Wow, I need some advice

[Chocodile]

A brief backstory: I've been loving e-cigs for the last couple years. I've got the DSE-901s. I always knew there was better stuff out there and meant to try it. I finally bought a iTaste MVP 2.0; the main reason I went with it was because I could also use it as a power source... which is all I used it for, for about a year (a shame, I know). Anyway a few weeks ago I was low on atomizers so I finally fired it up. And it's awesome. I don't know why I never tried it before. But here's where I need a little help.

To start with, I'm not even sure on some of the terminology on how to ask this question. I'll try to communicate well, but bear with me as I don't know the lingo. Don't be afraid to ask for clarification if you have no idea what I'm talking about. With the DSE-901 I had the atomizer, the battery, and the cartridge. Easy enough. With this beast I'm not sure even where the atomizer is. Anyway, long story short, it quit working today so I'm guessing I burned out the atomizer. I went to order some more, but, to my disappointment, found out that I know so little about it that I don't even know what to order. So do I replace the whole... dang, not sure what it's called. After looking at about a thousand pictures on the Internet it looks like I have an "Innoken iClear 30." It's a big tank thingy with a mouthpiece. The category at the website I found it at is called "tanks and clearomizers." Anyway, is that all one piece? Or is there some kind of burner or atomizer or whatever INSIDE that I replace? Or is that whole thing the atomizer? What is it called? A tank? What's a clearomizer?

My next question (or set of questions rather) is what "tanks and clearomizers" (whichever I need) fit on the iTaste MVP 2.0? Do I need the "iClear 30" or is it up to me which one to use. I ask because the above mentioned website listed almost a hundred different "tanks and clearomizers." Are they standardized where everything fits or not? If I can pick any, how to I even start to choose which one I should get? Is there any website or something that compares them or personal recommendations anyone can give me? If they're not standardized does anyone know what the threads are on the itaste MVP, or can give me specific models of... things that would fit on there?

My final question involves whether or not I did anything wrong. Mine burnt out fairly quick so I was just wondering if I got unlucky or if I did something wrong. I know with the DSE-901 atomizers it's kind of a crap shoot. I've had some burn out the first day and some last for months and months. I had some other problems though. Sometimes juice would come into the mouthpiece and sometimes the airflow would be like... really tight. Does it harm them to be upside down? That was my theory as I kept it in my jacket pocket where it probably got sloshed around. I was just wondering if that's not good for them. Also, it seemed to be more troublesome when the tank was too full. It seemed to work better when there was just a little in there. It would get gurgly if that makes any sense. Are there any tips or tricks I should know?

Any advice would be greatly appreciated. Whether you take the time to type it out or give me a link or anything at all. At first I figured I'd find a forum and look for answers... but then I saw this forum has about a quarter of a million threads. I realize I'm just adding to the problem by starting a new one, but I don't want to do 20 hours of research. Thanks so much for your time!!!

 

[EBates]

Welcome aboard

Iclear 30 replacement coil
Atomizer head for Innokin iClear 30 Tank
Iclear 30 coil replacement
How To Replace A Coil On Iclear30 Tank - YouTube
The MVP2 has both 510 and Ego threads so virtually any Kanger, Innokin, Aspire tank (clearomizer) will work.
Flooding of the tank will result in gurgling and/or juice in the mouth piece (drip tip).
To clear flooding:
remove the tank from mod (battery), wrap the base of the tank with a paper towel/tissue, blow through the drip tip (mouth piece) two or three times, wipe away the ejected juice. Vape on.

 

[Muru]

The thing that came with your VTR is indeed a clearomizer, iClear 30. And yes, you can replace the heating element, which are usually called 'coils' or 'replacement heads'. So that's what you should be looking out for. Your VTR has 510-threading, so any clearonizer with 510-connection will work. You can also use clearomizers with ego-connection, but then you'll also need a 510-to-ego adapter.
Then, how to replace your coil. If there's juice in your tank, you'll need to drain that out first. You can do so by screwing off the top ring, where the mouthpiece (driptip) is. The driptip can come off to, just pull. And you can replace that with any 510-driptip. After you've emptied your tank, screw off the bottom ring. It'll come out with a long 'chimney' on top of which you'll find the coil. That can be screwed off the chimney and then replaced with a new one. Regular cleaning of your coil will prolong its life massively... Start off first with replacing your coil and we'll get into cleaning it later. Good luck!

