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This is beyond comprehension. Snus has been used (and extensively studied) in Sweden for 200 years or more and is probably the safest of all the THR products on the planet.
I think that they use the studies relating to that vile Asian oral tobacco, and mouth cancer as excuse
 
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Hoping that I can stretch it out. Might try next mix slightly weaker

Wish the big bottles were offered standard, not just randomly in big orders

I checked PM. It was October 2019 jerry was considering closing within the next few days. But he did say to reach out if help was needed

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is another option, that page should have links to all individually

I tried CigRX--another product, now discontinued, by Star Scientific, the maker of dissolvable tobacco Ariva and Stonewal. It's a combination of anatabine citrate and Yerba Mate that's supposed to help with cravings. Not sure it does. I still have a few pills left. Rather disappointing. But Star Scientific made a lot of good research in the field of THR, alas, they are gone now. And so are their products. :cry:
 
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I tried CigRX--another product, now discontinued, by Star Scientific, the maker of dissolvable tobacco Ariva and Stonewal. It's a combination of anatabine citrate and Yerba Mate that's supposed to help with cravings. Not sure it does. I still have a few pills left. Rather disappointing. But Star Scientific made a lot of good research in the field of THR, alas, they are gone now. And so are their products. :cry:
I loaded the alkaloids I know in my cart (excluding continine) but it wouldn't let me check out anyway, without lab business details

Have you looked into the MAOI theory? I've not extensively, but apparently smoking produces no measurable changes during or after act. But smokers tend to have higher levels of MAOI B (the one that does not result in fatal interactions with cheese)

So I don't know if the MAOI B content is important or not

WTA vapers seem to have strong opinions on this, with little to base assumptions on. There will be exceptions to that rule, but the most vocal do not appear to base the information on science
 

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Did I ever. I followed every thread on the subject of the "missing ingredient." Whatever it is, I know that WTA (snus and dissolvable tobacco) work for me. WTA e-liquids not so much.
This puts a damper on my hope

I had hoped that the full spectrum might not be needed. And by process of elimination, I could isolate the smallest number of required alkaloids and go from scratch

I know that we need more than nicotine, but I had hoped that we didn't need all the ones that are in tobacco

Hope that makes sense

I love snus, and find some richer in the non nicotine alkaloids than others

I have maybe 5 rolls in the freezer
 

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I know that we need more than nicotine, but I had hoped that we didn't need all the ones that are in tobacco

In all fairness, I don't think anyone knows exactly what it is. It really is a complex combination of chemistry and behavior (hand-to-mouth, primarily). Maybe some day someone will figure it out...
 

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In all fairness, I don't think anyone knows exactly what it is. It really is a complex combination of chemistry and behavior (hand-to-mouth, primarily). Maybe some day someone will figure it out...
Doesn't help that it appears to be different for different people lol
 

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Hoping that I can stretch it out. Might try next mix slightly weaker

Wish the big bottles were offered standard, not just randomly in big orders

I checked PM. It was October 2019 jerry was considering closing within the next few days. But he did say to reach out if help was needed

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i did try passionflower 100 g Passionflower - Liquid Extract [Glycerine Based]

it is different though

covers the MAOI component, apparently, and harmala alkaloids, but not full spectrum of alkaloids

i imagine that anyone who shelled out for aroma over other brands probably wouldn't cope with the lower alkaloid either. Had some effect for me, not much
 

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With lack of options, I will be trying both A and B on release. Not hopeful. But no minor alkaloids anabasine, nornicotine, anatabine, cotinine and myosmine will drive me to the dry herb vapes, instead of liquid. So I really hope.

I have about 4 years supply of aroma in the freezer. And nicotine imports are set to be shut down here from January 1st. So hopefully I can stock up on something with the minor alkaloids prior to that
received this yesterday

type A is horrid (think MM)

type B is good. not aroma good, but enough that after a few tokes, i put the vape down without need to chain vape

after my sample, i ordered 7 bottles in the current free shipping deal
 

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received this yesterday

type A is horrid (think MM)

type B is good. not aroma good, but enough that after a few tokes, i put the vape down without need to chain vape

after my sample, i ordered 7 bottles in the current free shipping deal
Thank you for the scoop! Am trying to remember the % that Aroma infused in their flavored e-liquids. Do you recall? Was it 10%?
Then I will need to put my science cap on to dilute their mixture and add to my 6 mg juice. But one step at a time.
 
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Thank you for the scoop! Am trying to remember the % that Aroma infused in their flavored e-liquids. Do you recall? Was it 10%?
Then I will need to put my science cap on to dilute their mixture and add to my 6 mg juice. But one step at a time.
i think 10%

but, given this is 100mg that would be 10mg, and stronger than you vape?
 

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received this yesterday

type A is horrid (think MM)

type B is good. not aroma good, but enough that after a few tokes, i put the vape down without need to chain vape

after my sample, i ordered 7 bottles in the current free shipping deal
I received samples also.
I agree, Im not digging the type A as much as type B.
Im still experimenting with it and trying to form an opinion about it. It does seem to take an extra edge of things.
 
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i think 10%

but, given this is 100mg that would be 10mg, and stronger than you vape?
Yeah, for some reason I am having a hard time getting my noggin around it. Brain exhaustion lately. Before Aroma went out of business I was getting the 6 mg WTA (sub ohm I think it was called) and adding 10% to my other juices. For example: 3 ml WTA added to 30 ml juice.
Any suggestions welcome...
 
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Yeah, for some reason I am having a hard time getting my noggin around it. Brain exhaustion lately. Before Aroma went out of business I was getting the 6 mg WTA (sub ohm I think it was called) and adding 10% to my other juices. For example: 3 ml WTA added to 30 ml juice.
Any suggestions welcome...
My understanding is that the ratio of the minor alkaloids to nicotine is as you'd vape. So just add your regular nic level to 0 nic liquid?

I've only tried the 10ml sample so far. I could probably tweak over time

Hope that makes sense?
 
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