Zmax v3 Flat top vs Provari mini. Go for the Zmax or wait and get mini ?

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So I keep watching classifieds to get a Provari mini and while Ive been doing that Ive been looking at other mods and came across the Zmax v3 flat top.Now Im wondering should I hold out and get the provari mini or go for the Zmax flat top.Anyone own both? The Zmax is pretty sweet looking and seeing as I will use it in 18350 mode most of the time seems pretty good set up for half the money.I use vapage dripping atty and cartos so dont care if either device isnt flush looking with tanks or RBAs or clearos. Opinions please :)
 

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I own a lot of mods. Two provaris, two zmaxes, and a long list of mech mods. TBH with you save the money and get the zmax. The provari is nice but not worth the money IMO. If your gonna spend that much I would recommend a really nice mech mod and a rebuildable atty if you are into tinkering and building your own stuff. I havent touched my provaris in over a month. The zmax however does get occasional use due to the high amp limit (5 amps to the provaris 3.5). All the provari fans will come on here and say its the be all end all of vaping but I can assure you from my perspective it is not. Sure its well built with great support but this day in vaping it just costs too much..



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I'll agree with that, but I'll go a step further. I think just about all mods are overpriced. What is a mod? You break it down and at its most basic it's a tube that holds a battery. For all intents and purposes it's no different than a flashlight with a $2 regulator. I don't know of any flashlights that cost $50 much less $200.
 

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I'll agree with that, but I'll go a step further. I think just about all mods are overpriced. What is a mod? You break it down and at its most basic it's a tube that holds a battery. For all intents and purposes it's no different than a flashlight with a $2 regulator. I don't know of any flashlights that cost $50 much less $200.

some switches on mech mods are very intricate and expensive to make
 

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There is one issue which the DON'T mention very much...
The ZMax promises 15 watts, right?
WRONG, you only get that much power out of it with stacked 18350's, with single battery you end up getting out just around 12 watts at the most.
With the Provari EVEN from 18350 you get out the promised 15 watts.
Does this really matter if everything I use is either 1.7 ohms or 2.0 oms at between 3.8 to 4.3v ?
 

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In that case NO, but I generally like to get the performance promised and they fail to mention, that you get the 15 watts ONLY when stacking your batts which sadly applies to ALL current chinese VW's be they ZMax or SVD.
Ok thanks :) I agree though that it should get what they say it does.
 

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In that case NO, but I generally like to get the performance promised and they fail to mention, that you get the 15 watts ONLY when stacking your batts which sadly applies to ALL current chinese VW's be they ZMax or SVD.

This is true, you do need the stacked batts to get 15 watts. Although in your case i guess it doesnt matter. Like I said before I would recomend the mech mod and rebuildable atty combo. You can get as many watts as you want until your battery explodes lol.----not condoning or telling anyone to try that so please dont
 

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I like my Seg flat zmax tele... Dont own a provari, but this guy does, you should IM him.


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I love the look and quality that comes with Provari but its hard to spend twice the cost of Zmax .
This subject always comes up when comparing a Provari with any other VV PV.

Consider for a moment how long you plan on vaping. Are you planning on quitting in the next year or two? If so, the Provari likely isn't the mod for you. It's designed for the long term vapor. It will likely last as long as you are living, and they'll likely find you with it in your hand when you finally pass on. Because of it's uncommon build durability and the fact that Provape will repair a Provari for as long as you own it, it can be considered to be a worthwhile long term investment. When paying for that initial Provari purchase, part of that is going towards Provape's excellent long term customer service, even after the warranty is expired. Name me ONE Chinese-made PV that offers that long of a service? The Z-max might last as long as a Provari, but if it doesn't you won't be able to get it repaired; you'll always have that option with a Provari.

You'll counter that the Provari will eventually become out-dated (some say that it already is) and will eventually be replaced by another mod. People have been saying that for three years or so, and the Provari is still a hot seller. It retains its resale value as well as any other PV. I believe the Provari will always be a player in the mix, even when something else finally surpasses its well-deserved reputation. I liken it to one of the original mechanical mods: the Altsmoke Silver Bullet. It hasn't changed much in the few years that it has been in production, and is just as popular today as it ever was. There will always be a demand for a well built, durable PV that has good customer support by it's manufacturer for as long as you own it. I don't see a Provari ever becoming obsolete, at the very worst it would become a great dependable backup for years.

The Provari will always be your most consistant and dependable mod in your collection. The thing just works as expected every time. The same vaping experience from the beginning to the end of each battery. I have the full size Provari with ext. cap. It's admittingly quite hefty to carry around everywhere despite its relatively average size for a PV. I bought two gripper-style VV box mods to take its place when out-and-about. I still grab for the Provari 90% of the time, it just gives me a better vape.

You might not be one to care much for the Provari's looks. But more third party manufacturers design special hardware for the Provari than any other PV. The Zap rba, the Kir Fanis cartotanks, the Vaporfexion Pro-V cartotanks, the Provari Pro Rings, The Kir Fanis battery extension cap for the Mini, the Twins battery extension cap for the Mini, etc. PV designers love the look of the Provari.

Do these factors make the Provari worth twice the cost of a Z-max? Only you can answer that.
 
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I went with the Zmax after great internal debate. The main reason were the cost and features. I don't really care much what it looks like as long as its not huge. The way I see it is I like to have the latest technology hitting the market and versitality. The Zmax provides them both and at half the cost of a provari. Sure the provari I can pass on to my grand children but are they going to want a dinosaur? Am I going to want a dinosaur in 10 years or even 5. Certainly in 5 years technology will change in vaping enough to make the provari obsolete. It's was said above that might be the case now. I'm certain I can make my Zmax last 5 years. If not I'll by another and still be under the cost of the provari. Plus the provari doesn't have VW and it's not telescopic. I think it's a no brainier. Would you pay twice a much for a computer that was guaranteed to last 20 years? No, your not going to want your computer in 20 years.
 
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