Wick materials. Safe vs dangerous.

[PLANofMAN]

http://www.e-cigarette-forum.com/forum/health-safety-e-smoking/377764-dangers-silica-wicks-2.html
Not sure if this has been linked to in this thread or not, but we can now say with certainty that Silica wick is a safe wicking material. For those who skim threads, actually read the final posts.

 

[Shastazippy]

http://www.e-cigarette-forum.com/forum/health-safety-e-smoking/377764-dangers-silica-wicks-2.html
Not sure if this has been linked to in this thread or not, but we can now say with certainty that Silica wick is a safe wicking material. For those who skim threads, actually read the final posts.

Not sure why, but that link doesn't work on my Tapatalk.




Sent from my Tapatalk. Please excuse typos or ridiculous autocorrect issues

 

[TomCatt]

Works on the computer; I've had a lot of links not work with Tapatalk

Good info there. Still a cotton fanboy though

 

[wolcen]

Works on the computer; I've had a lot of links not work with Tapatalk

Good info there. Still a cotton fanboy though

Yep - it's reassuring info, and I don't worry so much about my friends all using silica now, but I'm definitely sticking to cotton.

Works outstanding and is less harsh on my throat, and I notice a dry hit getting close easier with cotton than I do with silica.

 

[Quigsworth]

http://www.e-cigarette-forum.com/forum/health-safety-e-smoking/377764-dangers-silica-wicks-2.html
Not sure if this has been linked to in this thread or not, but we can now say with certainty that Silica wick is a safe wicking material. For those who skim threads, actually read the final posts.

Good link (and some good info, thanks)...I'm in the same camp as TC and Wolcen...Silica doesn't really freak me out that much, I've admitted many times here that I still occasionally use it (and ceramic) if only for flavour rendition (some of my juices just don't taste good on organics)...but most do, I find that the bamboo (still my fav) adds an earthy warmth to the overall experience of the flavour that silica or ceramic just can't...I liken it to the sound difference between an acoustic and an electric guitar...I just find mineral based wick kind of sterile, kind of industrial tasting (if that makes any sense) for the typical juices I like...but it's all about personal taste, I'm just happy that there are so many options out there...

 

[weisner]

I have tried the following:
Stainless - works ok for dripping, may be dangerous, don't like it for uses other than dripping.
Hemp - absorbant, wicks at a fair rate, funny taste even after boiling out multiple times, burn rate is best of all but SS.
Cotton - absorbant, wicks faster than hemp/slower than silica, burns really easy.
Silica - absorbant, wicks fast, may be dangerous.
Bamboo - absorbant, wicks faster than anything else I have tried, clean taste, burns faster than hemp but slower than cotton, can chain vape on this material so long as it is wet. Used it in my drunker build: http://www.e-cigarette-forum.com/fo...ers-mod-rebuild-fail-success.html#post8902610

Hands down BAMBOO is the thing for me!!!

The Bamboo used is:


Thank you all for this great discussion regarding all forms of wicking material and experimentation without you all I would still be in lost newbie land.

 

[oplholik]

It's no doubt been mentioned here along the way, but, can this bamboo be purchased at Wal-Mart, Michaels, Or Joanns?

 

[weisner]

It's no doubt been mentioned here along the way, but, can this bamboo be purchased at Wal-Mart, Michaels, Or Joanns?

I got it at Michael's, it was very inexpensive. I also purchased my hemp for testing there as well.

 

[chet]

In my experience hemp wicks much better than cotton, and especially for tanks with coils sitting on top like Vivi Nova hemp wicks perform superior to cotton and last longer. I did taste rope once a while but that's only when it's too dry or coils wrapped too tight on the wick.

 

[BJ43]

In my experience hemp wicks much better than cotton, and especially for tanks with coils sitting on top like Vivi Nova hemp wicks perform superior to cotton and last longer. I did taste rope once a while but that's only when it's too dry or coils wrapped too tight on the wick.

I agree but I have tried hemp from many sources and have only found the one with 12 strands to be excellent...

 

[weisner]

I agree but I have tried hemp from many sources and have only found the one with 12 strands to be excellent...

BJ43: it is due to your influence that I have taken the time to do some experimenting.
I wanted to take a little time to share with you my results.

I have tried:
Synthetic
Stainless steel
Hemp
Cotton
Bamboo

With guidance taken from you and others I found Bamboo to give me the best result.. It does burn easier than Hemp, wick faster, doesn't taint the flavor of my juices.

More info here: http://www.e-cigarette-forum.com/fo...ers-mod-rebuild-fail-success.html#post8902610

Thank you and all the active members of this thread for getting me and likely many other well informed.

 

[chet]

I agree but I have tried hemp from many sources and have only found the one with 12 strands to be excellent...

Right. I'm using the one from lovepedal which is 1mm with.. was it 7 strands? It's working great on Vivi Nova so far, but now I just started using bottom coil tanks from gotvapes so I'm about to test all the wick choices again.

