I had ordered some cartos from IkenVape which I recieved the other day. This morning I finally got around to loading one up with the spin method and tried it. I had started out a couple weeks ago with the carts, didn't like that and went to a drip tip and dripping. Dripping was ok, just didn't last very long before having to drip again. So with the carto, I'm beginning to see what it's really like. Tons of vapor, getting a lot more flavor. Now to see how long it lasts before having to top it off. So far, way, way, better.