WTF Is Going On????

[LostVapeMonster]

It should not be this difficult and I am so freakin frustrated right now I am ready to give up completely. I am hoping someone here can help me. I got some brand new Smoktech DCCs yesterday and filled one last night. Now I have had problems with these in the past and I have tried every method out there for filling. Dripping, condom, syringe, etc. When I filled the new one last night I tried both at once, since it seems like they are not getting soaked enough. First I dripped into the top of the carto. Then to make sure liquid would get spread evenly throughout, I filled the same carto by condom method, and let it sit for a while. Probably a good hour, if not longer. I took the condom off the threaded end and put a clean, empty one, with the .... plug, back on, and then dropped some more juice into the top, until it looked a bit soupy. I covered it and left it overnight. This morning, I took of the top and it looked fairly dry so I dripped some more in and juice started coming out of the bottom. Then, just to be on the safe side, I did the condom method fill again, and let it sit again for at least another hour. Now you would think it would be good and soaked at this point, right? NO! When I went to vape with it, it already had the metallic taste after only a few hits and there was nothing there. It was like I was inhaling mostly air. So WTF???? Bad carto? It seems like it's already dried out even though I made sure to saturate it over and over again. OMG! I am so sick of this. I am going through way too many cartos and juice. It is not even cost effective for me to be vaping. I might as well be smoking. I am getting no satisfaction from it and I feel like it's entirely too difficult. So, anyone got any helpful tips? Someone please help me.

 

[Debian Dog]

Did you try a different juice?
What is the PG/VG ratio?
Did you try another DCC?

Edit: That being said. I do not like the way they vape myself. They work but... I will pass. Sticking with 2.0 Ohm single coil.

 

[sln88]

well, I am a complete newb so hopefully someone will have better advice for you. I was kind of having the same problems as you. My carto would be wet but it would inhale like it was dry. I got some G4 clears yesterday, and so far, so good.

 

[BardicDruid]

Well if your using a thick liquid like 100% VG it's not going to wick fast enough, another thing is that DCC's burn hot enough to leave empty spots in the filler. Those are just guess' since you didn't say how many volts you device is using or what type of liquid is in it, if you want better answers you need to let us have the info like what device, type of liquid (VG, PG, or combo with % of each).

 

[LostVapeMonster]

The juice was about a 60/40 mixture of an all PG juice and a 30/70 juice, so whatever that ratio ends up being? I am mathematically challenged, so I have no idea. I don't use all VG cuz I don't ike the lack of TH from it. I have an eGo, 3.7V, 900mah batt. How the heck would there be empty spots in the filler after all the filling I did and with it sitting over night? Uuuuuggghhh! I'm done. I just find this too frustrating. I have been at it since May I am still not thrilled with my vaping experience. Should it take so long?

 

[vapordraggin101]

Hi, maybe you should call the vendor, I'm sure they will help you, good luck.

 

[the_vape_nerd]

If I were you I'd go ahead and get some ce3s. I've only been using these for 3 days but they work pretty well. I've got a review up of these.

 

[cags]

I don't feel I have a lot of experience since I am still a joye 510 girl, but maybe you should try a different liquid delivery system? I use a clear smart cart/tank like this: http://www.breezesmokes.com/product.php?productid=126&cat=11&page=2 even though it doesn't seem to be one of the popular items, it works great for me. but let me say that I haven't seen any vaping supplies that are completely trouble free, so I think you have to go with what bothers you the least! the reo people seem to love their devices.... there is the drip on demand (dod) at madvapes that people seem to be liking - although it looks a little strange. I would try again before giving up completely. I have noticed that some days my devices don't seem to want to play nice and then the next day, the exact same devices seem to work great, what's up with that? but no, vaping is not as easy as smoking cigs...... and dieting is not as easy as just eating what you want LOL

 

[DAlberto]

Just started using the Smok dual coil cartos myself. I just load up a syringe with about 4mls of juice and squirted into the top slowly and started vaping right away. Good flavour and vapour but nothing more than I'd get with a regular mega carto or freshly cleaned ego-t B-type tank and atty, where it really seems to shine is in throat hit which is massive, almost a little too much for me really.

I have had one die on me within one day of use. I just went to change batteries and then ...nothing. My juices tend to be mostly straight VG. Major downside, for me, of these DCCs is that they go through massive amounts of juice which is to be expected since there is more coil surface area therefore more points for the liquid to vape. One thing that I have found that if you over fill a cart or a tank is flooding it can be very hard to vape nicely until some of the juice has been cleared out.

I've also been vaping since May and tried: 510 atties with carts and dripping (prefer dripping), ego-t B-type tank with regular and LR atties, xl clearomisers, mega cartos and just recently the Smok DCCs. My overall preferred method is the B-type tank with a regular atty. Since that time I have actually tried to smoke analogues (please no boos, heh) when I was in France and everyone was smoking around me, I couldn't even get halfway through one of my favourite brands (Gaulois Blonde) before I pulled out my ego-t and started on that instead.

I'm not sure what you mean by "Should it take so long?"

