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Bench Test Results: EVE 26V – 7.5A 2550mAh 18650…less expensive alternative for low power use

These tests below only note my personal ESTIMATED ratings for the batteries I tested at the time I tested them. Any battery that is not a genuine Samsung, Sony, Murata, LG, Panasonic, Molicel, or Sanyo can change at any time! This is one of the hazards of using “rewrapped” or batteries from other manufacturers so carefully research any battery you are considering using before purchasing.

Misusing or mishandling lithium-ion batteries can pose a SERIOUS RISK of property damage, personal injury, or even death. They are not supposed to be used outside of a fully protected battery pack and you use them at your own risk. Never exceed the battery’s true continuous current rating and keep the plastic wrap and top insulating ring in perfect condition.

Testing batteries at their limits is dangerous and should never be attempted by anyone who has not thoroughly studied the dangers involved, understands the risks, has the proper equipment, and takes all appropriate safety precautions.

If the battery has only one current rating number, or if it only says "max", then I have to assume the battery is rated at that current level for any type of discharge, including continuous.

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Test Results
EVE is one of the large, established cell manufacturers in China (EVE). This is a moderate-capacity cell for low power applications and where lower cost could be a priority over performance, e.g., powerbanks, powerwalls, and larger PEV battery packs.

This cell is rated by EVE at 7.5A but I recommend staying below 5A to reduce the voltage sag and help to extend cell life. The standard charge rate is only 0.5A and the fast/rapid charge rate is 1.25A. Never charge this cell at above 1.25A.

The cycle life rating in the datasheet is decent but I have not tested it.

The two cells I tested delivered 2689mAh and 2711mAh. This is well above their 2550mAh nominal capacity rating. Their consistency is average for cells I’ve seen from the larger China cell manufacturers.

Two cells were purchased for testing by me.


Continuous Current Discharge Graphs
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Ratings and Performance Specs Graphic
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To see how other cells have tested check out this link: List of Battery Tests | E-Cigarette Forum

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Share Your "Clone" Recipes ?

OK, this is going to fall flat, badly....
With so many Vendors falling by the wayside, and so many vapers wanting their old favorites, maybe we could share recipes that are similar to, or reasonably similar to, old favorites.
I only have three, but here they are ;

Blade Runner (Heather's Heavenly Vapes)

Shisha Vanilla (INA) - 8%
Creme de Menthe (TFA) - 2%

Banana Cream Pie (RAWR)

Banana Cream Pie (TFA) - 6%
DX Bavarian Creme (TFA) - 2%
Graham Cracker (CAP) - 2%
Sweet Cream (TFA) - 2%
(honestly, it's been years since I ordered from RAWR, but the flavor seems to match)

This next one is a combination of flavors offered at Highbrow Vapors. They encouraged their customers to mix and match in that fashion.
Blueberry Cheesecake (Highbrow Vapors)

Cheesecake Graham Cracker Crust (TFA) - 4%
Blueberry Extra (TFA) - 3%
Blueberry Jam - (CAP) - 2%
New York Cheesecake (CAP) - 2%
Vanilla Swirl (TFA) - 2%
Marshmallow (TFA) -1%

All of these are tailored to my own personal tastes. You may not agree, but hopefully these recipes will help someone find a suitable replacement for e-liquids no longer available to them.
Please feel free to offer any 'clone' recipes you might have. Thanks.

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What do cell ratings actually tell us? Part 6B: Temperature

This post is a continuation of Part 6A.

75°C / 167°F
At roughly this temperature there are compounds inside the cell that start breaking down and creating gas. If this happens for long enough the cell’s venting disk could pop open to relieve the pressure (ruining the cell) or the CID (current interrupt device) inside the cell could trigger to stop the current flow (also ruining the cell).

Some of the reactions that break down the cell internally are exothermic, they produce heat. If this heat cannot escape or is being generated too quickly this is the start of what can eventually lead to thermal runaway and the destruction of the cell.

When using a cell very hard you get two things working against you. Part of the internal resistance of the cell causes it to heat up. This can cause the cell to get hot enough to start the exothermic reactions which causes the cell to get even hotter. This causes more exothermic reactions to start and so on. All these reactions start to feed each other and “run away”, leading to the dreaded thermal runaway event.

100°C / 212°F and higher
This where it gets murky. It’s the lowest thermal runaway threshold temperature I’ve seen listed in a research paper for a li-ion cell but that threshold can also be over 250°C.

