Would you trust Smoktech products?

[12stepCornelius]

I know they're a China based company. And those companies are the ones that made the e-cigs with the toxins in them and stuff right? Or were those toxins and whatnot only in the pre-filled stock cartridges? I'm getting a Smoktech starter kit from CopperCreek along with some juices. I'm new to this so went with a $40.00 kit. Ordered some Boge cartomizers too.

 

[12stepCornelius]

Ordered a drip tip too to go with the cartos, but wasn't sure if the Smoktech brand was considered one of the generic cheapo brands. I just got it because it was the only kit the site had and it seemed good enough. I also wanted an e-cig that resembled a real one for now since I'm just coming off the tobacco and it seemed like one of the best choices that allowed you to fill with your juice.

 

[Goldenkobold]

Smoktech is a pretty well known maker,
the "toxins" your talking about I assume are the ones in the old F.D.A. report which were all lower than other tobacco alternatives and not at what even the F.D.A. considers "toxic" levels (if they did consider such levels toxic they would have to pull the patch and gums...and of course all cigarettes which have many more toxic chemicals)

 

[12stepCornelius]

Ok. So it is one of the more well known ones. That makes me feel a little more comfortable with it. I'm only 21 and been smoking since I was around 17 and already having health problems over the past couple years (back pain, swollen glands, nosebleeds, and just feeling plain lethargic) along with price hikes, teeth already starting to stain a bit. So I was ready to give quitting another go you know? Hopefully I can stay quit. Being in the music scene doesn't help much because EVERYONE smokes in it where I am. But I figure one of these will help.

 

[Warren D. Lockaby]

I know they're a China based company. And those companies are the ones that made the e-cigs with the toxins in them and stuff right? Or were those toxins and whatnot only in the pre-filled stock cartridges? I'm getting a Smoktech starter kit from CopperCreek along with some juices. I'm new to this so went with a $40.00 kit. Ordered some Boge cartomizers too.

Smoktech is generally high-quality stuff; not sure which kit you ordered but I've been using their E-Power 14650 for about (I think) 5 months now, trouble-free & loving it. Also, though I've never dealt with them personally I know CopperCreek is highly regarded here on ECF so I'd say you're in good shape. What kit did you order, if I may ask?

Oh, Welcome to ECF, & Happy Vaping!

 

[12stepCornelius]

I did try one of these out a couple years ago and it was pretty awesome being able to smoke inside, in the car, and all the different flavors and units were pretty cool too. But that was 2 years ago and things have apparently changed with the vaping world (drip tips, dual coils, LR atties). Pretty overwhelming all over again so I consider myself a newbie again.

 

[12stepCornelius]

I got their 510 starter kit. Pretty basic. A couple batteries, an atomizer, charger, and 5 pre-filled cartridges (Which I plan on draining and replacing with the CC stuff). I also went on epipemods and ordered some long bottom pipe sauce. Sounded good and I'm a LOTR fan lol. Planning on getting one of their pipes once I get some more money. I'm mainly using this thing when I drink on the weekends. That's when the tobacco cravings really hit after I quit smoking. So I figured a hand-crafted wooden e-pipe would go awesome with some beers.

 

[ShogaNinja]

Here's my two cents, it's just an opinion so don't take it personally, although any facts I bring up I am more than willing to prove in public or private:

I read a forum post here on ECF that found no lead in the solder used in their cartomizers and they are generally decent (though I myself have thus far used only Boge and SLB cartos). From all the research I have done I saw several videos where they pulled the Smoktech dual coil cartos apart and the polyfill and the material that they wrap around the dual coil atomizer itself were burned clean through. You could look through the hole. I also read that BOGEs were much harder to kill and have even heard of them lasting 6 months or more so I went with BOGE. If you are using an EGO-style 510 battery you really have no need to be using a dual coil anyway because the low voltage is not where dual coils shine (so say GrimmGreen on YouTube, the king of vaper reviewers). If you want a personal recommendation I can see nothing wrong with my Boge 2.0 LR Cartos. I definitely like them better than my SLB ones that came with my KGO. Don't listen to the FDA. They found 1 out of the 15 CHINESE Cartridges (who uses cartridges any more - and who knows what dregs they dragged to get those carts) had a small amount of a toxic chemical found in antifreeze - so what else is new? This is the same China that put lead in baby toys and poison in baby formula. The FDA is paid by the government which is run by corporations. They approve all these food products that are super toxic for you in all the food people eat. Hydrogenated oils (see also: trans fat), refined flour, refined sugar, antibiotics and hormones in meat, jet fuel additives in the water that cattle drink (due to pollution) (btw: this is why europe won't import our meat - and also why I am vegan), the list goes on and on and on. Just remember that the FDA is not here for your long term protection - only the short term. If you die 30 years from now from diabetes or heart failure well then they did their job.

