Wishlist for an APV?

[JordanL]

I haven't been vaping long, but I'm a programmer, and I have several friends who are electrical engineers, some with access to labs. I'm toying with the idea of designing and creating an APV from scratch... the microprocessor, the circuitry, everything.

The reason I'm considering this is because even the very best APVs, such as the ProVari, seem to be... simplistic. You can control the voltage, but the menu system requires 7-15 button presses to activate. It's quite genius, because it's a one button system that adequately performs the job without feeling frustrating, but I find myself... wishing for more.

So, what are some features in an APV that you wish were there? What kind of interface would you ideally like to see?

I'm also toying with the idea of designing a completely new heating surface that's a dry hotplate (no wick or cart) that directly atomizes from a tank. (Like a drip atty with a tank that automatically keeps it from getting dry or flooding.) I think a system like this would be overall easier to clean, if designed correctly, and probably last longer, but if I go forward with that I'll probably have to create several prototypes before I get the right combo there.

Anyway, please provide your input. I'm gonna sit down with my engineering friends in a few weeks and go over my designs with them to get some fabrication estimates and such.

 

[Unforeseen]

Moved from General E-Smoking Discussion to APV Discussion

 

[rondasherrill]

IMO, simple is better. As far as PV, something on par with a Provari, but variable wattage. Anything more than that, i.e. fancier screen, etc..., and you are unnecessarily stealing battery power from its primary purpose, to fire the coil. Single button design rules.

This new atomizer idea is highly interesting though... Kinda like a G-Tank, using the vacuum pressure of your draw to drip liquid from a tank down onto the coil, but the coil is something similar to a car cigarette lighter?

 

[JordanL]

Actually, I was thinking something more like capillary action draws the juice UP to the atty, which sits above the tank, and yes is something closer to a car cigarette lighter.

If you can use capillary action to draw up, then you don't even need "holes" down to the battery. You could draw air in very close to the mouth piece, and you'd be able to deliver very warm vapor without using too much energy or burning the juice.

 

[JordanL]

I'm actually considering using a flexible solar panel that you can roll out of the tube to charge the thing...

I'm not looking to build a cheap device. Since I'm initially looking for my ideal device, it'll probably be pretty expensive to produce... but a built in solar panel that I can unroll from the tube is one of the things I'm pondering.

EDIT:

Okay, here's the atty I was talking about... very rough sketch



As you can see, the atomizer sits above the tank. The very close together walls act similar to a wick. They suck up juice by capillary action. This is the very basic concept, but there are lots of other little pieces to make this a working design...

I think properly constructed this could be far superior to current products... I don't know, I'm gonna sit down with my engineering friend later and talk about it. The bottom is completely sealed, so there is no way for it to leak. It should also be impossible for you to draw juice directly to your mouth with a design like this.

 

[rondasherrill]

Wait, if a regular 510 atomizer screws on top of the thing in your sketch, then it's already been done. Search for "Scubabatdan Suckaton". His original plan was capilary action too, but even with a thin needle it still required some suction on your part. Actually works great though.

 

[JordanL]

Wait, if a regular 510 atomizer screws on top of the thing in your sketch, then it's already been done. Search for "Scubabatdan Suckaton". His original plan was capilary action too, but even with a thin needle it still required some suction on your part. Actually works great though.

Hmmm... I wonder if having a hotplate style atomizer would be better than what is essentially exposed coils that exist everywhere today.

I'll have to do some prototyping with this.

 

[bjannr]

I like the solar charging idea.

If/when this comes to be, no matter what type of heating you use, it would be nice to be able to use some of my rebuildable 510's on it.

 

[roulette]

18350 with over 1000mAh, I want it.

 

[Brachinus]

An included Ego adapter so cartos for the Ego will fit flush with the surface.

 

[JordanL]

An included Ego adapter so cartos for the Ego will fit flush with the surface.

It's always the little things when you're selling a consumer product.

I still don't know if I'll do this as a personal project or something I take to a manufacturer. We'll see.

 

[rondasherrill]

An included Ego adapter so cartos for the Ego will fit flush with the surface.

Oh I just thought of an idea for this one... A drip well, with the inner wall of the drip well has the eGo threads. That way, with an eGo cone or Stardust or whatever, it will be perfectly flush, but when you use a regular carto or atomizer, it won't need a "shorty cone" to hide the otherwise unsightly eGo threads.

 

[iamtumus]

yeah similar to the design of the smok telescope