 

[LostVapeMonster]

I meant should it take so long for me to find what works for me? It seems I am always running into one problem or another. It's either the juice or the carto. So many people here talk about how much they love vaping and whatever juice they use and I just don't feel that way about it. I want to feel that way, but I just feel like it's enough to keep me from smoking and eventually it will get better... but it hasn't after 4 months. I feel like I'm still spending way too much - as much as, if not more than analogs - without getting any real pleasure from it. And it's so much work, mixing and filling and refilling, etc. I know it's supposed to be healthier, but I am the point where I'm ready to say "eff it". Hey, I only smoked a pack a day anyway. Probably not gonna kill me, right?

 

[Optimo]

You need to trash cartomizers and use tanks, ce2s or atomizers. I felt the same as you and had same problems with cartos always tasting like metal/polyfill after a cpl hits. Cartos suck really bad in my opinion.

 

[BoiseMike]

Hey, I only smoked a pack a day anyway. Probably not gonna kill me, right?

Might just kill you more slowly. Or maybe you'll get hit by a bus anyway and it won't really matter.

Anyway, all kidding aside. I've been using dual coil cartos from Madvapes for awhile now. If I get them too soggy they can produce little to no vapor. I always blow through them to get the excess out after I fill them. I know it wastes juice, but I really enjoy the performance. And I think that if they're kept too wet it may increase changes of getting clogged up.

 

[LostVapeMonster]

Boise,
Although I didn't include that in my first, very lengthy description of filling, I did do that. Thanks, though. Appreciate everyone's input.

Might just kill you more slowly. Or maybe you'll get hit by a bus anyway and it won't really matter.

Anyway, all kidding aside. I've been using dual coil cartos from Madvapes for awhile now. If I get them too soggy they can produce little to no vapor. I always blow through them to get the excess out after I fill them. I know it wastes juice, but I really enjoy the performance. And I think that if they're kept too wet it may increase changes of getting clogged up.

 

[DAlberto]

Ah, I see what you mean. I would actually consider a pack a day quite a lot but then again that's coming from me smoking 3-4 a day and then feeling like I had to switch since I felt I wanted to smoke more. I had actually stopped smoking for about 3 years, only smoking when I went on holiday and usually no more than a pack every 4-5 days.

Yeah, I think four months is a long time to not find what works for you. Although saying that I'm still experimenting with different methods but luckily I've found that I enjoy vaping with a couple of those formats. But I do like to switch it up every once in a while as I find I get too used to a particular setup or juice. I usually vape menthol or fruity juices but sometimes I get tired of them and switch to a stronger more tobacco-like juice in order not get 'burnt out' on just one juice.

What do you find lacking in vaping?

 

[juicejunky]

Best day in my vaping life was the switch to a bottom feeder -- for me the REO grand (folowed by a mini and mini woodvil). No more cartos to clean, waiting to wick, nasty polyfil old juice finish etc. Now I just fill the bottle, squonk, and go for a fairly consitent, predictable vape. I do have to blow out and occasionally clean the atomizers but that is so simple in comparison. Just blow into a tissue after a quick soak in Pure Grain Alcohol.

My equipment pile and paraphernalia are now just tissues, eliquid, attys, drip tips, my REOs, batteries, a charger, and a multimeter. When I go out I just take a REO and a spare battery. My attys even last longer now that it is so easy to keep them wet.

I don't miss cartos at all. I have a supply for emergencies, but never feel the need to revisit them.


Please don't give up. There is something out there in the world of PVs that will satisfy your vape style.

 

[atavanhalen]

I meant should it take so long for me to find what works for me? It seems I am always running into one problem or another. It's either the juice or the carto. So many people here talk about how much they love vaping and whatever juice they use and I just don't feel that way about it. I want to feel that way, but I just feel like it's enough to keep me from smoking and eventually it will get better... but it hasn't after 4 months. I feel like I'm still spending way too much - as much as, if not more than analogs - without getting any real pleasure from it. And it's so much work, mixing and filling and refilling, etc. I know it's supposed to be healthier, but I am the point where I'm ready to say "eff it". Hey, I only smoked a pack a day anyway. Probably not gonna kill me, right?

It took me over a year to find what works best for me, when i use cartos i plan on tossing them after 3 or 4 days because the way I vape causes them to burn, I like the 2ohm boge cartos and the single coil smoketech cartos, if you want better consistency then stick with boge because I have found quite a few bad single coils. One thing you need to know is that overfilling will cause problems as well, it drowns rthe coil so it cant work properly. Have you used boge lr or standard cartos?

 

[juicejunky]

Just thought of something. Are the air holes clean? Maybe you aren't getting enough air through so it's burning. Just a thought.

 

[LostVapeMonster]

I don't think I have tried the Boge cartos yet. Maybe that will be next on my list. Does Boge make the mega cartos? I don't want to go back to standard sized cartos.

