Yes, my Chocolate Mint is cause toothstain... $0 solution right here!

[Firecrow]

I AM NOT SELLING ANYTHING.... READ ON...

First off, I wish I'd done a video for this, or even took pictures to prove this.

I recently bought a 2Puffs wide barrel short tip. My daily vape is a chocolate mint, and I chain vape this stuff.

Well, I noticed one of my front teeth developing a brown stain where I rest the tip in my mouth. I've been freaking out about it for a week. Today I had a major social event and did everything I could NOT to smile or show my teeth, that's how embarrassed I was.

I then started searching this site and others and there is a constant state of denial about this - yes, vaping CAN stain your teeth if its a dark liquid, of that I have no doubt.

In despair I started searching for hi-tech solutions, like tooth whitening kits etc. Everything has risks. I then remembered my memaw (grandmother). This quaint old lady never used toothpaste - she always used baking soda. I always thought that was odd as a kid. But she had great looking teeth.

So, I grabbed the baking soda and headed to the bathroom to experiment. I took a dollop of Crest (yes, a dollop is a valid scientific measure of quantity) and then used it to scoop out a big pile of baking soda on top of the paste. I have a good electric rotating brush. I turn it on and started scrubbing. I did the stained tooth, putting pressure on and moving back and forth and in circles. Did this for about a minute. I then rinsed and looked.

Some of the stain was GONE. Holy S**T. So, encouraged by this I took another pass at it and did my whole upper tooth surface in the front for about 6 minutes with 3 separate scoops of paste and powder... spat and rinsed... HOLY S**T again, the stain was not only gone, but the whiteness of my teeth was back!

I did my whole mouth like this and I would say I went up 3 brightness levels in whiteness, got rid of stains and it looks like I got a professional treatment at the dentist!

So, if you have staining issues, go grab an electric toothbrush (rotating head, saves scrubbing), some toothpaste and several tablespoons of baking soda and try this advice. I guarantee you will be ecstatic with the results.

'crow out.

 

[Firecrow]

Here is some additional advice with pretty pictures.

How to Whiten Teeth With Baking Soda: 7 Steps (with Pictures)

There is a warning that baking soda is a mild abrasive and not to overuse it. So thats the only downside. But for the occasional deep cleaning, its probably reasonably okay.

 

[SupplyDaddy]

Brush with peroxide now and then, let it set in the mouth, then rinse. Do not swallow it. Also a good rinse with it now and then helps too.

~sent from my galaxy mega using taptalk~

 

[Rickajho]

Here is some additional advice with pretty pictures.

How to Whiten Teeth With Baking Soda: 7 Steps (with Pictures)

There is a warning that baking soda is a mild abrasive and not to overuse it. So thats the only downside. But for the occasional deep cleaning, its probably reasonably okay.

Yeah that. I don't think it's a good idea to be having at your teeth with baking soda and a power toothbrush. I would run that one by a Dentist before doing that on a routine basis.

 

[Mrs C]

I would be far more concerned of the silica which is an ingredient in most toothpaste brands doing damage from over use, than baking soda which is water soluable.

 

[The Torch]

If grandma has been doing it for decades and still has all her teeth... then someone needs to actually look into what's really going on.

Yes, baking soda is a mild abrasive, but so is toothpaste! Just rub some toothpaste on transparent plastic lenses for 10 to 30 seconds and see how bad it can be. I'm out of baking soda at the moment, but I'm definitely going to try both side by side. The more transparent the job, the better the product is. Toothbrush bristles are also abrasive (anything you rub against a surface is abrasive in the end), but I'm being convinced by many people that you end up with much lower dentist bills using one and it doesn't have to be expensive at all.

 

[Firecrow]

If grandma has been doing it for decades and still has all her teeth... then someone needs to actually look into what's really going on.

Thats why I am not worried. She used it everyday for most of her life and died at 77 with all her enamel intact.