 

[DingerCPA]

Welcome Chocodile!

There are a variety of "toppers" you can run on an MVP. It has both eGo and 510 threading, but you can always get an adapter if you like your atomizer/cartridges that you've been using with your 901.

There are clearomizers (tanks with single or dual coils), carto tanks (tank that uses a "cartomizer" - an atomizer with a filler material), rebuildables (sometimes they have a tank, and sometimes you have to "drip" or frequently add liquid to keep vaping)

Tanks typically have a base in which the coil (head/atomizer) screws in. There's a tank in which the liquid is loaded, and a mouthpiece/drip tip. The coils are the heating element which are wrapped around some kind of wicking material (what pulls the juice from the tank to the coil to be heated or vaporized.) Some might be single coils or dual coils - depends on the tank. Some of these clearos/tanks have replaceable parts; others are disposable.

Your iClear 30 is a 3mL clearomizer with a dual-coil head (see all the "octopus legs" - those are the wicks) The head is replaceable.

There's a user named Baditude who has a bunch of blogs, one of which is kind of a Vaping 101, especially when it comes to terminology. Do a search here in the forums, find his name and click on it to get to his blog links.

Everybody likes something different. It's all going to be based on your preferences. I personally like Nautilus and Protank2 clearomizers. Others prefer cartomizers and yet others swear only by rebuildables.

Good luck and keep coming back with your questions!

 

[edyle]

The iclear 30 has a replaceable coil inside; you take the tank apart and replace the coil head.

There is an iclear 30b and an iclear 30s.
the 30b has the coil head at the bottom.
The 30s has a coil head which looks a little like a bullet with holes on the sides through which you can see the wicks hanging down; the heating coil is actually at the top but the whole coil head bullet thing screws in the the bottom of the tank.

 

[Dickyjim]

Follow the directions above and you will be fine as for some of your other questions here you go. Your MVP is just the battery it is capable of running different voltages and more I suggest finding the manual or looking up the directions online because the device has a lot of features. Tanks and clearomizers are what you put your liquid in there are tons of them available and many have a replaceable coil or head as mentioned above. Your iclear 30 is made by innokin the same manufacturer as your MVP and will take that brands coil or head, They are available in different resistances (ohms). As far as the lifespan of the coils once again just like the crapshoot from the atomizers there are mass produced and sometimes you get a bad one. Now what tanks will fit your MVP, the MVP has 510 and ego threads (the most common in vaping) so most tanks you will find can be used however your old 901 is a different thread so it will not.

 

[Wow1420]

The thing that came with your VTR is indeed a clearomizer, iClear 30. And yes, you can replace the heating element, which are usually called 'coils' or 'replacement heads'. So that's what you should be looking out for. Your VTR has 510-threading, so any clearonizer with 510-connection will work. You can also use clearomizers with ego-connection, but then you'll also need a 510-to-ego adapter.
Then, how to replace your coil. If there's juice in your tank, you'll need to drain that out first. You can do so by screwing off the top ring, where the mouthpiece (driptip) is. The driptip can come off to, just pull. And you can replace that with any 510-driptip. After you've emptied your tank, screw off the bottom ring. It'll come out with a long 'chimney' on top of which you'll find the coil. That can be screwed off the chimney and then replaced with a new one. Regular cleaning of your coil will prolong its life massively... Start off first with replacing your coil and we'll get into cleaning it later. Good luck!

Umm, Chocodile said MVP, not VTR, so no ego adapter needed. The MVP has both ego and 510 threads, some most all common clearomizers will work with it.

 

[Susan~S]

Hello and welcome to the forum. Glad to have you here!

If you are interested in learning more about e-cigarettes (and all the parts and pieces) below are some blog posts by ECF member Baditude that I highly recommend for someone new to vaping and/or looking to upgrade.

1. A Good Starter's Setup for a Beginning Vapor
2. Advancing Up the Vaping Ladder with Egos and Mods
3. Proper terminology - Is it a carto, a tank, or what? A Guide to Juice Attachments.
4. Something Safe for Cinnamon and Citrus Flavors

Vaping Terminology

There is much duplication between these links. Some of these terms go way back to the beginning, when I started vaping 8 years ago.