So much depends on the chemistry of the cell, how fast the heat is being created, and how fast that heat can escape. A cell that is well insulated will hold on to its heat, forcing it into thermal runaway faster than a cell in an actively cooled environment.

The entire cell does not have to reach the thermal runaway threshold for it to go into runaway. Only one small point inside the cell does. If this happens, and the cell can’t move that heat away quickly enough, then that point will go into runaway. This creates more heat which spreads to adjoining parts of the cell which now also go into runaway.

This can very quickly spread throughout a cell even though the outside of a cell has barely increased temperature. It typically take a short-circuit to do this though, either internal or external.

Up to several hundred degrees-C/F
This is the range of temperatures for a cell in thermal runaway. It can be hot enough to melt the aluminum inside the cell and there has even been research showing beads of copper in the debris, which melts at 1085°C/1984°F! Thin foil sheets of aluminum and copper are what the battery “goop” is spread on and which is then rolled up and put in the metal can.

I am pretty sure temperatures high enough to melt copper are a localized and rare occurrence but it does demonstrate just how powerful these reactions can be in some cells.

For some chemistries, like that used in “LiPo” cells (LCO chemistry), the reaction temperatures are higher than for the standard li-ion round cells we typically use and a lot higher than LiFePO4-chemistry cells. This higher temperature is what ignites the flammable electrolyte (liquid inside the cell) and makes thermal runaway in LiPo cells potentially more dangerous as those flames can set other things on fire. LiFePO4 cells almost never catch on fire, usually just lots of smoke.

Cell Ratings
Most cells have three temperature range ratings:
  • Storage Temperature
  • Discharging Temperature
  • Charging Temperature
The Storage Temperature rating covers both the high and low end. For example, the Molicel P42A datasheet says to stay below 35°C but that it’s better to stay below 23°C for long term storage. There’s no explicit storage low temperature limit listed so we can just use the -40°C discharge limit for storage. Other cells might list the lowest and highest temperatures in one set of ratings.

The Discharging Temperature rating typically covers the ambient temperature the cell will be used in but might refer to the cell’s surface temperature. You need to carefully read the entire datasheet to know for sure. There could be one range for ambient temperature (for the P42A it is -40°C to 60°C) and then a surface temperature limit mentioned somewhere else (75°C for the P42A).

The Charging Temperature rating is often just one ambient temperature range (0°C to 45°C for the P42A), which the cell is assumed to be within at the start (like all the ratings).

But it can also be divided up. One range of temperatures at which you can fast charge the cell (often around room temperature) and other range you can only charge slowly at. For example, for the Molicel P42A you could use the Fast charge rate if at 0°C to 45°C but only at the slower Standard rate if at 45°C to 60°C. No charging should be done at above 60°C for the Molicel P42A and the limit could be a lot lower for some cells.

It doesn’t have to be complicated though, just stay near room temperature. But if you are getting the cells hot or operating in a cold environment then check the datasheet for the cell’s ratings. This is particularly important for pack builders so they can rate their packs to avoid having them used or charged at too high or low temperatures.

There is a huge range of temperatures a cell can be at, most of which are very bad. But if we keep within that narrow range around room temperature we can get the best performance and longest life out of our cells without adding a lot of risk.

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Simple Question for the Dovpo Abyss Owners

Which Nautilus coils are the proper ones to fit the stand alone Abyss Nautilus bridge? It wasn't until now that I realized that no coils come in the package. I've done quite a bit of searching and nobody seems to specific which coils are the correct ones. I'm guessing it's these?

Aspire Nautilus BVC Replacement Coil - 5PK

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Avail Vapor Closes After FDA Steals $10M+ , Highway Robbery

Avail Vapor’s stores go up in smoke amid haze of FDA red tape - Richmond BizSense

"Avail Vapor, which peaked about a year ago with nearly 100 stores in a dozen states, recently completed its exit from the retail storefront market altogether by selling or shuttering all of its locations."

"Xu didn’t say how many, if any, employees Avail has. The company had 350 employees in April 2020."

"...Avail spent more than $10 million in its bid to get regulatory approval since 2016, when the FDA set forth new compliance standards for vaping products. But the FDA rejected Avail’s applications in September and the company sued the government agency in federal appeals court. The case is expected to be heard early next year."


"'It’s completely just a mess with FDA policy making and policy strategy. It just did not make any sense from day one,' Xu said. 'Everything is really in this gray area. It was totally different from what our mission was...'"

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Yihi T Class Reviewed by SessionDrummer

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YiHi SXmini T Class SX580J 200W Box Mod


Thanks out to @David_SXMini, and @SmokyBlue for allowing me to get my hands on this beast, for review. As always, you'll get nothing but the straight skinny.


