Wick and Coil Tips and Tricks.

[the ob]

I thought it would be nice if there was one concise thread that dealt specifically with tips and tricks to using and making wicks and coils for the rebuildable atomizer and genesis systems.

There are so many different techniques to doing these things, and it would be nice for all the information to be in one spot.

 

[the ob]

GENESIS ATOMISER EASY COIL SET UP USING A CIGARETTE PAPER - YouTube

here goes. first one.

 

[the ob]

and another.........

this is called "the jack frost" method. Created by someone who lives in the UK.

Its funny how you think you've got something nailed, try something else and realise just how wrong you were. Well the other day I made my best wick yet and had a desire to share the love . Thing is I had started to think (fairly rare, I grant you) about what was going on with the oxidisation of the stainless steel in a genesis wick. Now I know that its a topic that has had a lot of posts/videos etc already but I was still having trouble. Heating and quenching many times, even to the point of having the wick start to break up, still resulted in a short when measured on the multimeter. I was beginning to try different water for the quenching when it occurred to me that the quenching wasn't likely to be doing much for the oxidisation process and was just hardening the wick. So I cut a strip 30mm wide and attacked it with the blow torch before rolling. Didn't bother to quench it, just kept heating both sides until I got no continuity over the width. Then I rolled the wick after cutting a piece from the strip, slapped a coil round it without bothering to anneal the Kanthal (didn't even get it that tight) and fitted it. That was it ....no shorts...no hotspots...nothing except a fog of vapour!! Incidentally I was getting some fluctuating readings until I stopped using the points of the probes and used the sides, must have been cutting through the oxide layer and getting to conductive material underneath. Anyway if this helps someone I will be overjoyed, now if anyone has any tips on how to improve the flavour of 100% VG ....

 

[the ob]

btw,
just tried the cigarette paper method (I had some from about 20 years ago in a drawer) and I have to say it works quite well.

 

[rober36]

I agree with the paper trick, the best tip I have come across yet. Has worked everytime so far for me.

 

[Bmays]

Great thread, Please be sure to give Jackfrost credit for his ideas though. Not mentioning any other forums...
Also, depending on which device you may have (Orion) the addition of a PTFE insert is almost a must to prevent hotspots.

 

[the ob]

changed. I am sorry, I did not mean to make that seem like it was my idea.

I do not have any original ideas

 

[wolcen]

What I've done on a Stardust:
- Wrap coils on a small, medium/tight-pitch screw (5 or 6 wraps for me). I've been using NiChrome 80 @ 34 guage for about 3 ohms.
- Thread through some twisted up strands of cheese cloth. I do it with strands rather than "rolling" cloth. Using extra long strands, about 1-1/2 - 2 doz of them (they are easy to pull apart after making a ~2.5"x2.5" single-ply square). Use however many can be threaded through easily when twisted tightly)
- Boil (I actually just hold the long ends while submerging the mid section in a mug of microwave-boiled water. Seems to be enough to kill any off taste from oils on the fingers/etc, but may not be safe for those that can't flip food on a skilled with their fingers!)
- Install and then trim to the desired length
- Soak in juice and enjoy.
Pretty clean flavor straight away.

 

[Turbo]

Then there's 'petar k's non oxidized version. It basically involves wrapping the coil around a 2mm screw then sliding the wick in, which is just briefly gone over w/ a lighter (not fully oxidized).

I haven't tried it but some say it works well. I think the cigarette paper is best for those having trouble w/ shorts imho.

 

[Bmays]

changed. I am sorry, I did not mean to make that seem like it was my idea.

I do not have any original ideas

I dont either, and when I do I find out I was CRAZY for trying that.....

 

[Bmays]

GENESIS ATOMISER EASY COIL SET UP USING A CIGARETTE PAPER - YouTube

here goes. first one.

I personally believe this is by far the best idea to hit genisis attys to date. I cant wait to get another genisis to try this on.

 

[the ob]

I personally believe this is by far the best idea to hit genisis attys to date. I cant wait to get another genisis to try this on.

tried it today. works quite well.

 

[Cyrus Vap]

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[Cyrus Vap]

Then there's 'petar k's non oxidized version. It basically involves wrapping the coil around a 2mm screw then sliding the wick in, which is just briefly gone over w/ a lighter (not fully oxidized).

I haven't tried it but some say it works well. I think the cigarette paper is best for those having trouble w/ shorts imho.

so why does this end up working, I wonder, if its truly not oxidized?

 

[redgirl]

Bookmarked for when I get mine in! I have never used CE2s and have my first rebuildable coming in. It's kind of difficult to search around everywhere to get answers for things. I tried to read through the wick material thread, it's just too much. Anyone have a conclusion of what was gathered there as far as safest wick material and where to get it?

 

[the ob]

Bookmarked for when I get mine in! I have never used CE2s and have my first rebuildable coming in. It's kind of difficult to search around everywhere to get answers for things. I tried to read through the wick material thread, it's just too much. Anyone have a conclusion of what was gathered there as far as safest wick material and where to get it?

I think most here probably use SS mesh in our devices. What are you getting?

 

[redgirl]

I think most here probably use SS mesh in our devices. What are you getting?

An Ody. I saw some methods to wrap the material wick in SS, but I'd like to know what's safest to inhale: fiberglass, silica, cotton, bamboo, etc. I haven't even gotten the damn thing yet

 

[Cyrus Vap]

I don't think anyone knows, but my most educated guess is SS + cotton/bamboo

If nothing else, I can tell you that cotton outwicks silica by far, and tastes more pure once it breaks in. Costs pennies too.

Don't have an RBA yet though. Quigsworth has become quite the RBA + cotton guru, hopefully he'll chime in

 

[Arctherus]

Friends I am having terrible problems with getting shorts right at the end of the top of the coil. I have tried everything. Please help!

 

[Cyrus Vap]

I'm the same, 4X quenched in water, VG, juice, etc, until yesterday and today actually, been at this for weeks.

the cig paper worked, but it still tastes like crap and isn't wicking right or something. maybe air flow issues

the unoxidized method worked too, but same issue as above