Wizard Labs order

[Calivapr123]

If you really want top notch DIY tobacco flavors, I heard Hangsen is worth a try too

 

[Roncgizmo]

Thanks, But right now I'm just trying to get a base to start from on the cheap.. as of now I'm only at around 60 bucks.. I'm also trying one stop sopping so I don't end up paying $40 just for shipping

 

[dannyv45]

Thanks all.. I'm at wizard labs and they have no Ethyl Malto or vape wizard any sub for them?

ask for cotton candy or sweetner. Smooth will work in place of vape wizard.

 

[Roncgizmo]

ask for cotton candy or sweetner. Smooth will work in place of vape wizard.

They are out of cotton candy.. They do have a sweetener it's Ingredients are Artificial flavor, propylene glycol, water, Sucralose
You think that one will be fine for now?

I know me and by the end of the summer I'll have like 35 flavors.. lol

 

[Rin13]

I actually prefer Sucralose/sweetener opposed to E.M. To me, E.M. alters the flavor, especially in fruits. However it does work well in tobacco blends.

They are out of cotton candy.. They do have a sweetener it's Ingredients are Artificial flavor, propylene glycol, water, Sucralose
You think that one will be fine for now?

I know me and by the end of the summer I'll have like 35 flavors.. lol

 

[Roncgizmo]

Cool! Thanks Rin, I'm about to do the order now

 

[Rin13]

Good luck. And I would second what someone else said. Please read up on DIYS while your order is shipped. I've wasted SO much product because I didn't take the time to read the proper way to do things. THe most important thing to note is that most (if not all) juices need to steep or are most pleasant when steeped.

 

[Roncgizmo]

I'm studying so much I feel like I'm back in college...lol No but really, I plan on it.. I'm also not a stranger to mixology.. I ran saltwater/coral tanks for years.. I even ran a coral farm. Photography (developing), etc.. I know it's not the same and the Nic can potentially kill me if I handle it wrong but hey if I keep smoking I'm going to die a slow painful death..

 

[Rin13]

I forget about the nicotine factor as I don't use it... but yes.. that would be another concern. I just know that me personally, I did read a little before DIY'ing but not enough. Another mistake I made was not taking notes. I assumed that I would remember the percentages I used... Problem is that I'm ALWAYS second guessing myself... so that didn't turn out well. I ended up wasting a LOT of product because of this. Luckily it was the cheaper stuff but I do not like to waste things.

I'm studying so much I feel like I'm back in college...lol No but really, I plan on it.. I'm also not a stranger to mixology.. I ran saltwater/coral tanks for years.. I even ran a coral farm. Photography (developing), etc.. I know it's not the same and the Nic can potentially kill me if I handle it wrong but hey if I keep smoking I'm going to die a slow painful death..

 

[Mowgli]

Cool! Thanks Rin, I'm about to do the order now

You said you were at about $60.
They give free shipping starting at $65 - $70

 

[Roncgizmo]

You said you were at about $60.
They give free shipping starting at $65 - $70

Damn! I didn't see that anywhere.. Anyway, by the time I got done getting everything I wanted it only came out to 53 shipped.
They had some other stuff I wanted it it was all out of stock..