1. A – Z E-Cig Glossary
2. e-Cigarette Jargon and Terms – eCig 101
3. Vaping Glossary - what does it all mean?
4. ECF Abbreviations 101

#4 is very handy when trying to decipher ECF members slang.

 

[Chocodile]

Wow, thanks so much for all the info! It's so cool that all of you took the time to answer my questions. I think it also helps a person learn a little more when multiple people answer the same question so you get it explained different ways. I didn't realize there were so many options. I bought the thing sorta on a whim (I see one of you is from Minneapolis- I picked it on my way through St. Cloud one time at a really cool e-cig shop they've got there) and I wished I'd have asked more questions when I bought it (my friends were sorta impatient and we were in a hurry); the nearest shop I know of is in Fargo which is over a hundred miles away from me, so you guys are an amazing resource.

Now that I have a pretty good idea of what's going on, I have one more question. Or... another series of questions I guess. Since I now know that almost if not any clearomizer (see, I'm learning) will fit on there which ones should I go with? One guy said he really liked the Nautilus and Protank2 I saw. What makes a person like one kind over another? What are the differences? Those guides you linked me were awesome, is there anything like that where the compare the different kinds of clearomizers? Or is the only way to know for sure what you like to just try a bunch of them? Are they all pretty much the same or are the differences that much?

That's a lot of questions. I guess the main problem is I have no idea what makes one better, or even different, than another. As a total neophyte they all look pretty much the same other than juice capacity. I really love the fact that even the smallest of them have, to me anyway, a lot of capacity. It's so awesome not to be constantly refilling it a few drops at a time. So, even the smallest ones seem so amazing I don't overly care about larger capacity. There must be other criteria people use to judge them though.

If experimenting with different kinds is the way to go I suppose I'll have to, but I'd really like to buy a whole bunch of one kind (for different flavors) and a ton of the coils so I just don't have to worry about running out for a good while. If there's a consensus that some are objectively better than others though maybe I'll just pick one and load up. Thanks again everyone!

 

[OlderNDirt]

Hi, Chocodile. Glad you are getting some good info here. and I am sure you will get a lot of different opinions about this question.

I have the MVP2 and really like the Kanger Aerotank Mega with it. I have 2 for my favorite flavors for easy, quick switching and then I have a few Kanger T3D smaller tanks for trying different flavors or switching to occasional flavors. All take the same coils, although I tend to use a higher ohm coil on the T3D's.

Now, having said that, I am tinkering with the idea of trying another brand (looking at the Aspire Nautilus which sounds fairly popular) instead of staying with the same thing I started vaping with. Since I am only 5 months into vaping and love my Kangers, I wonder as well if there isn't something out there even better. Welcome to the wild world of vaping and the never ending search for perfection.

Good luck.

 

[Brettanomyces]

Different tanks use different types of coils, some have airflow adjustments, some use glass or steel so certain types of juices don't ruin the tank(crack, craze, or melt). Some tanks have a tighter or looser draw which can also affect wicking capabilities (I find the iclear 30 to have a really tight draw), tanks with adjustable airflow will allow you to adjust the airflow to your liking and for optimal wicking.

The type of coil will affect flavor and vapor production and certain types like the top wicking coils in the iclear 30 are more prone to dry hits, the BVC(bottom vertical coil) used in some of the aspire tanks like the nautilus and nautilus mini have good flavor and wick well. The protank and aerotank are popular are popular as well but I don't know much about them.

I started with the Nautilus Mini on an MPV 2 and I liked it, I've since moved on to rebuildables which I like more but I plan on keeping the nautilus mini around as backup while I wouldn't hesitate to give away the iclear 30.

I almost forgot, welcome!

 

[Chocodile]

Ahhh... I see what you mean about the bottom coil...thing. Yeah, mine sometimes I'd have to roll it around a little to freshen it up. And it was tight! At one point it was so tight it wasn't working. I maybe shouldn't have done this, but it was about out of juice anyway, so I just let it burn without dragging for awhile. The first drag or two was burnt and disgusting, but after that it seemed to work way better. That's maybe not good for it though. It was just sort of an instinctual response.

Are there any downsides to the bottom coil? That seems like a better idea all around, but I was wondering if there's any cons to it. If not that definitely helps narrow it down.

