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vlodato

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Again, it didn't break upon being dropped, it broke two days later. Again there have been many other reports of the glass breaking just taking it off and putting it back on. There is an issue with them, and it's not just me.
As I said above, had it broken when I dropped it, I get it. But it had no chips or cracks and wasn't until I took it apart to clean it that it all started going sideways. The SS cover should NOT have come off under tap water, then the tank just randomly crack fifteen min later?
Read the last few pages of the "Theorem" thread in the rta section of this forum, there are many reports of glass breaking. Check youtube, again, there are many reviewers having problems with the glass breaking, assembling and disassembling them, without dropping them.
Please read the whole thread before coming to a quick assumption.

Well I just took mine off and had no issues. Did you read my second post? I'm not going to go into that thread because imo it's a none issue. People will complain about anything. People say it leaks, I left mine on its side for 6 hours while I slept. Not 1 drop, more then I can say about my bellus or griffin. The stainless steel tank I can't comment on as I haven't used it. I'm sure there's adhesive or glue you could use but you said you tried that.
 

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I did read the second paragraph, and I had no issues, other than it was very tight fitting, getting it on and off. Mine just cracked while vaping it.
I'm glad you are happy and think it's a non-issue, but there are many others that find it is an issue.
I bought 2 Theorems and also have issues with 1 of them splitting glass. The first time the glass broke when my girlfriend tried taking it off to re wick. She left it for me to fix. Her replacement glass was crazy tight. Lubing the o rings helped slightly, but the glass broke as soon as I got it on.
Tried again with my spare glass, it lasted less than a day and split.

I've been wondering if the o rings are too thick. They seemed to have mashed down when I slid the sleeved glass on the problem child. I'm vaping it that way and gave the glass friendly one to my GF. Now I need a new TC mod to match the sleeve.:w00t:

Problems aside, we are both enjoying these enough to consider buying 2 more.

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Well, another update to the dog and pony show that is the PoS Theorem. I put the SS sleeved tank on after I broke the first tank. This evening I was going to install a 26g/36g fused Clapton and pulled the SS sleeve right off the glass trying to get the tank off again. No water required @sawlight, while I was pulling on it to get the tank free it started to slide and popped right off...

Another stupid design on the Theorem, the SS sleeve is razor sharp and sits down too far so it will easily cut into the top of your mod without tightening the atty down tight. If the sleeve was a smidgen higher so it wouldn't cut, you would not be able to hold onto the air ring while tightening the top cap.

If I had picked this up at a local B&M it would have been taken back for a full refund by now, but since it was not available locally and came from China, it is not worth the hassle or the wait.


There is light at the end of this dark tunnel though, and I do believe it will bring this steaming pile of stool back to useful status again. While I had the SS sleeve sitting on the table I decided to pull that glass tank off the atty. Taking about a half hour and working carefully not to crack this one, it finally came off in one piece. I dug through the parts box and pulled out a pair of 19x17x1mm Kayfun o-rings to replace the Green Gummy Bear's on the Theorem. Put the tank back on and it has a good stiff hold without being too tight or falling off. If you did hold it by the glass with a mod attached and gave it a flick downward, it would pull free of the base. The friction on those o-rings will be perfectly acceptable for daily use IMHO. If someone has some 1.2mm o-rings to try they would be a little tighter. I changed the top cap o-ring as well so its all matchy matchy, it is a little loose with only one o-ring, so I will try out a few thicker ones.

Give it a try and see how it works out, it's nice to be able to remove the tank like ever other glass compression held tank. :thumbs:

I've had no issues since my very first glass, but that glass literally broke the very first time I went to put it back on after the first build. So yes, the technique is easy to pick up, but yes it is absolutely necessary because that .... will crack at the slightest wrong angle of pressure. The glass is noticeably less thick than many other tanks, so it's not simply a user error. It's a design flaw that's avoidable through careful use, but it's still a flaw. The glass is just not a good match for the o-rings, or vice versa, or both at once.

Just a few.
 

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I'm glad you are happy and think it's a non-issue, but there are many others that find it is an issue.
Threads like these will frustrate you more than solve any problems. For every person that has had the tank break just getting it off the base, WITHOUT any previous trauma to the atty or janking it off sideways etc. There will be 10 who have never had a problem and will blame you for the problem you are having.