100mg Nicotine solution - 120ml
- Carrier Base Liquid: 100% USP Vegetable G.. NS-100MG-120ML 1 $15.99 $15.99
Propylene Glycol - 120ml PG-120ML 1 $3.19 $3.19
Vegetable Glycerin - 120ml VG-120ML 1 $3.19 $3.19
10ml LDPE Dropper Bottle with Child Resist Cap DB-10ML-CRC 6 $0.49 $2.94
Acetyl Pyrazine 5% PG Flavor Concentrate (TFA) FL-TFA-ACETYLPYR 1 $1.49 $1.49
555 Type DK Tobacco Flavor Concentrate (TFA) FL-TFA-555DKTOB 1 $1.49 $1.49
Smooth Flavor PG Concentrate (TFA) FL-TFA-SMOOTH-PG 1 $1.49 $1.49
Mtype Premium Tobacco Flavor (TFA) FL-TFA-MTYPE-TOB 1 $1.49 $1.49
Virginia Fire-Cured Tobacco Flavor Concentrate (SM) FL-SM-VIRGFC-TOB 1 $1.49 $1.49
Tobacco Absolute Blend PG ( TFA ) FL-TFA-TOB-ABSLT-PG 1 $1.49 $1.49
RY4 Type-1 Flavor Concentrate (TFA) FL-TFA-RY4-T1 1 $1.49 $1.49
Green Apple Flavor (TFA) FL-TFA-GREEN-APPLE 1 $1.49 $1.49
Espresso Flavor (TFA) FL-TFA-ESPRESO 1 $1.49 $1.49
50ml LDPE Dropper Bottle with Child Resist Cap DB-50ML-CRC 1 $0.59 $0.59
Sweetener Flavor Concentrate (TFA) FL-TFA-SWEETENER 1 $1.49 $1.49
3ml Disposable Pipette DP-3ML 10 $0.13 $1.30
30ml Cobalt Blue Glass Bottle w/ Glass Dropper Top CBB-GDT-30ML 1 $0.99 $0.99
Sub-Total: $43.09
Priority Mail: $9.50
Total: $52.59

 

[Steven Pye]

looks good- you should be ready in a few days to start rocking it!!!

When you place a follow up order try to snag the Vape Wizard, you wont be sorry you did

 

[Roncgizmo]

looks good- you should be ready in a few days to start rocking it!!!

When you place a follow up order try to snag the Vape Wizard, you wont be sorry you did

It's on my list before I order more vape stuff I need to get 2 rear tires for my car and at least a front tire for the bike..
when I ordered the batteries and atty's I ordered about 90ml factory made juice to get me started.. It will also give me some
time to let things age.

 

[NancyB]

I have truly enjoyed reading all of your comments in this thread!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!! May I add my THANKS to each of you? (newbie surfer - grin) I didn't know about Vape Wizard, AP, and many more things you all have mentioned and sooooo appreciate your input! Now, to go see if my 'vape mail' has arrived with some concentrated flavors I ordered last week - yipee!! get to play some more if they're 'in'. NancyB

 

[Abe_Katz]

Sorry for the double post. I first posted this in new members but didn't get much over there.

I'm putting an order together for Wizard Labs.. So far I'm setting myself up with 100mg Nic cut with VG (I'm not big on throat hits)
and some extra VG and PG in the same quantity as the Nic (each)

But here's my biggest problem. I want tobacco flavor.. I've been reading about how hard that is as recipes go
However I know that's what my body will crave the most..

Can anyone here offer up some good suggestions for flavor additives? I hear the M-type, works well
and I was also going to try some 555 and Cowboy.. I would like to keep it simple.. As of now I smoke L&M blue
and Marlboro gold (lights) If that help..

I would like to get this order in ASAP! Thanks in advance

Okay I often order from Wizard Labs for my DIY stuff (well except for PG and VG--Its cheaper for me to get it from the local B&M--I don't have Visa wanting five bucks to put money on the prepaid card).

If you want a tobacco flavor there is one that I make regularly and is pretty simple.

TFA 555 DK Type Tobacco @ 12%
TFA Original Caramel @ 4%
Ethel Maltol @2%.

You'll want to let that mix steep for a minimum of a week. It will have a "purfume-y taste" at first, particularly while its young. But a carto usually takes care of that and its not "purfume-y" in a bad way in my opinion.

I would also suggest some of the RY4 varieties if you like RY4s and some sweet cream perhaps (it smooths things out I find).

That said I'm generally not a tobacco flavor vaper--I prefer fruit flavors and candy flavors.

 

[Roncgizmo]

I gotta say, I'm getting a lot of inspiring information here.. Can't wait until all my gear comes in.

 

[Tepid]

One thing I would point out is,,,

Cobalt Blue Bottles look nice, but from my understanding and everything that I have read
there is some mixed opinion in certain circles, but the Beer Brewing circle states that Amber Bottles are far superior to Cobalt blue bottles
However, if you are not keeping in a brightly lit room for long periods of time, it should be fine.

In order of best to worst...

