Why the ego c twist is a game changer

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John D in CT

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when the V2 provari came out it was called a game changer too,,now the ego twist is being called a game changer,,next improved thing to come out will be a game changer also..

do you see the trend here ?? i do

I'm not sure why the ProVari V2 would be called a "game changer". It's arguably the highest-quality variable voltage APV on the planet, but it is just that - a high-quality variable voltage APV.

The Twist can IMO be more rightly called a game changer because it is the first variable voltage device I know of in the eGo form factor. A stealth vaper's dream come true, and a slam dunk for a lot of beginners who tend to shy away from larger devices.

I also disagree that the next improved thing to come out will be a game changer. IMO, to rightly be called a game changer, the device must actually change the game.

Here are a few candidates for game-changing devices:

The eGo-class battery.

Rebuildable atomizers like the Odysseus and Bulli.

The variable-wattage Darwin.

Maybe bottom-feeders like the Reo family, now/soon in VV.

A future APV that offers both variable wattage and variable voltage.

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One trend that I do see is a tendancy for people to resist change and be disinclined to give credit where credit is due.
 
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there aren't any ego batteries other than this one that's 1000 mAh though, right? So how would an ego charger be a better choice? I'm confused :(

There are non-Twist Joyetech "batteries" that are 1000mah, but the choice of charger is generally not dictated by the capacity of the battery. I believe you use the same charger for all Joyetech eGo batteries whether they're 650, 900, or 1000 mah.

To me, it just makes good sense to use a genuine Joyetech charger with genuine Joyetech batteries.

The only Joyetech product I know of that does not work with the regular Joyetech charger that's used with Twist and non-Twist Joyetech batteries is the Joyetch 501 passthrough that requires more ampacity because the "charger" powers the coil dirctly, as opposed to simply charging the battery. With the 501 passthrough, the "charger" would more correctly be referred to as a "power supply" IMO. The 501 passthrough uses a hard-wired cord, and might not even use a battery at all.
 
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Can I use my KGo charger for the ego c twist battery? I'm looking at the 1000 mAh

Not to undermine John D, but as long as the charger is an eGo 420mAh, you're GTG!
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John D, I do agree with your 'game changer' observations!
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Not to undermine John D, but as long as the charger is an eGo 420mAh, you're GTG!
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John D, I do agree with your 'game changer' observations!
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Quite right Iffy, thanks for snapping me out of "genuine Joyetech" mode. I do not work for Joyetech, honest! :)

As long as your charger is putting out 4.2 volts DC at 420mA (milliamps) - or .42 amps - you should be good to go. Save the $15 bucks for an ounce of juice!
 

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I've been vaping a year and 4 months now. Before I bought anything I read on the web for a few weeks, trying to decide if vaping would work for me and what gear to get. I had smoked for 55 yrs and the last 20 of them 2 cartons a week.

The first year I vaped Ego T's moving to C's when they arrived. Cheaper to replace the atomizer head than pitch the whole body. Batteries lasted well had a mix of regular and pass thru batteries, no 650mah, only higher.

Then I found vaping channels on the net. Was instantly exposed to 'mods' or apv's as some would prefer to call them, so I started investigating those. Now I own 5 SB's, 1 Helix (for vaping at 3.7), 4 Provaris, and 3 ego C Twist 1000 mah batteries. I also have some ego C rigs complete with their A type carts that I use when I want to carry one in a shirt pocket. Oh yeah, and one of the new version chrome look Lava Tubes which has a sticky button/misfire problem and sits on the shelf most of the time. That one is a replacement for the first one that only fired 1 out of 10 times. No more LT's.

Most of my PV's wear carto tanks. I have some Smoketech tanks both sizes, small with a sleeve for ego's, large for SB's and Provari's some Phiniac glass tanks for SB's (they fit them better than the Provaris). I have a RATank (rebuildable atomizer over a supply tank) sits on a Provari, a bunch of kanger horizontal coil cartos for a change from tanks, and the dripping attys.

In the last 6 months or so I started to make my own juice, bought the Twists to drip on to taste new batches in progress. Using a twist with a LR 1.5 debridged atomizer and drip shield lets me build my juice and taste at the 3.2 to 3.7 range for the SB's and Helix and at the 4.2 to 4.4 volts I like to vape at in the Provaris in tanks holding dccs at 1.5. Not all juices are heat friendly, I've found, but I love the warm vapor. Some flavors do best at 3.7 some higher. I'm also vaping at 4mg nic now.

I think the twists are perfect for starting new vapers on. I've helped quite a number in the time I've been vaping already, I started them on ego's, T's before the C's arrived and then told them as their T atty's die to replace them with C's. Now that the Twists have arrived I'm starting newbies on them with C attys and bodies until they get the hang of it. So far, from experience, ego's seem to be a slam dunk for the new vapers to start on. Easy to use, T's were moderately frustrating to clean properly, C's are easier.

I will never go back to tobacco cigarettes. Vaping is a lung and life saver, I'm convinced.

Vape what you like on what you like. Your taste buds are the ones you have to please, not anyone elses ;)
 
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And she's not as bad as I may have made it out to be.

Brad, I haven't known you to understate ANYTHING... until now!

For da rest of ya'll, da Bum is a big huggy bear that does shoot straight and from da hip, aka no BS. BUT, his lovey bride does have his total attention when necessary!

<Rut roh, I'm in some deep snit now!>

BTW, happy Daddy's Day!
 

