Will the kayfun light work well with a high % of vg

[Thunderball]

I do 40/60 and also 30/70 (70 being VG) No problems. Heres my cotton wrap.... Note..mine is dry until I am finished.......My cotton goes across the juice channel and then back up over the side of the coil again (so no dry hits ever)....then clear air passage under coil.......Then drip, cap, fill and vape.

right or wrong.... has been working for me like a champ.

 

[Thunderball]

BTW, I use them on a Provari at 11 watts (again, depending on juice flavor) or on mechs -

Where did you get a ProVari that has VW........... Fasttech must be cloning again..

 

[stylezuk]

So basically a loopy so feeds the opposite side of coil, good idea get the Light Plus next couple of days so that's what will try. Thx

 

[Thunderball]

So basically a loopy so feeds the opposite side of coil, good idea get the Light Plus next couple of days so that's what will try. Thx

Your quite welcome..

 

[spookyluke]

I think you just have just gotten lucky with using the perfect amount of wick, that swells up to cover up the wells. The vacuum in the tank is how the system works/prevents leaking.

I promise you. I said what I said because I know for fact it is correct. If you block the ports you'll get dry hits because the tank requires a exchange of air for liquid. When the tank is tilted this happens. As long as the ports are not covered.
Did I use the perfect amount of cotton? Maybe. Was it just luck. NO.

 

[suspectK]

I think you just have just gotten lucky with using the perfect amount of wick, that swells up to cover up the wells. The vacuum in the tank is how the system works/prevents leaking.

I promise you. I said what I said because I know for fact it is correct. If you block the ports you'll get dry hits because the tank requires a exchange of air for liquid. When the tank is tilted this happens. As long as the ports are not covered.
Did I use the perfect amount of cotton? Maybe. Was it just luck. NO.

I think "in my experience" would work better in your response, rather than stating that it's a fact.

I don't tip it, if I'm not laying down..as long as I'm not inverting it a long time while hitting it, I never get dry hits either.

 

[spookyluke]

I think "in my experience" would work better in your response, rather than stating that it's a fact.

I don't tip it, if I'm not laying down..as long as I'm not inverting it a long time while hitting it, I never get dry hits either.

sorry I should've used "according to science, physics, fluid dynamics. .. this reality" LoLz. If the air can't get through one of the ports then the liquid can't through the other. It's displacement. it's quite simple to understand. Maybe I'm just really bad at explaining. If both ports are covered by saturated wick the air can't get through to allow the displacement.

 

[spookyluke]

Sorry if I come across as arrogant. Just wanted to share my understanding of how it works, which is helpful when dealing with a higher vg mix

 

[Pensilac]

Stick the wick to the deck walls with the liquid to avoid blocking the holes. Air has to be able to escape out the liquid ports to balance the pressure in the tank. If the wick blocks the ports you create a vacuum. No air out equals no liquid in.

I did this the first 2 times I built my kfl+ and my wicks burnt within the first 5 pulls off it. I've had no issues since I started making sure that the ports are completely covered with the cotton, though not packed with it. Most of the juice I use in mine so far has been either 100% VG or a very high ratio of it.


When I build mine I put my cotton in, make sure it is as fluffed up as I can get it, put the base of the chimney on, and then lightly push the cotton down into the wells making sure that the cotton is cover both of the fill ports. I then juice up the wicks and assemble the rest of it. Doing it this way I find that it minimizes the chances of over compressing the cotton to the point that it doesn't wick properly, as can easily happen when trying to position the cotton properly when it is already juiced up.

When I first fill it I usually only fill it to around 75% using the fill port for the first tank, give it a few primer puffs, and then let it sit for around 5 minutes standing upright. After that it has been good to go every time and I haven't had any burnt cotton or dry hits, flooding, or any other issues with it since building it this way. The flavor is great and I can produce some pretty decent vapor with it even at very low voltage settings on my Provari.

 

[spookyluke]

well I guess the general concensus is that my advice is wrong. I'm a troll. I'm drunk. I don't actually own a R91 and if my wick wasn't imaginary it would be burnt after 5 draws. Thankyou thankyou, you've been a great audience.

 

[Gimpy1261]

well I guess the general concensus is that my advice is wrong. I'm a troll. I'm drunk. I don't actually own a R91 and if my wick wasn't imaginary it would be burnt after 5 draws. Thankyou thankyou, you've been a great audience.

You are both correct, in the way you build your kayfun, I know because you both said so, and I believe you.

 

[bustabo]

well I guess the general concensus is that my advice is wrong. I'm a troll. I'm drunk. I don't actually own a R91 and if my wick wasn't imaginary it would be burnt after 5 draws. Thankyou thankyou, you've been a great audience.

