I go. I also kinda like my older models to give to prospects and converts. I gave away my old 510 kit and now that owner has upgraded to an eGo twist and given the 510 to his brother, who now uses it instead of analogs. The journey is as important as the destination, sometimes.

 

[EddardinWinter]

How long is the battery life for a Twist?

Am I suddenly realizing this thing will be junked in less than a year?!

I would never expect a battery to last much more than a year. The stripped threads sounds like that may be a user issue. So his battery failure rate at one year is 50%. Not too bad at all, really. One of the benefits of a Provari is the batteries are separate items and you need only replace them for 8-9 bucks as you lose them, which is a very manageable cost of maintaining the device.

I read about people replacing wicks and coils and what not on here, but I don't ever do that. I just have a device with a replaceable coil which I put a fresh one in every ten days or so for less than 2 bucks. I realize that if I stick with an eGo twist setup, I need to plan on buying a battery every 25 weeks or so, which is about $1 a week, which is right in line with my coil replacement costs.

 

[dham340]

based on my experience, a twist should last you at least a year maybe longer . I am very hard on my batteries.

the stripped threads is my fault . although that particular battery did come kind of warped 510 connection . I should have returned it but didn't . one disadvantage of ego is that are mass produced so you are going to get a dud every now and then .

if course ymmv

 

[JudeD]

I own a bunch of different PV's including a Provari, but my Twists are the PVs I use most of the time. They are light, easy to hold, produce a lot of vapor, and with a Stardust, they are my go-to PV. I recommend them more often than any other PV to potential vapers.