Wow! CNN "eatocracy" blog discussion is heating up.

[Recon Number 54]

Should e-cigarettes be banned from restaurants?

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Maybe it's just me, but I am seeing a few posters in those comments who have VERY similar usernames to ECF members. And a BIG plus, I am seeing more than a few references and recommendations being made (to the uneducated) that they visit this site/community in order to get better information.


In order to make this a discussable topic here, I guess that I should ask a question. Hmmmmmmmm. Got it!


How likely are YOU to post comments on news sites, blogs and other pages that are not dedicated to, but are discussing the topic of vaping? Me personally, I tend to wait and see how the existing discussion is going, if it is at least somewhat civil and open to multiple views (some are real echo-chambers) then I may add a comment or two. What about you?

 

[Caridwen]

If nothing else, everyone should vote!

 

[Chas F.]

jeez, I have no words. Started typing a response 2x and decided not to each time. Kinda like when I get ready to write a nasty-gram at work...and force myself to read and re-write it 3x.

 

[NiNi]

Gonna vote, but like you, Agavehound, I've got to rein it in.....I end up typing something like "stuck on stupid" in my frustration and it defeats my purpose, so I'm just going to READ!

 

[Recon Number 54]

jeez, I have no words. Started typing a response 2x and decided not to each time. Kinda like when I get ready to write a nasty-gram at work...and force myself to read and re-write it 3x.

Awwww, c'mon. It's the Internet.

The perception of supposed anonymity along with rampant ignorance is behind nearly every rage post ever made!

If you try to "class things up", you're going to wreck the curve.

 

[tj99959]

I've been vaping for quite some time, but I'll say this about that topic; I don't feel that I should be FORCED to enjoy (or not) your vapor while I'm eating dinner with my family. Our rights end where another persons begin. Please be respectful of others.








or I'll blow some crab juice vapor your way

 

[ScottP]

I've been vaping for quite some time, but I'll say this; I don't feel that I should be FORCED to enjoy (or not) your vapor while I'm eating dinner with my family. Our rights end where another persons begin. Please be respectful of others.

At the same time, I don't like being FORCED to enjoy (or not) your Perfume/Cologne and/or your screaming kid(s) but I don't think they should be banned either.

 

[Oomee]

I've been vaping for quite some time, but I'll say this about that topic; I don't feel that I should be FORCED to enjoy (or not) your vapor while I'm eating dinner with my family. Our rights end where another persons begin. Please be respectful of others.

I agree that it should be about respect , but at the same time not about banning .
Like I don't break into a rhapsody of earsplitting , nose-hair-melting farts at a restaurant , but it shouldn't be illegal .

Reminds me of that stunt (Jackass) were the guy had a rig in his pants that when a button was pressed it made it look like he had wet himself .
He was stood outside in a queue for a venue , when he pushed the button he got arrested !!

 

[tj99959]

At the same time, I don't like being FORCED to enjoy (or not) your Perfume/Cologne and/or your screaming kid(s) but I don't think they should be banned either.

True that ... or my barking dogs for that matter.

What we are really talking about in this case is "nuances value", and it should be handled in the same manor. It should be the proprietors option, not the governments. We then as consumers can decide if we want to patronize their business.





but I didn't like Starbucks coffee anyway

 

[Bryan lord]

Quote from the comment section.

"BrickellPrincess says:
September 26, 2013 at 3:17 pm
Get your “facts” straight! e-Cigarettes are a huge public health danger. The vapor is filled with unabsorbed nicotine and nicotine is a highly addictive drug. Anyone in the vicinity of that vapor will inhale it and become addicted to nicotine. These vapors create a higher nicotine addictive response than regular cigarette smoke. It is the equivalent of standing next to someone that is smoking ..... The vapors alone are enough to turn you into an addict as well."

Troll? Or are people really this ignorant?


-Lord

 

[tj99959]

I truly feel that many are that ignorant.

How many vapors knew that there was nicotine in their food until we started talking about it?

 

[Moonswanni]

Yes, I did.

 

[Chas F.]

Every one of the anti's that has posted there is begging to be called a hypocrite. How many of them drive a car, use plastic or disposed of a computer or a printer...gah, I could go on and on. It's about control, they don't like it, don't wanna see it so they want to stop us from doing it. How about a healthy dose of ....! sry, but my blood pressure starts to rise when I think about ...... like them and frankly, I'm about to go off on the next one to tell me to stay respectful!

 

[Ranic85]

Quote from the comment section.

"BrickellPrincess says:
September 26, 2013 at 3:17 pm
Get your “facts” straight! e-Cigarettes are a huge public health danger. The vapor is filled with unabsorbed nicotine and nicotine is a highly addictive drug. Anyone in the vicinity of that vapor will inhale it and become addicted to nicotine. These vapors create a higher nicotine addictive response than regular cigarette smoke. It is the equivalent of standing next to someone that is smoking ..... The vapors alone are enough to turn you into an addict as well."

