You heard it here first folks!!! Incoming!

[jkmtwo]

Ugh......more anti big tobacco rants and fear mongering......YAY

Ugh more blissful ignorance, come back down to reality and take a look around. It's already happening.

Whats happening exactly here chicken little? Did they release the regulations yet?

 

[JuniorNA]

while I agree with everyone here, i also believe that fear mongering and worrying will get you nowhere. Skribble i understand that assuming nothing will happen is being ignorant, but there is not much we can do besides sign some online petitions. We don't have as much control as we think we do.

NO matter what happens, in terms of the US and its nicotine laws, there will always be ways to get Ecig related equipment and juice.
Whether it's from china, or from a local mom and pop shop shipping under the table.

There are vendors that probably have 5 years of stock - i'm sure they'll do anything to sell all that bulk, from paypal, or money orders, or personal check! no matter what, we'll still find a way.
I'm not being optimistic, or pessimistic, i'm just being realistic, we'll always find a way.
They banned drugs a while back, however the street drug market is still at 1 billion a week in profits right?

They banned replica watches in the US, but there are still millions of online vendors shipping directly from china, and they are near perfect quality

There will always be a place on the net, and in our hearts for ecigs.

 

[chuckie]

Im predicting this right now. New FDA APPROVED Blu Kits and disposables! The first FDA regulated pre filled cartos at $6.50 a pop which "will last about the same as a pack of analogs!!" Lol. I bet you guys anything this is what's comming. Cartos taxed at the price as a pack of analogs blu has already been bought out by big tobacco, the plan is for the fda to approve Blu and make it the only ecig available. ONE ECIG TO RULE THEM ALL. Better learn to start making things yourself.

Or you could just order from China for 1/10 the price.It's worked for me for years.

 

[el lobo furtivo]

Seriously though, look at how effective Prohibition was! I mean there were YEARS in the 20's when NOBODY could get alcohol! We're all doomed!!!!

 

[Skribble]

Really? How is that exactly? You think that advertising a product to grow our numbers, and yet again prove that ecigs do work to get people off of analogs is hurting our cause?

THATS RICH, and fails on every logical level.

The more mainstream we are, it would stand, logically speaking, that we have the high ground, both morally, and numbers wise.

But of course, I suppose I could be wrong, maybe if we stay in the corner and stay small our gov will leave us alone, like they do with those raw milk people.

This is the problem. Make too much noise and the government will want its cut, stay too quiet and Vaping won't expand and grow. It's lose lose. The way blu is advertising is making claims that ecigs help people quit smoking. The more we yell and scream that ecigs save lives and help people quie smoking is only going to make the FDA want to regulate it more. Something claiming it can help people quit smoking that isn't chantix or Nicorette? Not on the FDA's watch.

 

[Idaholandho]

Honestly, I prefer cool mint Listerine daily and the government to mind their own business.

 

[tj99959]

Really? How is that exactly? You think that advertising a product to grow our numbers, and yet again prove that ecigs do work to get people off of analogs is hurting our cause?

THATS RICH, and fails on every logical level.

The more mainstream we are, it would stand, logically speaking, that we have the high ground, both morally, and numbers wise.

But of course, I suppose I could be wrong, maybe if we stay in the corner and stay small our gov will leave us alone, like they do with those raw milk people.

Just why do you think cigarette adds are banned? Do you think e-cig adds have any less effect on the young?

"We are all adults here" ... my ....! Every kid in the country has seen that add.

 

[jkmtwo]

Really? How is that exactly? You think that advertising a product to grow our numbers, and yet again prove that ecigs do work to get people off of analogs is hurting our cause?

THATS RICH, and fails on every logical level.

The more mainstream we are, it would stand, logically speaking, that we have the high ground, both morally, and numbers wise.

But of course, I suppose I could be wrong, maybe if we stay in the corner and stay small our gov will leave us alone, like they do with those raw milk people.

This is the problem. Make too much noise and the government will want its cut, stay too quiet and Vaping won't expand and grow. It's lose lose. The way blu is advertising is making claims that ecigs help people quit smoking. The more we yell and scream that ecigs save lives and help people quie smoking is only going to make the FDA want to regulate it more. Something claiming it can help people quit smoking that isn't chantix or Nicorette? Not on the FDA's watch.

So let me get this straight....Blu, who happens to make a product that was designed to help people quit smoking, does exactly what it was designed to do, proven fact, should advertize this how exactly? As a penis growth therapy? A weight loss aid?

BTW Blu doesn't exactly come out and say that in their ads.

 

[MF DOOM]

I'm sure this and many variations of, have already been thought of by the very proactive members of this forum.
More than likely around when they STARTED bombing this forum with the petitions, and other call's too action.

Most of these member I've come to see, play for all the marbles man.

 

[jkmtwo]

Really? How is that exactly? You think that advertising a product to grow our numbers, and yet again prove that ecigs do work to get people off of analogs is hurting our cause?

THATS RICH, and fails on every logical level.

The more mainstream we are, it would stand, logically speaking, that we have the high ground, both morally, and numbers wise.

But of course, I suppose I could be wrong, maybe if we stay in the corner and stay small our gov will leave us alone, like they do with those raw milk people.

Just why do you think cigarette adds are banned? Do you think e-cig adds have any less effect on the young?

I think cigarette ads are banned because of irrational fear. Like this thread.