1. Amber
2. Cobalt Blue
3. Green (in fact, from my understanding, these are on par with clear glass)
4. Clear Glass
5. Plastic anything for long term storage (ie, more than a month or 2)

Tip: DO NOT store flavors or flavored juice in the fridge or freezer, ever, there are threads here about fast spoilage

DO store NIC Base in the freezer in Amber Glass bottles with a Poly Seal Cap
Keep any unopened bottles filled as full as possible, the less air there, the better for long term storage
I buy 250 or 500ML's (about 1000ml's at a time) of 100mg NIC base and break that down
to smaller 30ml Amber bottles with polyseal caps
I then foodsaver bag them and mark the bag with the date and Lot# of the bottles I pulled them from
These should keep forever, just about literally. Stock up now, you may not get a chance come October.

This is the cheapest place you will find anywhere to get bottles, caps or both....
Boston Round Bottles

I have searched and there is no place cheaper and these are quality Boston Rounds.

Caps - Dropper Caps are nice and convenient, but, as I understand it, over time, your juice can go stale or lose it's flavor as the rubber squeeze tops are not well insulated for long term storage.
It's what I understand, but I do not know for sure, I just avoid using them altogether.
Better safe than sorry when it comes to juice.

Having a good juice go bad is such a depressing bummer moment in life, trust me on that.

Good Luck with your adventure

 

[Roncgizmo]

WL hasn't shipped yet so I picked up 3 more they didn't have in stock the other day..

Commercial Tobacco Flavor Concentrate (SM)
Cowboy Flavor Concentrate (TFA)
RY4 Double Flavor (TFA)

I talked to Susan at WL, She left me with a very good impression. She's going to add it to my
other order.

Here's the updated list:

100mg Nicotine solution - 120ml- Carrier VG
Propylene Glycol - 120ml
Vegetable Glycerin - 120ml
Acetyl Pyrazine 5% PG Flavor Concentrate (TFA)
555 Type DK Tobacco Flavor Concentrate (TFA)
Smooth Flavor PG Concentrate (TFA)
Mtype Premium Tobacco Flavor (TFA)
Virginia Fire-Cured Tobacco Flavor Concentrate (SM)
Tobacco Absolute Blend PG ( TFA )
RY4 Type-1 Flavor Concentrate (TFA)
Green Apple Flavor (TFA)
Espresso Flavor (TFA)
Commercial Tobacco Flavor Concentrate (SM)
Cowboy Flavor Concentrate (TFA)
RY4 Double Flavor (TFA)

 

[Skoad]

Ive been waiting to place another order for a week now but half the stuff I need is out of stock, and when its back instock, the other half of stuff is out. One of these days they will have stock in the items I need.

 

[Roncgizmo]

Just updated my order. They shipped part one and I ordered a few things today. I sent then an email about the free shipping
and they shipped it before she noticed it.. Susie emailed me back and said they will cover the shipping. So far the CS at WL
is 100% fantastic!

If anyone has any recipe suggestion using the flavors I bought I would love to hear them.

100mg Nicotine solution - 120ml- Carrier VG
Propylene Glycol - 120ml
Vegetable Glycerin - 120ml

Acetyl Pyrazine 5% PG Flavor Concentrate (TFA)
Ethyl Maltol 10% PG Solution (TFA)
Smooth Flavor PG Concentrate (TFA)
Sweetener Flavor Concentrate (TFA)
Green Apple Flavor (TFA)
Espresso Flavor (TFA)
French Vanilla Flavor Concentrate (TFA)
Hypnotica Liqueur -HPNO Flavor (TFA)
555 Type DK Tobacco Flavor Concentrate (TFA)
Mtype Premium Tobacco Flavor (TFA)
Virginia Fire-Cured Tobacco Flavor Concentrate (SM)
Tobacco Absolute Blend PG ( TFA )
RY4 Type-1 Flavor Concentrate (TFA)
Commercial Tobacco Flavor Concentrate (SM)
Cowboy Flavor Concentrate (TFA)
RY4 Double Flavor (TFA)

60ml Amber Glass Bottle w/ Polycone Cap (2)
30ml Cobalt Blue Glass Bottle w/ Glass Dropper Top (2)
10ml LDPE Dropper Bottle with Child Resist Cap (6)
50ml LDPE Dropper Bottle with Child Resist Cap (1)
3ml Disposable Pipette (10)