The Aspire Nautilius and the Kanger Aerotank families seem to be well spoken of. Are the Kangers also bottom coiled? They also seem more expensive, so that's probably a good sign- although I know it doesn't always mean something is better. I'm not one of those people who likes to buy things just because they're expensive, but I just want something that will work well with minimal problems (I'm not unrealistic and I realize nothing is perfect). What about that Aspire Atlantis? That thing looks like a beast!

Also, are the coils easier to change on one thing than another? Convenience is definitely a factor for me. "Rebuildable" sounds cool and is probably the best, but it sounds like extra work which I want to avoid. At this point I will pay more for something easier (if it's as, or almost as good anyway). Unless it's really simple. I'm not very mechanical though. My ineptitude with that sorta stuff is not to be underestimated.

Thanks again everyone for all your advice. Keep it comin'! Also, I'm sure people ask questions like this all the time, so if you don't want to take the time for a personalized reply don't be afraid to paste a link or two. I've learned a lot looking around on this site, but this forum is so massive I can't even begin to even scratch the surface- or even find the answers I want, even though I'm sure there's probably 500 threads of this exact same stuff. Thanks again!!!

 

[sarahhonald]

If you are willing to get something other than an iClear 30 I would suggest the nautilus and nautilus mini as great choices...in my experience they perform better than pro tanks but everyone's experience is different. I have the mini and it is plenty big. Good luck!

 

[Brettanomyces]

I'm not that familiar with the Kanger tanks because after reading a bunch of reviews I settled on the nautilus mini and then moved on to RBAs before trying a bunch of other tanks, so I can't really help you on those. The nautilus is easy to change the coils on, you basically end up removing it every time you fill the tank.

The only drawback I'm aware of with the bottom coils is that they're more likely to flood, I haven't really had an issue with it though.

The atlantis looks interesting and might be a naughti killer but it's still very new, kanger also has a similar tank coming out as well. The big selling point on these is their sub-ohm capability which to me seems kind of pointless on a clearomizer, if the airflow and wicking is better that might make them a nice option.

Rebuildables are much easier than they look and can be even easier if you have a shop that will build coils for you but it's nowhere near as simple as a clearo where it's just fill and go for the most part.

This forum is big and it can be difficult to find info even using the search feature, I got lots of help when I asked questions so helping out on a few of the easier questions is just my way of paying it back.

 

[WaynesWorld]

Chocodile

Sounds like you're getting a lot of good info ... Just my 2 cents of experience. I use several of the MVP 2.0 exclusively and use the Kanger Aerotank V2 on all of them and have had GREAT experience. Easy to fill, easy to replace coils and GREAT vapor production.

Kanger Aerotank V2 - 101 Vape

Also, when you periodically get juice in the mouth piece or gurgling ... I've found a much quicker and less hassle way to clear it out. (Rather than take the entire tank off and blow) Just take a kleenex or napkin and put it over the mouth piece, you don't even need to take it off the Battery. Then just flick it in a downward motion about 10 times, (like you are using a hammer). Eureka ... problem solved. If there's still a little in ... just do it a few more times till nothing shows on the napkin.

Hope this helps ... Vape On

 

[jamtwo]

Hey Chocodile, looks like you've got most of your questions answered, but I figured I'd chime in being an owner of the MVP as well.

I bought mine at the same time I bought a Nautilus Mini and right off the bat, I was very pleased. I have noticed a couple of problems, mainly small problems not really with the tank, but I've gotten a few bummed coils that were brand new and would just not soak, which is unfortunate, but it's the replaceable piece of the tank so not too big of a deal IMO. I'm still happy using the Nautilus, but I picked up another MVP for dirt cheap, and I'm thinking about picking up a Kanger just for fun. Hope you're happy with whatever you end up with!

 

[jamtwo]

Hey Chocodile, looks like you've got most of your questions answered, but I figured I'd chime in being an owner of the MVP as well.

I bought mine at the same time I bought a Nautilus Mini and right off the bat, I was very pleased. I have noticed a couple of problems, mainly small problems not really with the tank, but I've gotten a few bummed coils that were brand new and would just not soak, which is unfortunate, but it's the replaceable piece of the tank so not too big of a deal IMO. I'm still happy using the Nautilus, but I picked up another MVP for dirt cheap, and I'm thinking about picking up a Kanger just for fun. Hope you're happy with whatever you end up with!