Yihi has become well known for producing some very high end equipment, and along with that, a strong following in the Temp Control crowd. Having just reviewed the SXMini SX Nano, I knew that this one, was going to have QUITE a bit more features, and WOW, was I right. Being a reluctant TC vaper, I'll cover the basics that the T Class has to offer, without going into an insane amount of detail.

**The Basics:**
  • Powered by YiHi SX580J
  • TFT ips Screen
  • Backlight colors changeable
  • Spinner on top & Joystick spinner for relaxing and fun
  • New wallpaper with animation
  • New clock interface
  • Mechanical design
  • Solid in hand
  • 78pcs components ( T Class is made by assembling 78 individual parts/components. This sets the T class above any other Mods in the Market )
  • Bluetooth App Control
  • 2X18650 Maximum Output Wattage of 200W
**Detailed Specs:**

  • Dimensions - 98mm by 49mm by 33.5mm
  • Dual High-Amp 18650 Battery - Not Included
  • Advanced YiHi SX580J Processor
  • BlueTooth App Control Technology
  • Wattage Output Range: 5-200W
  • Joule Output Range: 10-120J
  • Voltage Output Range: 1-9.5V
  • Temperature Control Range: 212-572F
  • Mininum Atomizer Resistance: 0.05ohm
  • Comprehensive Temperature Control Suite
  • TCR Adjustments
  • Taste Mode - Powerful+, Powerful, Standard, Soft, Eco and SXi-Q
  • SXi-Q Intelligent Taste Curve - 5 Memory Modes
  • High-Quality Zinc Alloy & Stainless Steel Construction
  • Joystick Adjustment Controller - Joystick Spinner
  • Intuitive Spinner at 510 Section
  • Hinged Battery Door Cover
  • Full-Color TFT IPS Display
  • Reverse Polarity Protection
  • Output Short Protection
  • Low Resistance Protection
  • Low Battery Voltage Warning
  • Overheat Protection
  • Over-Charge Protection
  • Buck-Boost Technology
  • Firmware Upgradeable
  • MicroUSB Port - 2A Maximum Charge
  • Stainless Steel 510 Connection
  • Available in Black Shadow, Shadow Golden, Captain, Captain Golden, X-Man
**What's included:**

  • YiHi SXmini T Class Box Mod
  • MicroUSB Cable
  • Instructional Manual


Talk about some Specs !!!!! Again, we'll be doing a general overview review of the T Class, not deep diving into ALL of the technical specifics, for time and length.



Everything starts with the box ...


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After removing the protective plastic wrap ..


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Behold the Behemoth ...


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Probably the best battery lid I have ever used ..


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Dual 18650's only, clearly marked polarities, and spring loaded upper posts ..


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At first I wasn't sure about the backlighting, but then I found the green, and had second thoughts ..


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Behold, you can turn them off if you prefer, and yes, the spinner around the top plate spins !!


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On the top you have a nice spring loaded gold 510 connect, with a generous 30mm allowance on the top plate ..


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IMHO, two of the show stoppers were the HD display, and joystick for navigation ..


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The amount of display options, and wallpapers could satisfy ANY user ..


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Brunhilde SbS Mod or Aspire Mixx

Find myself in need of "just One More" sBs Mod BUT live in the "Sticks of West Kaintucky" where not even the Pony Express or Outlaw Bootleggers (or Cartel Mules prob.) are allowed or willing to transport ANYTHING remotely construed as Vape-related.... :grr: Prohibition all over again and me now timid and tame in my slightly over Middle-Ages to moonlight as a Bootlegger meself as back in the day when this and many other KY Counties were "Dry":(

Sad & Deplorable... Isn't it ;)

Recently got an Ol'-School OG KayFun Lite which now sits permanently atop the Procyon and has displaced the Vapefly Brunhilde MTL... Dig the Brun MTL so,,,, Gotta procure it a new & proper Powerplant.

So, am willing to pay UP TO orig. retail plus shipping for the right:

1st Choice: Vapefly Brunhilde in Black, Silver, Blue, or Grey.
2nd Choice: Aspire Mixx in QuickSilver, Blue/Sapphire, Toffee, Smoke Frosted, or Yellow Frosted.
** Possibly a Hi-End SbS **: TEK Div, DamnMod, SunBox/Nega, etc...

If you have one of the above in one of the listed colors in Great pre-Owned condition, AND are wanting or willing to part with it,,,, please let me know and what ya gotta have outa it & we will go from there.