Troll? Or are people really this ignorant?


-Lord

People are really that stupid.

 

[Moonswanni]

I've been vaping for quite some time, but I'll say this about that topic; I don't feel that I should be FORCED to enjoy (or not) your vapor while I'm eating dinner with my family. Our rights end where another persons begin. Please be respectful of others.

I agree with that for the most part, but most comments are not on topic but ecigs in general.

 

[yellowrider]

People are ignorant.. No question about that.. But, the true problem is that the one who is ignorant will fail to realize self ignorance.. .
I guess what I am saying is that crazy people do not think they are crazy, otherwise they would not be crazy..
So no cure to this issue..
I hope the next life will be better place...

But least vote..

 

[stewdude]

Quote from the comment section.

"BrickellPrincess says:
September 26, 2013 at 3:17 pm
Get your “facts” straight! e-Cigarettes are a huge public health danger. The vapor is filled with unabsorbed nicotine and nicotine is a highly addictive drug. Anyone in the vicinity of that vapor will inhale it and become addicted to nicotine. These vapors create a higher nicotine addictive response than regular cigarette smoke. It is the equivalent of standing next to someone that is smoking ..... The vapors alone are enough to turn you into an addict as well."

Troll? Or are people really this ignorant?




-Lord

I think that has to be a troll. If not some people really need help.

 

[tj99959]

 

[Moonswanni]

I'm surprised CNN didn't delete my comments. It appears this thread has gotten more "interesting'. Here are my comments (grammar issues included) although I'm sure some may disagree.

MoonSwanni

eCigs have been around for some time now. I have yet found one person using ecigs that has NOT been an ex-smoker. People do not associate smoking with looking "glamorous" these days. Kids who "smoke" ecigs are teased because they are not smoking "the real thing". The argument about flavor attracting kids is hogwash. You can buy 0 nicotine flavors. But if people are so worried about the children, I'm not against putting an age restriction against it.

All the arguments I've heard against ecigs are so weak. How about encouraging the product to help people end their cigarette addiction? How about looking at eCigs as something positive for a change?

MoonSwanni

Incorrect. It's true that some people do use it as an alternative to smoking, but there are those like me who are using it as a way to end their nicotine addiction. I have not touched cigarettes for three months and just reached 0 nicotine. I have a few more psychological hurdles to cross and I'm done. I anticipate to be done with the whole thing in a month or two. There are many success stories, but people only like to look at what fits their agenda.

MoonSwanni

As far as restaurants go, I think need to be reminded why smoking bans where implemented in the first place – the dangers of second-hand smoke. There is no smoke with eCigs. What are the "dangers" of nicotine carried by water vapor? What is the shelf-life of nicotine after the water dissipates? If one is against the issue, these are questions one SHOULD be asking. But its apparent, people just don't like and are uneducated about it.

MoonSwanni

First of all, its not smoke but water vapor. The second thing, not all people who use eCigs are using it as a nicotine delivery system like myself. I bet you wouldn't have such a problem if this person was chewing nicotine gum would you. And third, its not a .... but a battery. And fourth, you should educate yourself on the success rate of these devices and ecigs in general.

MoonSwanni

I appreciate your honesty and its aggravating when people argue this issue so strongly, but yet, know nothing about it. But people who use ecigs are not necessary using it as a nicotine delivery system; you can choose 0 nicotine strength. Many of us can kick the nicotine habit. The problem for us is the psychological and habit aspect of smoking.

The problem with the whole issue surrounding ecigs, is people think they are better than others, and use this to prove something to themselves. There is no second hand "smoke" from ecigs, but people want us outside because they don't like the way it looks. These are the same people who complain about the health affects of cigarettes, but yet will also complain about ecigs. It's about others trying to control other people's behavior on a superficial level. The reality is eCigs will overtake traditional tobacco in the future, and that is why the FDA is trying to regulate (TAX) it like tobacco.

MoonSwanni

Right! The comments on the post are amazing. So many people voicing their opinions without any knowledge about the subject. Anyone wondering why someone would "vape" 0 nicotine should read up on smoking and addiction.

MoonSwanni

I couldn't agree more. We live in a society that is more concern about what others are doing than their own reality.

MoonSwanni

Everyone has a vice including you. It's much easier to insult people than saying something positive.

 

[Oomee]

Every one of the anti's that has posted there is begging to be called a hypocrite. How many of them drive a car, use plastic or disposed of a computer or a printer...gah, I could go on and on. It's about control, they don't like it, don't wanna see it so they want to stop us from doing it. How about a healthy dose of ....! sry, but my blood pressure starts to rise when I think about ...... like them and frankly, I'm about to go off on the next one to tell me to stay respectful!

Oh lordy , don't get me started about cars .... downfall of the race they will be .