Tinman, I don't hate the outdoors at all. But in the time since I quit smoking, I've chosen not to go outside every time I want to vape because of the association to smoking. I still love camping, biking, hiking, and most of all, just being outside. It's a temporary sacrifice until I feel certain that I won't smoke in the place that I smoked the most cigarettes, my backyard. I still vape outside in public places because once people see me
vaping, I don't want to bum a cigarette which might negate that pvs work in their eyes.