You shouldn't go through a 15ml bottle in 5 days......

[mallie233]

I'm pretty sure most everyone on here knows this, but just in case you are a noob like me....

I was filling the S#$% out of my attys and they flooded constantly (so much that I had to keep a paper towel around them because the juice was coming out) and I went through 15ml in 5 days, (which is still a lot cheaper than regular smokes) but my husband then informed me that this was very wrong. My flavor would start to get bad and I would just juice the crap out of my atty until it poured everywhere (In my defense, it tasted waaaaaaaaaay stronger than it does now) but it would drop off and taste bad after only 3 puffs...so I would flood it again. So messy, so much wasted liquid, so much better now, although the taste isnt quite what it was, but just so you know, this is wrong. (I also was super worried about burning up my atty, which I had done with my last two that I felt justified constantly pouring juice in) the fact of the matter is, more juice is terrible for the atomizer and makes the bad taste come faster and more terrible..

Like I said, most everyone on here probably knows this, its probably a rare beginners mistake, but if i could throw this tip up there and it helps one person, I will embarrass myself for that!

 

[martha1014]

I go through 30 ml in 7 days but I rarely flood my atomizer. I wait until the vapor starts to decrease before adding more liquid.

 

[Kate51]

I'm using 30 ml in about 10 days, but at first was using 5ml+ of good Johnson Creek Original with good vapor output and good performing device. You do need time to settle in with a sort of schedule, which is established over time. But first you have to get your fight/flight/panic reactions into control. This will happen over time, when you've figured out that the e-cig and a hundred stand-by-parts and a stash of juice is going to still be there tomorrow, and you'll finally be able to just relax with that knowledge in hand. You're still fighting addiction to everything cigarette, not just the nicotine level. Different set of maintanance requirements!
First thing to remember is puffing with looong, gentle draws, get that atty to heat up long enough to make good vapor, not puffing harder cause it's not. It never will work that way.

 

[nubee]

I don't feel like a noob anymore (despite the handle) and to this day, I can still flood an atty.

I've found a few things lead to this IMHO.

1. Filler/Poly needs a clean. Seems it gets gooey over time, even within a day, and that allows the juice to flow instead of wick. Take it out, rinse, dry and go again after blowing atty out.

2. Heavy vaping followed by long lull. Juice seems to continue to wick/flow and then get thick in the atty bowl. Not much luck for me in vaping that off. I have to blow out the extra and start again.

3. Dirty and/or dying atty. Again, enough heat to get the juice flowing but not as much being vaped so it starts to fill 'er up again.

4. The juice. I have some flavors that rarely seem to flood and others that I can get to flooding by the end of the day - though I think this is in combination with 1 or many of the above.

And, on a good vaping day == no flooding, I go thru 6ml @ 18mg.

 

[Kate51]

Excellent points nubee. This is all part of the learning curve, all of us have an off-day when one (Or more!) of those components goes hay wire! That's part of learning the need to avoid panic reactions at all costs. Slow down, analyze.

 

[needvapor]

I don't feel like a noob anymore (despite the handle) and to this day, I can still flood an atty.

I've found a few things lead to this IMHO.

1. Filler/Poly needs a clean. Seems it gets gooey over time, even within a day, and that allows the juice to flow instead of wick. Take it out, rinse, dry and go again after blowing atty out.

2. Heavy vaping followed by long lull. Juice seems to continue to wick/flow and then get thick in the atty bowl. Not much luck for me in vaping that off. I have to blow out the extra and start again.

3. Dirty and/or dying atty. Again, enough heat to get the juice flowing but not as much being vaped so it starts to fill 'er up again.

4. The juice. I have some flavors that rarely seem to flood and others that I can get to flooding by the end of the day - though I think this is in combination with 1 or many of the above.

And, on a good vaping day == no flooding, I go thru 6ml @ 18mg.
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Well said!!
I go through abput 10ml a week but I drip on green cig cartomizers and sometimes add a drop or 2 of extra flavoring!
When I do use my 510 I use an edobit.. you can do a search for it.. you keep some flavor in the cart and then use the edobit on the atty.. I rarely get a funny atty taste anymore.. but quite honestly I am rarely attached from My KR808 and green cig carts.. to me its just an easier model to use and more vapor!!

 

[mallie233]

well, that's the thing though, my flavor would definitely drop off and I would have NO vapor at all! So I would just keep adding more. also, I guess I should say I was a pack a day smoker. My main point was that lots of liquid doesn't equal better taste/vapor. Just that it doesn't take nearly as much as I was putting on it, and day 5 of a new bottle, after figuring out this new technique is less than half gone, and I vape A LOT more than I smoked. with much better taste, and no leakage. I also drip onto atty and top of carts, I don't know if that's different for any of you...

 

[kristin]

A lot of your liquid is probably trapped in the filler, too. That is why you read about ht e cart modifications. The two most popular are the straw method and the PTB filler (using cleaned out Lipton Pyramid tea bags). It helps the liquid at the bottom of the cart get to your atomizer more efficiently, so the atty doesn't taste dry as quickly. You'll find you're vapinog longer between refills and "topping off" now takes 8-10 drops kinstead of only allowing 2-3 before it is filled.

Go to the FAQs link below and check out question #4 for more info!

 

[doots]

what type atty are you using? Like kristin said,
most probably in your filler material in the cart.

I have seen lots of juice in the filler material and still acts like it needs juice. Most likely culprit is the filler material isnt making contact with the bridge of atty and atomizing it as it should.

