Wow! CNN "eatocracy" blog discussion is heating up.

[NiNi]

Funny you mentioned this, because I later found out that schizophrenia is a big business. I could never understand their obsession with trying to hang schizophrenia on me. They would tell me "we know you don't have schizophrenia" but we want to do this-and-that just to make sure. My family and I were dumb founded. I can't blame this on one set of doctors either. I went into psychosis several times and it was different hospitals each time. It was almost like this was some sort of protocol.

Yep, go into psychosis and the schizophrenia card comes up every time. Not all psychotic episodes are from schizophrenia, but all schizophrenia has psychotic episodes if not monitored, and the individual doesn't take an aggressive approach to their condition. That really is crappy you had to go through that. SOP in psych wards now are the patch, no "smoking". I wonder what their outlook is on vaping while in there? BTW: Current BF and previous husband both have psychotic episodes, so I know what an "adventure" they are. Bi-polar, PTSD and Panic Disorder for the BF (Nam), and paranoid schizophrenia, bi-polar, PTSD for the ex husband.

 

[NiNi]

Nicotine May Slow Progression to Alzheimer's Disease - Georgetown University

I'm a nurse and work with a fair number of dementia patients. Dementia/Alzheimers scares the heck out of me. The thought of 'losing my mind' is...well, I don't even want to think about it. <shudder>

I have just started in the last few months on that road with my BF. They started testing for Alzheimer's maybe 6 weeks ago through the VA hospital (the wheels turn VERY slowly) with him. So far, full blood screen and SLUMS test. He goes in the 26 of October for additional testing (another written/oral) and then the MRI. Frustrates the heck out of me. They're wasting precious time, if it comes back positive (which in all reality it looks like and runs in his family) that he could be doing things he REALLY wants to do before he can't do them anymore.
But I read about nic and Alzheimer's, very interesting, I didn't have a clue. He quit analogs a few weeks after I did (Thank goodness!) so I don't have to worry about a stinkie catching anything on fire, but he still likes his cigars.......
vaping is certainly working for us because in the last 9 months, Life has really thrown a bunch of rotten, stressful things at us, but we've kept on vaping.

 

[degnr8]

and I wouldn't be shocked to learn that Big Pharma pays for the publication of medical school text books.

You're not too far off here, but it's not really anything the doctors are doing wrong either. There are new "wonder drugs" coming out all the time. Far too quickly for anybody to keep up with, especially if they're trying to run a medical practice at the same time. The result being that the only source of information these docs have about the new drugs a lot of the time is the pharmaceutical rep that comes into their office for a few minutes states some study results out of context and leaves them with some samples. It's why I always tell people they need to do their own research on their meds. Sure the Dr is better qualified than you are but (s)he has thousands of drugs to try to keep up on. You only have a few.

 

[SharonH]

Another thing people miss is the benefits of nicotine. I just posted this on CNN (to a Barbara), so I'll plagiarize myself.

This reminds me about studies done on nicotine to combat depression, ADHD, and anxiety. Nicotine lessens the symptoms of these issues. The question that came up during the study, was were people using nicotine to regulate their symptoms. They speculated that people who have a hard time quitting cigarettes might be because of the "benefits" of nicotine.


The point is that nicotine does have benefits, and Barbara used the example of the benefits to Alzheimer's disease. If one is suffering from "mild cognitive impairment", and uses Ecigs as a remedy, is that so "tacky" and low-brow?

Nicotine Patch Improves Memory in People With Mild Cognitive Impairment - ABC News

Bingo. It infuriates me to no end when I see people talk about quitting smoking being about willpower. Ex-smokers are the worst. I run a multi-million dollar company. I've never had issues with quitting. The issues I have are being off of nicotine. I have normally low blood pressure and going off nicotine, I get orthostatic hypotension. I tried meds for it - which resulted in me vomiting blood (bleeding ulcer - nasty side effect). My concentration was awful even after quits as long as 6 months. Doc recommended a known ADHD med. So 2 meds with a battery of side effects vs nicotine whose primary side effect HELPS me. Alrighty. Sure, it's will power.

/rant over

 

[InTheClouds]

Quote from the comment section.

"BrickellPrincess says:
September 26, 2013 at 3:17 pm
Get your “facts” straight! e-Cigarettes are a huge public health danger. The vapor is filled with unabsorbed nicotine and nicotine is a highly addictive drug. Anyone in the vicinity of that vapor will inhale it and become addicted to nicotine. These vapors create a higher nicotine addictive response than regular cigarette smoke. It is the equivalent of standing next to someone that is smoking ..... The vapors alone are enough to turn you into an addict as well."

Troll? Or are people really this ignorant?


-Lord

It is truly scary what the uninformed believe and spew forth.

 

[InTheClouds]

My contribution to the madness over on that site:

Great job, thank you for posting such an informative, fact based response!

 

[RaceGun59]

Somewhere along the way these responses got away from the OP. Haven't you heard of divide and conquer? If we as a vaping community can't agree on a subject the antivaping groups will use that.