Wismec Rx200S intro: RX with a Evic screen

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One could argue that the 510 pin on those atties is too long.

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One would have to be pretty stupid to try to make such an argument given the fact that the same attys work fine on virtually every other mod on the market. I have a half dozen mods, the RX200 is the ONLY one with the 510 problem. I know people with more than 2 dozen mods and the RX200 is the ONLY one with the 510 problem.

When the attys work just fine on 99.9% of the mods on the market and there is one mod that has consistent problems with dozens of different attys, guess where the problem is. When that one mod can be fixed by replacing the stock 510 connector with a Fat Daddy Vapes 510 connector, guess where the problem is. I'll give you a hint, the problem is NOT the attys. And anyone who denies that is quite simply either horribly ignorant or willfully stupid.
 

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You know Joyetech was the first to use the 510 as their standard connection and everybody else followed. But many of the others never bothered to use Joyetech's length of 4.6mm.

The 510 on the Reuleaux isn't 4.6mm deep either.

Put a micrometer on it. I have on mine, It's only 3.6mm deep with the 510 pin up and with the pin fully pressed down it's only 4.3mm deep. And that's measuring from the top of the atty well to the bottom of the 510 connector. If you measure from the top of the 510 connector to the bottom it's only 3mm deep.

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Based on that picture the 510 connector itself is less than 4mm deep. If it was 4.6mm deep to the pin then there would be one more full thread before the pin. As it stands now, there are only 3 complete threads inside the 510 connector With a 1mm thread pitch it's less than 4mm deep.


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It's pretty clear where the problem lies.
 
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One would have to be pretty stupid to try to make such an argument given the fact that the same attys work fine on virtually every other mod on the market. I have a half dozen mods, the RX200 is the ONLY one with the 510 problem. I know people with more than 2 dozen mods and the RX200 is the ONLY one with the 510 problem.

When the attys work just fine on 99.9% of the mods on the market and there is one mod that has consistent problems with dozens of different attys, guess where the problem is. When that one mod can be fixed by replacing the stock 510 connector with a Fat Daddy Vapes 510 connector, guess where the problem is. I'll give you a hint, the problem is NOT the attys. And anyone who denies that is quite simply either horribly ignorant or willfully stupid.
I take your one dozen mods and raise you two dozen. LMAO This is one of the best mods made. For those who don't buy no-name clone tanks, there is no problem.
 
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Mine will be here tomorrow, hopefully it will work well with my TFV4 in TC mode. [emoji30]

I held off on the original because I figured the 510 was like the Evic Mini, but when they announced the improved 510 and bigger screen it was an instant buy for me. The hype train strikes again.

Well played Wismec, well played.
 

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The 510 on the Reuleaux isn't 4.6mm deep either.

Put a micrometer on it. I have on mine, It's only 3.6mm deep with the 510 pin up and with the pin fully pressed down it's only 4.3mm deep. And that's measuring from the top of the atty well to the bottom of the 510 connector. If you measure from the top of the 510 connector to the bottom it's only 3mm deep.
I checked one months before and it was 3.9mm (pin up) and 4.6mm (pin down). I just lined up my two RX200 and two Reuleaux DNA200. And I checked all four. And they are all 3.9/4.6mm. And reading the back of this cheap Chinese caliper says accuracy +/-0.2mm. Want me to walk down to my machine shop and use an American made micrometer on them? I just checked one of my HCigar VT133 out of curiosity and that one is 3.6/5.2mm.
 
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I take your one dozen mods and raise you two dozen. LMAO This is one of the best mods made. For those who don't buy no-name clone tanks, there is no problem.
Really? Yes, great mod, with a 510 that sucks, and is too shallow for some attys. For example, the Vapresso Gemini 22mm RTA. Which I wasn't aware was a no-name clone tank.....Same thing happens with the SMOK TFv4, and others....

The bottom line is, when compared to other MODS the Wismec, Joyetech, eLeaf mods have a shallow 510, with a stiff spring and 510 pin that will get stuck.....
 

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Well this thread got hostile quick :nah:

On topic, I love my 2 rx200's but I've also had the 510 problems with my serpent rta on the rx. My cuboid has the same problems. It's a shame they didn't fix it, because I would of bought 2 more. Looks like I'll wait and just buy the new lost vape triad dna 200 instead.
Is that the mod that will take a non-standard tank like a TFV4.....if it is then all these whiners should buy one. Or a provar i. lol
 

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Is that the mod that will take a non-standard tank like a TFV4.....if it is then all these whiners should buy one. Or a provar i. lol
Some of us are not bothered by the Joyetech/Wismec shallow 510. That is why they invented spacers for.

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One would have to be pretty stupid to try to make such an argument given the fact that the same attys work fine on virtually every other mod on the market. I have a half dozen mods, the RX200 is the ONLY one with the 510 problem. I know people with more than 2 dozen mods and the RX200 is the ONLY one with the 510 problem.