 

[BJ43]

I also like the bamboo, but I chain vape and do double draws at around 10 watts, bamboo lasted two or three days and hemp lasts two weeks. On all my lab tests the 12 strand hemp out wicked all the others including bamboo by a lot. If bamboo is your preference, great, each should find what suits his style of vaping. It is incredible how vaping has evolved in the over 4 years I have been at it. Still look at my first PT I made from a tire valve with a 901 atty and a battery pack I strapped to my belt. At the time that was the best vaping for me.

BJ43: it is due to your influence that I have taken the time to do some experimenting.
I wanted to take a little time to share with you my results.

I have tried:
Synthetic
Stainless steel
Hemp
Cotton
Bamboo

With guidance taken from you and others I found Bamboo to give me the best result.. It does burn easier than Hemp, wick faster, doesn't taint the flavor of my juices.

More info here: http://www.e-cigarette-forum.com/fo...ers-mod-rebuild-fail-success.html#post8902610

Thank you and all the active members of this thread for getting me and likely many other well informed.

 

[BJ43]

Kwalka posted this on another thread: Interesting.
vapesquaddotcom
The Rest of the Story: Tobacco News Analysis and Commentary: New Study of Electronic Cigarette Vapor Confirms that E-Cigs are Much Safer than Regular Cigarettes

 

[Koman]

Kwalka posted this on another thread: Interesting.
vapesquaddotcom
The Rest of the Story: Tobacco News Analysis and Commentary: New Study of Electronic Cigarette Vapor Confirms that E-Cigs are Much Safer than Regular Cigarettes

Thanks for the link. Interesting stuff man!

 

[Drael]

IDK about that reporting on that study. Those are very low levels of formaldehyde, which is naturally occuring in the body, in some foods, and in exhaled human breath. The NOEL is apparently 600 something micrograms per m3, and each puff would contain what, at most, .3 mcgs? I am pretty sure thats less that what is naturally exhaled in human breath.

 

[Quigsworth]

As a guy that smoked a 1.5 to 2 packs a day since I was 15 (33+ years, I still cringe) I read these studies with their charts and math with passive curiosity all the way up to complete skepticism...I just go with how I feel...I've been vaping for almost 2 years now and I feel orders of magnitude better than when I smoked...I figured that if I kept smoking I was going to start significantly diminishing my enjoyment of life...it was already happening (being a smoker at 30 is way different than being a smoker at 45...it takes a long, steady toll)...and when I discovered this thread, the ill effects of my vaping about vanished (say what you want about how safe silica is, even though I still occasionally use it, my 98% switch to organics has been yet another major improvement to how I feel)...I think anyone that comes out with some study that states that vaping is "safe" is either a fanboy or a vendor (either/or are still ok with me but...)...vaping is about harm reduction. Vaping will never be as safe as living in a hermetically sealed biosphere, peeps just have to let it go...until the manufacturers of nicotine containing e-liquid pay as much tax and produce under the same level of scrutiny as big tobacco, there can be studies till the 2nd coming of christ stating that vaping is as safe as a bunny in bubblewrap...vaping will never gain any traction politically...that's what lobbyists are paid to do...

Nothing wrong with counting your chemical intake reduction, but tell me waking up in the morning without feeling like a truck parked on your chest all night isn't just as positive

 

[chet]

How about 'safe enough'

There're just way too many things out there that can never be called 'safe' in absolute sense. A well done steak carries many carcinogens and yet we don't mind calling it safe to eat. We can die from drinking too much water. I know I'm stretching it here but not many is ultimately safe in scientific term. I don't think that trace amount of formaldehyde in the analysis is significant enough to block us from calling safe. But I guess I still shouldn't claim it 'completely safe' when I convince my smoker friends.

 

[TomCatt]

Safe is always relative

From the MSDS (material safety data sheet) for SAND

Section 3: Hazards Identification
Potential Acute Health Effects: Slightly hazardous in case of skin contact (irritant), of eye contact (irritant), of ingestion, of
inhalation.

Potential Chronic Health Effects:
CARCINOGENIC EFFECTS: Classified 1 (Proven for human.) by IARC. Classified A2 (Suspected for human.) by ACGIH.
MUTAGENIC EFFECTS: Not available. TERATOGENIC EFFECTS: Not available. DEVELOPMENTAL TOXICITY: Not
available. The substance may be toxic to lungs, upper respiratory tract. Repeated or prolonged exposure to the substance can produce target organs damage.

 

[Quigsworth]

Safe is always relative

That's what I'm talking about...it also depends on where "safe" falls on your list of priorities...I get a kick out of one of my wife's friends...she only eats organic this and free range that, all smothered in anti-oxidants...and nukes herself in a tanning booth for an hour a week after her botox session...I mean come on!