 

[Warren D. Lockaby]

Ok. So it is one of the more well known ones. That makes me feel a little more comfortable with it. I'm only 21 and been smoking since I was around 17 and already having health problems over the past couple years (back pain, swollen glands, nosebleeds, and just feeling plain lethargic) along with price hikes, teeth already starting to stain a bit. So I was ready to give quitting another go you know? Hopefully I can stay quit. Being in the music scene doesn't help much because EVERYONE smokes in it where I am. But I figure one of these will help.

I can relate to that... I'm an old picker myself & I guess it still just comes with the territory. Anyway these things DO work. Good luck & Vape on!

 

[Warren D. Lockaby]

Here's my two cents, it's just an opinion so don't take it personally, although any facts I bring up I am more than willing to prove in public or private:

I read a forum post here on ECF that found no lead in the solder used in their cartomizers and they are generally decent (though I myself have thus far used only Boge and SLB cartos). From all the research I have done I saw several videos where they pulled the Smoktech dual coil cartos apart and the polyfill and the material that they wrap around the dual coil atomizer itself were burned clean through. You could look through the hole. I also read that BOGEs were much harder to kill and have even heard of them lasting 6 months or more so I went with BOGE. If you are using an EGO-style 510 battery you really have no need to be using a dual coil anyway because the low voltage is not where dual coils shine (so say GrimmGreen on YouTube, the king of vaper reviewers). If you want a personal recommendation I can see nothing wrong with my Boge 2.0 LR Cartos. I definitely like them better than my SLB ones that came with my KGO. Don't listen to the FDA. They found 1 out of the 15 CHINESE Cartridges (who uses cartridges any more - and who knows what dregs they dragged to get those carts) had a small amount of a toxic chemical found in antifreeze - so what else is new? This is the same China that put lead in baby toys and poison in baby formula. The FDA is paid by the government which is run by corporations. They approve all these food products that are super toxic for you in all the food people eat. Hydrogenated oils (see also: trans fat), refined flour, refined sugar, antibiotics and hormones in meat, jet fuel additives in the water that cattle drink (due to pollution) (btw: this is why europe won't import our meat - and also why I am vegan), the list goes on and on and on. Just remember that the FDA is not here for your long term protection - only the short term. If you die 30 years from now from diabetes or heart failure well then they did their job.

I'll have to ditto most of that with a couple of additions: if you're using a cig-sized battery it *can not* hold the current capacity needed to run low resistance cartos or atomizers. So, for such batteries I would use nothing less than a 2.5 ohm carto or atty. That will pretty well rule out any dual coil, AFAIK. Low resistance stuff is made for bigger batteries, 450 mAh and above. I'm 'way out of date on all this stuff... used to work on TVs back when they were all full of tubes... but electrons will be electrons. I expect you can get away with using a 2.0 ohm Boge on a slim 510 batt. but it *will* shorten the battery's life, both between charges and, I expect, its useful, rechargeable life. (Oh, and agreed, you can't beat a Boge!)

Happy Vaping!

 

[carlton]

That will pretty well rule out any dual coil, AFAIK.

They do make dual coil carto's in assorted resistances, up to 3 ohms, I believe. But even then, those are going to work better at a higher voltage and with a bigger battery.


And I don't care how small they make transistors, nobody will be breaking Ohm's law anytime soon.

 

[tricci]

I trust Smoktech cartomizers, they're great!