When the attys work just fine on 99.9% of the mods on the market and there is one mod that has consistent problems with dozens of different attys, guess where the problem is. When that one mod can be fixed by replacing the stock 510 connector with a Fat Daddy Vapes 510 connector, guess where the problem is. I'll give you a hint, the problem is NOT the attys. And anyone who denies that is quite simply either horribly ignorant or willfully stupid.
So, in comparison, JVC manufactures the first VHS player and you'd blame them for the cassettes of later manufacturers not fitting the player? Joyetech created the 510 connector (crap as it may be), and other manufacturers adopted it, sloppily. Joyetech are fully within their right to follow the specifications they created, though they'd be smart to allow for longer 510 pins. The fact of the matter is that the 510 pins of atties such as the tfv4 and Gemini are ridiculously long. So while I agree with you that Joyetech/Wismec should make better 510 connectors, it's not the person claiming that the pins are too long that is stupid, it is the person claiming that the Joyetech/Wismec 510 is too shallow that is ignorant of history. I wouldn't call you ignorant, but if you insist on calling people stupid someone might call you out on it.

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I've already proven that the Wismec 510 connector does not adhere to Joyetech's specs. It is NOT 4.6mm deep, the 510 connector itself is less than 4mm deep. Why do you ignore that undeniable fact?

Because admitting it makes you look stupid?

510 = 5mm in diameter with a 1mm thread pitch. That is 1mm between the top of one thread and the next. You can clearly and undeniably see that there are only 3 threads inside the 510 connector. From the top to the top ridge of the first thread is 1mm, to the second thread is 2mm, and to the 3rd thread is 3mm. There is no 4th thread, so the connector is less than 4mm deep. Joyetech's specs call for 4.6mm in depth, the connector in the Wismec Reuleaux is LESS than that. It's right there in the picture for everyone to see. Even you can count to 4, right?

4.6mm in 510 threading would require 4 complete threads and a partial thread below the top of the connector. How many threads below the top of the connector do you see?

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Open it up in paint and draw arrows to each thread. Remember not to count the top, start at the first complete thread below the top because that is 1mm.


And for the record, Joyetech most definitely did NOT invent 510 threading, nor the 510 threaded socket. The threading has been around for decades, the socket was developed by early cigalike manufacturers in China and there is no standard in regards to depth.

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That manually operated cigalike was on the market before Joyetech ever existed.
 
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I've already proven that the Wismec 510 connector does not adhere to Joyetech's specs. It is NOT 4.6mm deep, the 510 connector itself is less than 4mm deep. Why do you ignore that undeniable fact?
Look at the top of the 510 again. The threads do not go all the way to the top. Even adding three more threads to the top, it still won't reach the very bottom of an atty yet. That is what I measured, from the base of an atty to the pin. And that is 3.9mm to 4.6mm. Why would you measure any differently?
 

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I've already proven that the Wismec 510 connector does not adhere to Joyetech's specs. It is NOT 4.6mm deep, the 510 connector itself is less than 4mm deep. Why do you ignore that undeniable fact?

Because admitting it makes you look stupid?

510 = 5mm in diameter with a 1mm thread pitch. That is 1mm between the top of one thread and the next. You can clearly and undeniably see that there are only 3 threads inside the 510 connector. From the top to the top ridge of the first thread is 1mm, to the second thread is 2mm, and to the 3rd thread is 3mm. There is no 4th thread, so the connector is less than 4mm deep. Joyetech's specs call for 4.6mm in depth, the connector in the Wismec Reuleaux is LESS than that. It's right there in the picture for everyone to see. Even you can count to 4, right?

4.6mm in 510 threading would require 4 complete threads and a partial thread below the top of the connector. How many threads below the top of the connector do you see?

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Open it up in paint and draw arrows to each thread. Remember not to count the top, start at the first complete thread below the top because that is 1mm.

You really do like insulting people, don't you? Why so hostile? It's usually a sign of insecurity, is that the case here? Remember, I'm not the one aggressively holding my stance, I simply offered a different perspective. And no, I don't mind at all looking stupid when I am, or admitting I'm wrong when I am.

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I placed an order a few weeks ago for one. but I'm on the fence about canceling.

I've had to deal with these 510 issues on my cuboid. Didn't want a repeat. But then again, it was only 40 for the unit.

How easy is it to replace the 510 on the rx200/s?
The 510 on the other Reuleauxs have a two bracket L shaped shelf under the top that the 510 slips into. I bet the RX200S are the same. If you cut/grind the L shaped brackets off, you can get another 510 to fit. Many have reported that you need to cut part of the battery sled because the replaced 510 is probably longer and will hit it.
 
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I have the first version and it wouldn't read my main all day tank when all my other devices will. I like everything about the mod except the 510 issue. I was hopeful they would fix it in the new version but if not I will not be getting it.

I saw a thread where one of the members replaced the 510 and it didn't seem like it was too difficult. I purchased a better 510 just in case I needed to replace mine down the road.
 
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