To answer DAlberto... it's usually one thing or another that I'm not getting. If I get a good TH, there's not taste. If there's a decent taste, there's no TH. Sometimes the TH CHOKES me and there's very little vapor. Maybe I over filled the carto, but it seemed as if it was already dried out after a couple of hits. I just feel like this whole process is way too complicated. At least with analogs you just go to the store, buy 'em and light 'em. That's it! No filling and cleaning and refilling, etc. only to find you're vaping some horrid tasting mess that you've wasted even more money on. I am just so frustrated at this point. I figured by now it would be cake and it just isn't.

Thanks everyone for the responses. I'm still hanging in there... by a very thin and scraggly thread!

It took me over a year to find what works best for me, when i use cartos i plan on tossing them after 3 or 4 days because the way I vape causes them to burn, I like the 2ohm boge cartos and the single coil smoketech cartos, if you want better consistency then stick with boge because I have found quite a few bad single coils. One thing you need to know is that overfilling will cause problems as well, it drowns rthe coil so it cant work properly. Have you used boge lr or standard cartos?

 

[atavanhalen]

I don't think I have tried the Boge cartos yet. Maybe that will be next on my list. Does Boge make the mega cartos? I don't want to go back to standard sized cartos.

To answer DAlberto... it's usually one thing or another that I'm not getting. If I get a good TH, there's not taste. If there's a decent taste, there's no TH. Sometimes the TH CHOKES me and there's very little vapor. Maybe I over filled the carto, but it seemed as if it was already dried out after a couple of hits. I just feel like this whole process is way too complicated. At least with analogs you just go to the store, buy 'em and light 'em. That's it! No filling and cleaning and refilling, etc. only to find you're vaping some horrid tasting mess that you've wasted even more money on. I am just so frustrated at this point. I figured by now it would be cake and it just isn't.

Thanks everyone for the responses. I'm still hanging in there... by a very thin and scraggly thread!

I am gonna do my best to tell it like it is, unfortunately vaping is more complicated than regular smoking, there are so many options that it is easy to get lost in it all, and when you try something new and it doesnt work for you it can be very frustrating. On the other hand, it is great to have so many options because not every product suites every vaping style. Here is a for instance, I have tried the Ce2 style cartos, they did not work well at all for me but other people have great success with them, so I head off to the next thing. My vaping style is a really long draw to get a massive throat hit, flavor is next important to me and vapor is a very distant third. Every type of gear has drawbacks, so you kinda have to make compromises in order to find what works best for you. Xl cartos can be nice but because of the extra length they can be more difficult to wick properly, I do not think that boge cartos come in xl but dont quote me on that. To be totally honest, when I use cartos, I usually cant vape through more than a quarter of the juice that is in it because I vape so hard that it cant wick fast enough so I just top off very often, I know that seems like it defeats the purpose of the carto but it makes the carto last much longer and you also get better flavor a lot more often. Here are a few things that can come in handy, if you get TH that chokes you and little to no vapor, that normally means that it is overfilled, if it is from a carto, take the carto off and blow through the mouthend into a paper towel to get rid of the excess liquid. I really think that is what happened with this carto, either that or you got a bad one. If you get no TH and no flavor or burnt taste then the juice is not getting to the coil quick enough and you need to slow down and take breaks between hits to allow the liquid to get to the coil. Also another thing to remember is that not all juices do well in cartos, there are certain liquids that I love in an atty but put it in a carto and I wont vape it. Dual coils in my experience dont work very well at 3.7, I would instead try a lr single coil from the same makers of the dual which onlt comes in xl, or try boge lr cartos. Those are the two cartos that I like the most at 3.7, neither is perfect but once they are broke in they provide pretty good flavor. When you get a good single coil they are my favorite but imo the quality control isnt great so bad ones come along fairly often. The boges are a lot more consistent but do not come in xl. A lot of people like the ikenvape line of cartos as well and Isaac the owner is very good at helping people figure out what would be best for them. Also the single coils he sells are from the same company as the dual coils, he just changed them a bit for better performance. Ok I have rambled long enough but here is something to think about, if there is something that works really well for a lot of people and it does not work well for you then maybe you need to change certain things in order to get them to work properly, maybe pulse the button a few times if you take really long hits, if you take long hits then definitely take ten to twenty second breaks to let the carto catch up. I am not saying that this is the case with this situation it is just something to think about when trying new equipment. One last thing, I am not sure what you do for a living or if this is even an option but I get a lot more consistence vape when dripping using an atty. I know its a pain but I love dripping on a IKV lr 510 or 901. There is a learning curve to it but once it clicks, it is way better than any carto imo. If you do go that route then I would start with the 1.8 510 rather than the 1.5 because the 1.5 is even harder to learn and goes through juice quicker. one thing to remember as well is that using such low resistance on an ego will make your ego die much quicker than if using standard resistance atties. I am not great at putting all my thought together in an organized fashion so I hope that this was at least slightly helpful. Good luck.

 

[atavanhalen]

Sorry, I wish it wasnt so complicated but it is what it is. On the other hand, once you find what works for you, it is no longer complicated because you can just stick with what you like. I personally think the benefits far outweigh the negatives but vaping is not for everyone, it is an alternative to smoking and it is what it is.