I see this with 801's sometimes.

Have you replaced the filler material in the cart and started fresh? Could help a lot.

 

[mallie233]

I originally had the 510 atty, burned two of them to nothingness, and then I ordered the 306 to do straight dripping/ dipping. I've since seen my improvements in putting the 306 filler back in the cart and topping it off while dripping on the atty. just a mix of the two has really helped. I'm sketched out about the straw mod though. don't want to burn the plastic on the atty and have another fail.
and I do clean out the filler when the flavor just stays bad.

 

[Kate51]

I used a smaller NPro for a few weeks, but got tired of the seemingly constant filling, so went to an 801 (penstyle, now have a Janty Stick) and I can go for 2-3 hours before I have to refill. I cannot imagine having to keep topping off after 3 drops are gone, would make me crazy and wouldn't get anything else done.
You apparently are over-filling or vaping too fast or pulling (puffing) too hard, pulling more juice out of the cart than your atty can get sufficiently heated. If this is wrong, just ignore it, but you shouldn't be strapped to your juice bottle the way it sounds you are. That is all I'm saying...take very slow, long, gentle puffs for best vapor production.
Sounds like you're frustrated, I would be too!! You should be getting at least 8-10 great big puffs of vapor before re-filling on even the smallest carts, way more as with an 801 cart. Maybe you also need to tic up your nicotine a bit, may help you to slow down your puffs per minute a bit. And be more satisfied with a slower pace.
Faster, harder puffing just dries the part of the filler closest to the atty, if you space out your puffs more and puff more gently, you'll find it a little more efficient and use up the whole cartful. Burning is not a good thing as you know.
I've never been into "dripping" or "dropping", I want a nice efficient e-cig, with good battery/atty connected with a cart that's got enough capacity to gently feed enough juice to the atty and give me a nice satisfying big puff for a sufficient number of puffs. Frustration is best avoided that way, that was my goal, to tame down the Panic Factor. Be able to slow down and relax with my new toy.

 

[Hellen A. Handbasket]

Mallie, try switching over to the Lipton Tea Bags in the Pyramid style (a gossamer material similar to organza). Works great in the 510 with no worries about scorching anything (even a straw is ok... I use the plastic q-tip straws since they're tiny, but since using the PTB mod, don't need them!).

There are great videos on using them. I use the folded top method that seems to bring the liquid to the top where it sits on the bridge and it wicks well!

The PTB can be rinsed and reused. It is great stuff (have a cup of tea, then empty it out, rinse and use it for your 510. Yummy Tea flavors!)

 

[mallie233]

Mallie, try switching over to the Lipton Tea Bags in the Pyramid style (a gossamer material similar to organza). Works great in the 510 with no worries about scorching anything (even a straw is ok... I use the plastic q-tip straws since they're tiny, but since using the PTB mod, don't need them!).

There are great videos on using them. I use the folded top method that seems to bring the liquid to the top where it sits on the bridge and it wicks well!

The PTB can be rinsed and reused. It is great stuff (have a cup of tea, then empty it out, rinse and use it for your 510. Yummy Tea flavors!)

how long before they need to be re-juiced?
i've heard a lot about this mod, and others.
but my supplier warned me against messing with this stuff too much..
I don't want to have to buy any more replacement parts just yet

 

[Hellen A. Handbasket]

Nah, no worries. If anything it will help to keep your atomizer wet, which means a long life for it. I have yet to lose a 510 atomizer (4 plus months).

Everyone vapes differently, so I can't tell you how long. When vapor drops off, or starts to change flavor, add liquid! Also, if you get into the habit of adding one drop on to the atomizer bridge each time you refill a cartridge, you'll always have a well running atty and never experience a harsh or burned taste.

 

[MissVapor]

wow..15 ml lasts me months...using a 510, i drip 1-2 drops on the atty fora cigarettes worth..Are you using filler or direct dripping?

 

[dee5]

You really should try the straw mod. I used to have to top off my 901 way too often but now it will take 7-8 drops and I can puff til its nearly dry. Just cut the straw short enough that it can't reach the atomizer, no worries about melting plastic!

 

[Kavik79]

wow..15 ml lasts me months...using a 510, i drip 1-2 drops on the atty fora cigarettes worth..Are you using filler or direct dripping?

okay, i thought i was nuts seeing some of these numbers, till I got to this post. I'm about 2 weeks in, and not quite half way through my first 30ml bottle! I can't imagine the amount of vaping needed to go through 6ml in a day! I just went away for 2 days, brought one 6ml bottle with me, and didn't get through half of it

 

[MHR7331]

I had a real bad time with atty flooding... started out with standard fuzzy crap in my carts; went to PTBs, but the flooding persisted. I started using the PTB plug thing and the flooding issue is now totally gone. No more leaking, no more gurgling. For a time I thought that gurgling noise from the atty was normal LOL...

 

[mallie233]

For a time I thought that gurgling noise from the atty was normal LOL...

haha, I knew it was wrong, I just didn't know how hard it was for my atty to vaporize it. I don't ever have the gurgle anymore..

 

[Bubo]

It might also be that the stock filler in the cart might be too tight....
I have reloaded mine with fluval, and it's much looser than the factory origianls... (My theory is that it is just in there to keep the eJuice from falling out anyway!)

If you want to try to loosen up the wadding, take it out and cut one third to one half off lengthwise, and stick it back in (I use tweezers)...