Just have a look in the eVic VTC Mini thread when we were all trying to get TC working properly on it, threads were even created on Joyetech's site detailing the issues. The forums there are filled with staff and shills who don't have any solution to the problem, because there isn't any solution... The big Chinese manufacturers do not read ECF, they just take notes from your emails on how to make the next SKU in production more profitable.

The same thing with the Theorem. Replace the base o-rings with 19x17x1mm and the glass will work as it should, I have had the tank off and on 10 times without any concern for the possibility of a broken tank. This is an easy fix and if they do ship you a replacement tank or two, then it's all good! The metal sleeve is poorly designed and stupidly implemented, that must have been Matt from SMM's input. :lol:

I'll put a little PC-11 around the inside top of the sleeve and slide it onto the glass, putting it at the proper height, so it will not score the top of my mod from being down too far like it was.

My only issue now is filling this little pig, MaxVG from a 30ml PTFE juice bottle will sometimes just not go down that fill hole. :glare:

For future reference, if it says Joyetech or Wismec then by all means give it a pass. :nah:

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Threads like these will frustrate you more than solve any problems. For every person that has had the tank break just getting it off the base, WITHOUT any previous trauma to the atty or janking it off sideways etc. There will be 10 who have never had a problem and will blame you for the problem you are having.

Just have a look in the eVic VTC Mini thread when we were all trying to get TC working properly on it, threads were even created on Joyetech's site detailing the issues. The forums there are filled with staff and shills who don't have any solution to the problem, because there isn't any solution... The big Chinese manufacturers do not read ECF, they just take notes from your emails on how to make the next SKU in production more profitable.

The same thing with the Theorem. Replace the base o-rings with 19x17x1mm and the glass will work as it should, I have had the tank off and on 10 times without any concern for the possibility of a broken tank. This is an easy fix and if they do ship you a replacement tank or two, then it's all good! The metal sleeve is poorly designed and stupidly implemented, that must have been Matt from SMM's input. :lol:

I'll put a little PC-11 around the inside top of the sleeve and slide it onto the glass, putting it at the proper height, so it will not score the top of my mod from being down too far like it was.

My only issue now is filling this little pig, MaxVG from a 30ml PTFE juice bottle will sometimes just not go down that fill hole. :glare:

For future reference, if it says Joyetech or Wismec then by all means give it a pass. :nah:

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I agree, there are so many great products out by different companies, we have lots of selections. But lookout what you say:shock: you will get the Wismec/Joyetech Fanboys up in arms:pop:
 
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This is the response I got from them concerning a missing O ring on my Theorem (not in the extra's bag).
I don't think I will ever buy from them again.

Hi Larry, we're located in China and it's really not convenient and too expensive to send you a o-ring from so far place. Could you kindly find a o-ring with similar size as replacement? Many thanks
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I got one of these for review and I'll tell you this glass breaking is a serious issue. if it was a noob it could cause serious problems i.e. major deep cuts or in worst case scenario inhalation of glass. that said it was my opinion that this thing was cheaply made and poorly engineered. I got a lot of heat for it. but it's the truth while most reviewers "loved it" I gave a it a B at best so far no glass breaking but i dont use it much due to poor vapor production and just terrible atty it's far to small and my replacement glass upon inspection is just a tiny bit smaller (not noticed during the reviewing period--2 weeks) the only real pro's to this are the looks of it and the price but no matter what if someone is spending hard earned money on anything it should at least have glass that doesnt split. I believe it's due to the size of the tank in comparison to how hot the notch coils make it. the glass gets seriously hot after only a few puffs. just my 2 cents.
 

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I got one of these for review and I'll tell you this glass breaking is a serious issue. if it was a noob it could cause serious problems i.e. major deep cuts or in worst case scenario inhalation of glass. that said it was my opinion that this thing was cheaply made and poorly engineered. I got a lot of heat for it. but it's the truth while most reviewers "loved it" I gave a it a B at best so far no glass breaking but i dont use it much due to poor vapor production and just terrible atty it's far to small and my replacement glass upon inspection is just a tiny bit smaller (not noticed during the reviewing period--2 weeks) the only real pro's to this are the looks of it and the price but no matter what if someone is spending hard earned money on anything it should at least have glass that doesnt split. I believe it's due to the size of the tank in comparison to how hot the notch coils make it. the glass gets seriously hot after only a few puffs. just my 2 cents.
Fortunately I didn't get it for vapor production, I got it for a flavor machine, and in that aspect, I am VERY happy with it. It comes right through with the flavor.
I'm not happy with the glass issue, especially since they withheld this from the original release date because of glass issues from the beginning.
I also do not like the build deck, the positive post should have two holes, not a slot across it. It's cumbersome to try and get the positive coil leg under the grub screw, hold it off to the side, and tighten the grub screw. I'm surprised more people haven't complained about that as well?
So for the fan boys and drum beaters, yes, this is a real problem, sorry you don't want to hear about it.
 