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I have been using a twist for about 2 weeks now and love it. Bought a 2nd one last week and also purchased a Smoktec DCT to try (I have been using the ego tanks and clearomizers so far, nothing else). I must be doing something wrong - I filled the tank and was careful not to get any juice down the center and I cannot get anything from it when it is screwed into the 510 connection. It is as if the air flow is almost totally blocked and I really have to drag HARD to get the slightest vape at all. I put it up and gave up, went back to my clearo's and tanks and assumed I wasted my money. Has anyone else had this problem? Is it a defective DCT or am I missing a step somewhere?
 

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I have been using a twist for about 2 weeks now and love it. Bought a 2nd one last week and also purchased a Smoktec DCT to try (I have been using the ego tanks and clearomizers so far, nothing else). I must be doing something wrong - I filled the tank and was careful not to get any juice down the center and I cannot get anything from it when it is screwed into the 510 connection. It is as if the air flow is almost totally blocked and I really have to drag HARD to get the slightest vape at all. I put it up and gave up, went back to my clearo's and tanks and assumed I wasted my money. Has anyone else had this problem? Is it a defective DCT or am I missing a step somewhere?


Just curious - did the carto in your tank have pre-punched holes in it?
 

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Just curious - did the carto in your tank have pre-punched holes in it?

This is pretty funny; when I first read that, I immediately said "of course, that's it! The carto must not have any holes or slots in it!" ..... and then I realized that neither do cartos that aren't being used in tanks. So much for that explaining the tight draw.

To me, that leaves:

A) Carto clogged with juice (I know you said you thought you avoided that) or
B) Defective carto w/ non-functioning/clogged air vents.

What brand/resistance/# of coils cartos are you using? And have you tried a different carto, or just the one?

I have to say, I can't recall ever getting a carto that I could not draw through when new. Are your cartos pre-punched with one or more holes? If so, maybe just try another one and seewhat happens. You don't even have to empty the tank; just push the new one in from the top. That will work whether the carto is flanged or not. Then slowly drip juice into the carto until it starts coming out of the 510 connection. Not all at once, but slowly, like 10 drops at a time maybe a minute apart, and maybe about 25-30 drops total.
 

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This is pretty funny; when I first read that, I immediately said "of course, that's it! The carto must not have any holes or slots in it!" ..... and then I realized that neither do cartos that aren't being used in tanks. So much for that explaining the tight draw.

To me, that leaves:

A) Carto clogged with juice (I know you said you thought you avoided that) or
B) Defective carto w/ non-functioning/clogged air vents.

What brand/resistance/# of coils cartos are you using? And have you tried a different carto, or just the one?

I have to say, I can't recall ever getting a carto that I could not draw through when new. Are your cartos pre-punched with one or more holes? If so, maybe just try another one and seewhat happens. You don't even have to empty the tank; just push the new one in from the top. That will work whether the carto is flanged or not. Then slowly drip juice into the carto until it starts coming out of the 510 connection. Not all at once, but slowly, like 10 drops at a time maybe a minute apart, and maybe about 25-30 drops total.

Yes this is a Smoktek prepunched DCT. Here is the info from the vendor's web site where I purchased:

How to refill ejuice?
1. Take the drip tip away from the pre-punched cartomizer
2. Drop ejuice inside the pre-punched cartomizer
3. Pull pre-punched cartomizer down
4. Drop ejuice inside the tube
5. Pull pre-punched cartomizer back
6. Put drop tip back on the pre-punched cartomizer

Unit includs:
1pc Pre-Punched LR (1.5-2.0 ohm) Dual Coil XL Cartomizer
1pc Clear Transparent Drip Tip
1pc Clear Tube including Cap

The tube is clear of any juice, if I un-screw it from the battery, you can draw air easily through the tube with no obstruction.
 

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Yes this is a Smoktek prepunched DCT. Here is the info from the vendor's web site where I purchased:

How to refill ejuice?
1. Take the drip tip away from the pre-punched cartomizer
2. Drop ejuice inside the pre-punched cartomizer
3. Pull pre-punched cartomizer down
4. Drop ejuice inside the tube
5. Pull pre-punched cartomizer back
6. Put drop tip back on the pre-punched cartomizer

Unit includs:
1pc Pre-Punched LR (1.5-2.0 ohm) Dual Coil XL Cartomizer
1pc Clear Transparent Drip Tip
1pc Clear Tube including Cap

The tube is clear of any juice, if I un-screw it from the battery, you can draw air easily through the tube with no obstruction.

OK -

First, are we talking "Smoktek" the vendor, or "Smoktech" the manufacturer? I've never heard of the problem you're having with "Smoktech" cartomizers - which is not to say it hasn't happened or can't happen - but I'm wondering if maybe "Smoktek" the vendor got hold of some poorly-designed or poorly-manufactured cartomizers that don't have proper air vents in them so that they won't draw correctly when screwed onto your Twist.

Second, you should not be using dual coil cartomizers with your Twist. IMO you should be using single coil XL-size stainless steel cartomizers in the 2.0 to 2.5 ohm range. I like the Boge 2.0 ohm single coils that can be had from either of these two vendors:

Crystal Clear Vaping

Boge Mix n Match (5 Boxes) .92 each

So that I can further investigate your problem (which should disappear if you use the Boge cartos with a Smoktech 3.5ml DCT tank), could you please provide the actual link to the vendor's site? Thanks.
 
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