I passed on the warning because it was discussed in the other site - not because I agree with it.

I guess it would also depend on how hard you brushed each day, but as you pointed out, toothpaste is abrasive and baking soda is water soluble.

In any case, I am not suggesting daily use, I am suggesting it be used when you need a deep clean because you see staining or yellowing.

 

[Firecrow]

Yeah that. I don't think it's a good idea to be having at your teeth with baking soda and a power toothbrush. I would run that one by a Dentist before doing that on a routine basis.

Ok. I'll ask a dentist... oh looky here...

Baking Soda -- This mild abrasive has a mythology dating back to the early 20th century that makes it popular today. Many people think it helps fight gum disease and cleans teeth. The reality: it hasn't been shown to have any effect on periodontal disease. Why use a toothpaste with baking soda, then? If you like the taste or feel of toothpastes with baking soda, you're more likely to brush regularly, thus improving your oral health.
( All sonic toothbrushes should not be used with baking soda and/or peroxide toothpastes. These toothpaste products should be avoided as they contribute to cracks in the upper portion of the handle.)

Author(s): Kelly J Silhacek RDH, BS ; Kristin R Taake RDH, BS Source: Journal of Dental Hygiene Volume: 79 Number: 4 Page: 7
Publisher: American Dental Hygienists' Association


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So the risk is damage to your toothbrush, not your teeth..!

 

[The Torch]

Thats why I am not worried. She used it everyday for most of her life and died at 77 with all her enamel intact.

I passed on the warning because it was discussed in the other site - not because I agree with it.

I guess it would also depend on how hard you brushed each day, but as you pointed out, toothpaste is abrasive and baking soda is water soluble.

In any case, I am not suggesting daily use, I am suggesting it be used when you need a deep clean because you see staining or yellowing.

Arm & Hammer toothpaste does seem to suggest daily usage, but we can't really tell how much baking soda is in there... It didn't seem to make my teeth much whiter, but it does taste like baking soda.

 

[The Torch]

Ok. I'll ask a dentist... oh looky here...

Baking Soda -- This mild abrasive has a mythology dating back to the early 20th century that makes it popular today. Many people think it helps fight gum disease and cleans teeth. The reality: it hasn't been shown to have any effect on periodontal disease. Why use a toothpaste with baking soda, then? If you like the taste or feel of toothpastes with baking soda, you're more likely to brush regularly, thus improving your oral health.
( All sonic toothbrushes should not be used with baking soda and/or peroxide toothpastes. These toothpaste products should be avoided as they contribute to cracks in the upper portion of the handle.)


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So the risk is damage to your toothbrush, not your teeth..!

Baking soda is pretty much inert, so I am not surprised it does not fight gum diseases. I did notice that my toothbrush got softer much faster when using Arm & Hammer toothpaste. Not surprised either that peroxide could crack your toothbrush handle, but I do believe we overuse our toothbrushes way too much before throwing them out (or recycling them into a kitchen/bathroom cleaning tool, for which I believe we still overuse them for before throwing them out).

 

[Firecrow]

Further...

"Additionally, baking soda crystals are softer than enamel and dentine (a tooth's outer layers) and therefore can mechanically scrub off stains without scratching those parts of your smile."

Does baking soda whiten teeth? - HowStuffWorks

 

[Israfil]

Honestly...based on how baking soda whitens teeth (much like sandpaper strips paint) I would say don't do it too often. It does work though, works great.

Please note that my enamel is fairly soft...so if you have reasonably normal/hard enamel you should be fine.

 

[Nermal]

If you have rust stains in the tub due to chipped enamel, it can be easily be removed with a toothbrush and strong fluoride toothpaste.

You just can't imagine how long I've waited to share that little tidbit.

 

[nic_fix]

you should not really put pure baking soda on your teeth. it works by being highly abrasive. continued use can wear off the enamel causing serious damage and pain. I know people did it for years but I just figured id warn of this. this, told to me by a respected oral surgeon.

