World War 1 and World War 2 discussion, debate and revisionism.

[AnthonyB]

Hi guys,

I've set this thread up for the purpose of discussion on a hotly discussed topic, which in the last few years has become a resurrected point of discussion with the growing area of world war 2 revisionism.

Please feel free to post any thoughts, ideas, articles or links, vignettes of world war 2, revisionist perspectives and beliefs and any other matters that pertain to this world changing period of time.

Regards

 

[AngelicTomPetty]

Band Of Brothers was one of the best series I have ever watched. That show actually got me interested in the second world war, and I sometimes read in bulk various wikipedia articles about various generals, battles, and happenings of the second world war.

I was actually watching a documentary on the Battle of the Bulge a few days ago.

 

[AnthonyB]

I've been meaning to watch Band of Brothers for a long time and have put it aside but your post has induced me to watch it!

 

[AngelicTomPetty]

Please watch man, one of the best programs to come out. Also people will say its not as good, but I think otherwise - check out The Pacific.

Same line as BOB but this focuses on the pacific theatre (as the name suggest lol).

 

[AnthonyB]

There is a very well made relatively high budget mini series coming out here in Australia called The Anzacs. I think it starts airing in Australia next week but it may have already started airing.


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[bassnut]

The title of this thread alone, assuming that it's sincere in scope... That's a deep subject and would probably yield more satisfactory result on the Outside section of ECF. That is if people want to hold a serious discussion about it and don't mind dodging the occasional trolls.
Should that happen and you are sincere, put on some body armor, study your history and get busy.

 

[AnthonyB]

I put this topic up as a method to curtail its discussion in one of my regular threads when a moderator requested we desist from talking about politics in the thread.




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[bassnut]

I put this topic up as a method to curtail its discussion in one of my regular threads when a moderator requested we desist from talking about politics in the thread.
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Which is precisely why the Outside exists. I'm surprised they didn't send you there directly.
If that's something you really want to discuss and go deep (possibly), then that's the place at ECF to do it properly.
You'd have to be open to strong differing opinions but you'll find some people there very knowledgeable if not down-right-rude at times.
Don't come expecting to preach something that you only have tenuous hold on unless you're somewhat open differing opinions.
You might even find a lot of support. A lot of America bashing lefties live there. You might feel right at home.

...even being from Australia!

 

[AnthonyB]

The conversation got started quite by accident. Someone mentioned the word socialist and equated it to evil and I had to chime in. I wrote a couple of short sharp responses and then was told by the moderator to bring it here.

In the traditional context, i am not a lefty.

I thought this was the outside section of ECF?

I have more than a tenuous hold on this subject

 

[bassnut]

You are in the Lounge, AnthonyB.
The gateway to the Outside is marked "Morituri".

http://www.e-cigarette-forum.com/forum/morituri/

It's advisable to read the sticky note left by rolygate before entering.
You would be most welcome to start your thread again there.

See ya !

 

[Surf Monkey]

A lot of America bashing lefties live there.

It's amusing that you imagine no one from the OUTSIDE would notice that feeble smear, Bass.

 

[twgbonehead]

"The World at War" is a somewhat old, but very good documentary series on WWII. Unlike many others (particularly at the time) it doesn't gloss over the Allies' actions (and screw-ups) but tries to paint an accurate picture of both sides of the conflict IMHO.

 

[AttyPops]

Supposedly, discussion can take place in either area..or so I've been told. Since politics is usually contentious, I assume this thread will move as soon as it gets heated.

To the OP:
Maybe you can narrow the topic and/or provide specific points on revisionism to launch us off. The two world wars are so heavily documented historically, and with video and audio to boot, that major revisions are kind of tough. But I suppose they happen around the edges. Then there's the denial B.S. and the "it was all just propaganda" B.S. but I don't get the impression that's what you're talking about.

 

[AnthonyB]

"The World at War" is a somewhat old, but very good documentary series on WWII. Unlike many others (particularly at the time) it doesn't gloss over the Allies' actions (and screw-ups) but tries to paint an accurate picture of both sides of the conflict IMHO.

Well, I think the trigger to this thread has just been pressed

I love the World At War series presented by Thames Television and have watched it a few times during the course of my life.

I find it to be a good source of information on the battles, the strategies and the sentiments of the people in some of the affected nations on the allies side. The format runs more like a story making it a fluid account of the war. It's very watchable.

That said, in more recent times with an ever expanding knowledge base I find the series very biased. It supports the propaganda of the 'good war' fought against the 'bad Germans'.

One of the glaring omissions, among many, which vindicate the Germans, is how World War 2 was started. The documentary ignores or downplays the massacres in the cut off Danzig territories in which Hitler negotiated feverishly with the Poles to end the genocide of ethnic Germans in the Danzig.

It also ignores the many negotiations of peace Germany attempted with England nor does it truly bring into perspective the magnitude of the massacres and genocides in Russia which was pivotal to the origins of the war and the direction it moved. Roosevelt and Churchills unspeakable support for such a murderous regime is entirely white washed.

The end of the documentary features two long extra documentaries about the holocaust which supports the classic narrative and account of the holocaust. It takes the propaganda of the holocaust on face value but that can be forgiven as most of the revisionist findings and investigations took place in the heady days of the 80s, which I think was after the documentary was produced .

In summary, The World At War, in my opinion is a good account of World War 2 from the perspective of the victorious allies.

The format and narrative can't be faulted though.


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