No, I don't think an ecig ad will affect the young, unless they want to stop smoking.

Did you get into ecigs after seeing a blu commercial?

 

[Skribble]

I apologize if I'm comming off as cynical, I just can't shake the feeling of something terrible comming our way. We all need to stick together if we are going to make it through this. If we can't count on each other the government has already won. They want us to come apart at the seams. I'm just shocked and appalled at the situation at hand. The FDA really needs to approve of eliquid? Really? Do they approve of cancer sticks? Why would the FDA approve something that is known to kill? Yet try to put a stop to something capable of saving lives. How greedy can they get

 

[Skribble]

So let me get this straight....Blu, who happens to make a product that was designed to help people quit smoking, does exactly what it was designed to do, proven fact, should advertize this how exactly? As a penis growth therapy? A weight loss aid?

BTW Blu doesn't exactly come out and say that in their ads.

Isn't this the problem? If you market it as a smoking cessation aid, the government has legal right to monitor and regulate it. It needs to be labeled as a recreational hobby, not a clinical cessation aid.

 

[jkmtwo]

I apologize if I'm comming off as cynical, I just can't shake the feeling of something terrible comming our way. We all need to stick together if we are going to make it through this. If we can't count on each other the government has already won. They want us to come apart at the seams. I'm just shocked and appalled at the situation at hand. The FDA really needs to approve of eliquid? Really? Do they approve of cancer sticks? Why would the FDA approve something that is known to kill? Yet try to put a stop to something capable of saving lives. How greedy can they get

Here is the problem with all of this, how many people on this forum who now are sounding the call to action, in November, voted for this very thing? If you want the nanny state, this is what the nanny state does.

This post was paid for by the Gary Johnson campaign.

 

[wonderland]

My juice vendor is already registered with the FDA (since they make more than e-liquid) and has everything in place to provide all necessary analyses on their e -liquids to the FDA. I'm fairly confident that they will make it through any new regulations smoothly. Although I feel safer than most, I'm still stocking my freezer with nicotine and stashing extra mechanical mods and rbas as funds permit.


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[jkmtwo]

So let me get this straight....Blu, who happens to make a product that was designed to help people quit smoking, does exactly what it was designed to do, proven fact, should advertize this how exactly? As a penis growth therapy? A weight loss aid?

BTW Blu doesn't exactly come out and say that in their ads.

Isn't this the problem? If you market it as a smoking cessation aid, the government has legal right to monitor and regulate it. It needs to be labeled as a recreational hobby, not a clinical cessation aid.

They aren't actually saying what you think their saying though.

 

[MorpheusPA]

Did you get into ecigs after seeing a blu commercial?

I love to say it. Yes! I saw the commercial, and my better half said, "Maybe you should look into that sometime."

I let it pass at the time, but the second time I saw it I did look into it and landed here. Where I ended up with a different brand, size, and style, which worked beautifully.

So while I only ever bought one Blu disposable to pre-test the concept, I have a sweet spot in my heart for Blu for helping me quit--indirectly.

 

[jkmtwo]

Did you get into ecigs after seeing a blu commercial?

I love to say it. Yes! I saw the commercial, and my better half said, "Maybe you should look into that sometime."

I let it pass at the time, but the second time I saw it I did look into it and landed here. Where I ended up with a different brand, size, and style, which worked beautifully.

So while I only ever bought one Blu disposable to pre-test the concept, I have a sweet spot in my heart for Blu for helping me quit--indirectly.

It goes without saying my comment was dirrected at someone who I know was around before these ads.

The other part of my comments holds true with you, you were a smoker, so of course the commercials caught your eye.

 

[Skribble]

I love to say it. Yes! I saw the commercial, and my better half said, "Maybe you should look into that sometime."

I let it pass at the time, but the second time I saw it I did look into it and landed here. Where I ended up with a different brand, size, and style, which worked beautifully.

So while I only ever bought one Blu disposable to pre-test the concept, I have a sweet spot in my heart for Blu for helping me quit--indirectly.

My first experience was with a blu disposable as well. It was well before these commercials though. I just happen to see one at Walgreens and I bought it, never looked back since. Though I don't think blu is the same company. Was it because the company was bought out by big tobacco that they changed? Or maybe this has been planned all along. It makes sense to say that blu was started by big tobacco in order to gain a foothold in the ecig industry. They are trying to collapse the whole thing from the inside.

 

[jkmtwo]

I love to say it. Yes! I saw the commercial, and my better half said, "Maybe you should look into that sometime."

I let it pass at the time, but the second time I saw it I did look into it and landed here. Where I ended up with a different brand, size, and style, which worked beautifully.

So while I only ever bought one Blu disposable to pre-test the concept, I have a sweet spot in my heart for Blu for helping me quit--indirectly.

My first experience was with a blu disposable as well. It was well before these commercials though. I just happen to see one at Walgreens and I bought it, never looked back since. Though I don't think blu is the same company. Was it because the company was bought out by big tobacco that they changed? Or maybe this has been planned all along. It makes sense to say that blu was started by big tobacco in order to gain a foothold in the ecig industry. They are trying to collapse the whole thing from the inside.

Yep.....that sounds pretty rational

 

[Skribble]

Yep.....that sounds pretty rational

Rational or not, if it walks like a duck, and talks like a duck....