 

[sailorman]

Nothing wrong with Smoketek cartos. Any carto will burn the filler if you run it too dry, especially if it's a LR model.
For the type of battery you're getting, I agree with Warren, it's too small for a LR coil. Stick to something between 2.2 and 2.7. You can go up to 3 or even higher, but you'll get a pretty weak vape. You can go to 2.0, but you'll degrade your battery faster. With the standard 510 battery, avoid dual coils altogether.

I am not speaking from reading. I vaped a 510 "stick" for quite awhile with all kinds of cartos and attys. I'm speaking from firsthand experience here.

 

[Dandafixr]

pretty much 99% of e-cig hardware is made in china (except mods) isn't it?

 

[elainedon]

I know they're a China based company. And those companies are the ones that made the e-cigs with the toxins in them and stuff right? Or were those toxins and whatnot only in the pre-filled stock cartridges? I'm getting a Smoktech starter kit from CopperCreek along with some juices. I'm new to this so went with a $40.00 kit. Ordered some Boge cartomizers too.

Don't lose sleep over the fact that they are a "China-based" company! Their stuff is top-notch quality!

 

[Warren D. Lockaby]

pretty much 99% of e-cig hardware is made in china (except mods) isn't it?

I expect that's close... or at least somewhere overseas, with the vast majority being from China. I also expect most of the components in mods made elsewhere come from China. It's just the state of our Global economy right now, and while it's true some of them do turn out their share of rubbish, Chinese companies are producing some quality products as well. And I could be wrong, but they seem to be getting better at it.

Vape Happily Ever After!

 

[Warren D. Lockaby]

They do make dual coil carto's in assorted resistances, up to 3 ohms, I believe. But even then, those are going to work better at a higher voltage and with a bigger battery.

Thanks for that info, Carlton, I sit corrected. I'd never seen any except the LR DC but then I'd never looked for any either. (wiping the egg off my face )


And I don't care how small they make transistors, nobody will be breaking Ohm's law anytime soon.

Nope, Ohms will be Ohms and the law allowing 'em to be that way is pretty much self-enforcing. Vape Ohm!

 

[sailorman]

I expect that's close... or at least somewhere overseas, with the vast majority being from China. I also expect most of the components in mods made elsewhere come from China. It's just the state of our Global economy right now, and while it's true some of them do turn out their share of rubbish, Chinese companies are producing some quality products as well. And I could be wrong, but they seem to be getting better at it.

Vape Happily Ever After!

They've been good at turning out quality products for many years. I learned long ago when I was more into the manufacturing end of things, that 90% of the reputation of shoddy quality wasn't the fault of the Chinese manufacturers. It was the fault of the American designers and especially the bean counters. You want good quality? They'll make it to your specs and it'll be good quality. You want cheap? They'll do that too, but it'll be shoddy and they don't care. The Chinese manufacturers aren't going to argue with you about it. They aren't going to say "but that was such a good washing machine in 1979. Why do you want us to turn it into a piece of junk?". That's what you specified, so that's what you'll get.

So it's no surprise that when they started designing their own stuff, they weren't geared up to do high quality. But, thanks mostly to the Europeans, they've learned how to make things better than the Americans always demanded. It's just taking them awhile to re-orient themselves.

 

[Blood_of_Adonis]

I'm using a SmokTech e-power 14650. Aside from the bum switch I got (replaced, now, with a newer generation of production. with higher QC) it's great. It's been a bit of a while since I used a regular 510. I moved on to eGos as soon as I found out about them and eventually bought an e-power as a cheap first "mod". I don't think I'd bother with proprietary batteries any more. Except, maybe, for the occasional want of a lightweight automatic battery, but then, I was thinking of making a 10400 battery mod with an old automatic switch from the first few series of e-cigs i bought a few years ago.

Unless, of course, I get lazy and never get around to that. Then I might buy an automatic 510 again.

For what it's worth, Cornelius, my favorite atomizer (so far) is the 510-T (tank). I don't get to try new things very often, though. I'm poor like that.

 

[Jeavany]

I've placed bulk orders with them (20 kits - mega dual coils ) and had only one issue. Because the chargers they supplied we're only 150ma not 420ma they would not charge the battery all the way. Other than that the products were IMO upto joye standards.