 

[danny4x4]

You can even use baking powder as a facial wash. Really smoothens the skin.

But what I'm really curious about is what is in your juice that caused the stain. When I vaped flavored juices, I've never had this staining. No matter how dark or thick the juices were. I can understand discoloration of the teeth, but I would expect the it to disappear after brushing.

 

[Avid]

Just throwing this out there... I don't believe baking soda on your teeth is a problem (but I'm not a dentist). What could be a problem though is scrubbing your teeth with an electric toothbrush! The proper way to use an electric toothbrush is to glide it over your teeth, not scrub with it. Let the bristles do the work!

 

[Robino1]

You can even use baking powder as a facial wash. Really smoothens the skin.

But what I'm really curious about is what is in your juice that caused the stain. When I vaped flavored juices, I've never had this staining. No matter how dark or thick the juices were. I can understand discoloration of the teeth, but I would expect the it to disappear after brushing.

My (highly) uneducated guess is that the OP rests her drip tip in the same spot All the time. If the OP has softer teeth enamel, this might cause a staining over time. Generally I never keep vaping from the same position (resting the drip tip near my teeth) but tend to place the drip tip past the row of teeth. I tend to bite down on the drip tip (that's why I prefer Delran tips).

 

[danny4x4]

My (highly) uneducated guess is that the OP rests her drip tip in the same spot All the time. If the OP has softer teeth enamel, this might cause a staining over time. Generally I never keep vaping from the same position (resting the drip tip near my teeth) but tend to place the drip tip past the row of teeth. I tend to bite down on the drip tip (that's why I prefer Delran tips).

That makes sense. Never thought of that as I tend to put my drip tip on my lips and purse around it. Seems gross to me to put it past the lips and get the tip wet with saliva. But that's just me.

 

[Robino1]

That makes sense. Never thought of that as I tend to put my drip tip on my lips and purse around it. Seems gross to me to put it past the lips and get the tip wet with saliva. But that's just me.

If others were using my drip tip.....yeah NO. Since it is only me and I do clean them....no biggie. Just like drinking through a straw
I used to purse my lips around cig butts, hence the lip lines normally called smokers wrinkles around the lips, but with drip tips? I am more conscious of pursing the lips and creating more of those lines.
I vape more from the side of my mouth so I don't have the tendency to purse my lips.

Funny how we never discussed this stuff when we smoked

 

[Firecrow]

My (highly) uneducated guess is that the OP rests her drip tip in the same spot All the time. If the OP has softer teeth enamel, this might cause a staining over time. Generally I never keep vaping from the same position (resting the drip tip near my teeth) but tend to place the drip tip past the row of teeth. I tend to bite down on the drip tip (that's why I prefer Delran tips).

I don't know about my enamel, but, yes, I vape from the same position as its comfortable and when I chain vape I'm not thinking about vaping, I'm on the computer or do something that has my attention.

Just throwing this out there... I don't believe baking soda on your teeth is a problem (but I'm not a dentist). What could be a problem though is scrubbing your teeth with an electric toothbrush! The proper way to use an electric toothbrush is to glide it over your teeth, not scrub with it. Let the bristles do the work!​

Thats what I do normally but it wasn't taking the stain out. It also one of those gizmos that times the brushing of each quadrant of your mouth. I also drink red wine a lot so that could also be contributing to the staining - but this stain was directly where I rest the tip, so there is no doubt where it came from. The liquid in question is FlavorCrafters Chocolate Mint and I go through about 60ml a week of it.

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you should not really put pure baking soda on your teeth. it works by being highly abrasive. continued use can wear off the enamel causing serious damage and pain. I know people did it for years but I just figured id warn of this. this, told to me by a respected oral surgeon.

There seems to be some contradictory advice. I quoted the information and sources earlier in the thread about baking soda and enamel.