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Threads like these will frustrate you more than solve any problems. For every person that has had the tank break just getting it off the base, WITHOUT any previous trauma to the atty or janking it off sideways etc. There will be 10 who have never had a problem and will blame you for the problem you are having.

Just have a look in the eVic VTC Mini thread when we were all trying to get TC working properly on it, threads were even created on Joyetech's site detailing the issues. The forums there are filled with staff and shills who don't have any solution to the problem, because there isn't any solution... The big Chinese manufacturers do not read ECF, they just take notes from your emails on how to make the next SKU in production more profitable.

The same thing with the Theorem. Replace the base o-rings with 19x17x1mm and the glass will work as it should, I have had the tank off and on 10 times without any concern for the possibility of a broken tank. This is an easy fix and if they do ship you a replacement tank or two, then it's all good! The metal sleeve is poorly designed and stupidly implemented, that must have been Matt from SMM's input. :lol:

I'll put a little PC-11 around the inside top of the sleeve and slide it onto the glass, putting it at the proper height, so it will not score the top of my mod from being down too far like it was.

My only issue now is filling this little pig, MaxVG from a 30ml PTFE juice bottle will sometimes just not go down that fill hole. :glare:

For future reference, if it says Joyetech or Wismec then by all means give it a pass. :nah:

anBVVLE_700b.jpg
I don't have the Theorum, but I saw several post about the glass problem, so never considered getting one. It doesn't help that my replacement RX200 that I received 2 weeks ago because the 1st one was overheating, is now having problems with just shutting off for no reason and won't stay on. I'm troubleshooting it now, but it may be returned and replaced with something else not Wismec/Joyetech:grr:
 
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I don't have the Theorum, but I saw several post about the glass problem, so never considered getting one. It doesn't help that my replacement RX200 that I received 2 weeks ago because the 1st one was overheating, is now having problems with just shutting off for no reason and won't stay on. I'm troubleshooting it now, but it may be returned and replaced with something else not Wismec/Joyetech:grr:

Are you sure you haven't dropped or abused it? I haven't had that problem, or heard about it, so it's a non-issue to me!:lol::lol::lol:
 

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been working with an rx200 for couple days now for a review in a couple weeks and so far so good, I have shims in the 510 so far my biggest complaint is the shallow 510 seems to be running as well as the cuboid. updated to 3.10 firmware yesterday. but I have heard people say theirs shuts off etc. for all my mod and tank reviews I bring it to work (I do concrete construction) and pound on them (done this with the cuboid koopor plus and a few other mods) so far so good but I will definately be taking it apart and installing a better spring loaded 510 for sure
 
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been working with an rx200 for couple days now for a review in a couple weeks and so far so good, I have shims in the 510 so far my biggest complaint is the shallow 510 seems to be running as well as the cuboid. updated to 3.10 firmware yesterday. but I have heard people say theirs shuts off etc. for all my mod and tank reviews I bring it to work (I do concrete construction) and pound on them (done this with the cuboid koopor plus and a few other mods) so far so good but I will definately be taking it apart and installing a better spring loaded 510 for sure
Why change out the 510 if the new RX200S is supposed to have a new and improved 510
 
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because I have the original rx200 and cant see a reason to buy another one for a bigger screen and "improved" 510 when a 510 witha good spring loaded connection is like $5 and a little soldering. this "new improved" 510 they speak of is not much an improvement its more the the cuboid's 510 which is got its own problems imo. the difference between me and most reviewers is most of them dont seem to have these issues that a ton of users have not sure if the deck is being stacked for samples or they just like getting items free. I pay for the things I review so my reviews are not of samples they are of what everyone else buys there are countless issues that end users have that are just plain oversights one manufacturers behalf that said this is my favorite mod to date and at least the 510 isn't shorting out like the cuboids does but imo no one should have to shim any atomizer on any device that's just my opinion though
 
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