Dude relax. As long as your device works who cares how its done.

IN MY EXPERIENCE I get a much better vape if I push my wick against the outter edge of the chamber wall right above the juice channels. Thicker juice will not flow into the chamber and onto the deck as much as a real thin juice.

Do I jam the wick into the channels? No that would not work, but I do make sure they are covered. Air still gets thru. It doesn't seal it off from air.

I know this because I have clear chambers and watch what happens. Some juices will not even hit the wick if its not above the channels, like the 100%,VG WTA liquid I vape.

My wife's 70/30 is so watery and flows so well I can roll a tight cotton wick and put it as far from the channels as possible and it still vapes well....

With my juice and the same exact coil as hers I need to have a really fluffy-non dense wick and carefully have to make sure the ends of the wick end right at and against the channels, I can't even just lay them across, or it won't wick... Chimney coil with my WTA liquid?? YEAH RIGHT. not even a chance, does not wick, yet I empty and put my wife's in without changing a thing else and it works perfect.

Again I was able to physically watch the juices flow up onto the deck, anyone having issues should hit up FastTech and spend 6$ on the clear tank and chamber and try and see what's happening on the inside till you see what works and what doesn't for your setups. Its a pretty cool thing to watch actually.

These kayfun have a bunch of factors involved into getting a consistent vape.... Nothing is "set in stone" and your way isn't the only way.

What works for one person may not work at all... Juice viscosity, wick length and density and diameter, coil height, coil wraps, coil ohms, coil surface area and so on.... All make a huge difference and some combos will not work, some will.

 

[spookyluke]

Haha I am relaxed. Except I have to keep replacing my cotton every five puffs ;-)

 

[suspectK]

sorry I should've used "according to science, physics, fluid dynamics. .. this reality" LoLz. If the air can't get through one of the ports then the liquid can't through the other. It's displacement. it's quite simple to understand. Maybe I'm just really bad at explaining. If both ports are covered by saturated wick the air can't get through to allow the displacement.

It's one thing to say it works for you, but it's another to change principles..

What's your altitude?

 

[fooey]

I use high vg juice and i only have trouble with ekowool but with cotton it wicks perfectly. I did have some success with ekowool but it takes many adjustments to get right so i gave up on it. Ekowool works well on my fogger though.

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[suspectK]

I use high vg juice and i only have trouble with ekowool but with cotton it wicks perfectly. I did have some success with ekowool but it takes many adjustments to get right so i gave up on it. Ekowool works well on my fogger though.

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I'm not too familiar with the fogger, but isn't the coil pretty close to the bottom of the tank, so liquid doesn't have to travel up wick?

 

[spookyluke]

It's one thing to say it works for you, but it's another to change principles..

What's your altitude?

My altitude is down under. Australia. Everything is upside down and inside out and ... deadly

 

[spookyluke]

No wonder my russian likes it here!!!!

 

[YuckMan]

I tend to use pretty much 100% VG juices; or if not 100%, very high in VG . I find my best builds for all my KayFuns (KFL, KFL+, and KF 3.1) are around 1.3-1.6 ohms built around a 2mm screwdriver. Too low a resistance, or too small a coil diameter (such as 5/64") and it seems the wick struggles to keep up with the coil due to the thick viscosity of the juice.

Cotton wick from a ball, rolled-not twisted, medium drag when pulling through the coil. By medium, I mean I want to feel some resistance from the wire, but not enough resistance to move the coil. (It's a hard thing to explain, that's about the best I can come up with.) Fluff up the ends of the cotton, trim to deck, place as thezoo does on the post above ^ kinda spread out along the edge of the deck.

On the 3.1 and +, I'm running the airflow pretty much wide open, no dry hits, no priming necessary. YMMV of course, this setup suits my vaping style.

BTW, I use them on a Provari at 11 watts (again, depending on juice flavor) or on mechs -

This. Avoid micro coils. Coil diameter is key when running 100% VG. 2mm diameter might work with cotton, but I find that with silica wicks I need to go even wider. Cut any extra wick to the length of the coil so it doesn't get tucked into the air channels. You don't want to block the air channels or pack it too tight in them, but some extra wick in the coil will help a lot.

 

[crxess]

If you find using 100% VG or any other ratio in any device is impeding wicking and you would prefer to keep using that particular mix, fix it simple.
Add a drop of Distilled water at a time until the juice is at a reasonable flow rate. Then enjoy your favorite vape.
PGA Also works to thin VG

Also not all suppliers use the same VG base some manufacturers VG has a higher flow rate and others is as thick as molasses.