Thanks much :thumb:

P.s. Hated to "orphan" the Brun MTL but lovin the "Nostalgia" of the OG KFL & Procyon

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* Notice the poor orphaned Waif in bottom Right all by its lonesome.... :unsure:

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Hi (relatively) new and my Aegis X drops in Wattage quickly

Hi,
I got an old but reliable Eleaf iKonn 220
and an GeekVape Aegis X and I'm using the same tank (GeekVape Zeus) on both with the 0.2 Ohm Coils.
I am also using high quality Sony VTC5A Cells.
Thing is that on my Eleaf the Wattage (60-65W) stays the same but when I put the batteries and the tank on the Aegis the wattage drops to like 30-35W. The Cells have 2/5 lines of charge each but is that really allready not enough to provide 60W of power? But why is the Eleaf not dropping in Power when I take a puff?

Thank you.

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What do cell ratings actually tell us? Part 6A: Temperature

The most important thing to remember is that heat is a li-ion cell’s worst enemy. It ages the cell faster and if the cell gets hot enough it can start a series of chemical reactions that can eventually cause the cell to vent with flames or even burst (“thermal runaway”).

Low temperatures can be a problem too as they significantly affect the performance of a cell. The colder it is the slower the chemical reactions are and this creates more voltage sag. A cell that runs at a lower voltage delivers less power and will reach the low voltage cutoff point faster.

Let’s look at the full range of temperatures for a cell and what happens at different points:

-40°C to -20°C / -40°F to -4°F
This is typically the lowest temperature you can store or operate a lithium-ion cell at. Some cells can be stored to -40°C but only used down to -20°C but others can be both used and stored down to -40°C. If you are operating in a very cold area then check the datasheet as some cells and li-ion chemistries are better than others for low temperature use.

This refers to the cell’s temperature, not the air temperature. If you use a cell in -40°C weather but the cell was in your pocket until it was used then that cell is not cold.

The performance will be terrible if the cell is actually cold. The chemical reactions are slower and you will get a lot more voltage sag. Use the cell at a reduced power level for a while until you are sure it has warmed up to near room temperature. Then you can use it normally.

Never charge a cell that is this cold! The lithium ions cannot move around properly and will bunch up and this forces them to start plating lithium metal onto internal parts of the cell. If this continues for long enough the cell can short circuit internally. This might just slowly discharge the cell down to zero volts or it could cause the cell to catch fire and burst. Since we can’t know what will happen to any particular cell it’s just best to never charge a cell when it’s below room temperature.

-20°C to 0°C / -4°F to 32°F
Performance will still be terrible but most cells can be stored and operated at these temperatures. It’s still too cold for charging any li-ion cell.

0°C / 32°F
Stay above this temperature for any li-ion cell that is being charged.

0°C to 25°C / 32°F to 77°F
As the temperature rises up through this range the performance of a cell will get better and better. You can charge at any temperature in this range.

If you are storing cells for a long period this is a good temperature range to stay within. Do not freeze them and keep them at room temperature or a little lower. I haven’t seen any good data on whether keeping them in a refrigerator can actually make a noticeable difference but if you completely seal the cells (to prevent condensation when you take them out) then it probably won’t hurt.

25°C / 77°F
This is the temperature used for setting many of the cell ratings and is where most cells will perform well with just the normal amount of aging occurring for each cycle you put the cells through.

It is a good temperature for storing, charging, and using cells.

25°C to 45°C / 77°F to 113°F
As the temperature rises up through this range the performance of many cells will actually become a little better. This is because the internal resistance goes down as the cell gets hotter, resulting in less voltage sag.

But the cell ages faster and faster as it gets hotter so there is a tradeoff for this slight performance improvement. This also includes when you are storing cells. Cells are best stored at room temperature or a little below.

45°C / 113°F
This is the highest temperature I recommend letting a cell regularly reach if decent cycle life is important to you. At above (roughly) this temperature the aging starts speeding up. Most people would probably call this “very warm” for a cell firmly grasped in their hand.

45°C to 60°C / 113°F to 140°F
For some cells there will continue to be tiny performance improvements as the cell gets hotter and hotter. But it is aging faster and faster and I do not recommend this for any cells you want to last for a while. Do not charge a cell that is this hot. Let it come to room temperature first.

60°C / 140°F
This is the hottest I recommend ever letting a cell reach. It is about the point where you can no longer hold a cell in your hand. Never use or charge a cell that is this hot!

Continued in Part 6B to be posted soon.

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SXMini SX Nano Reviewed by SessionDrummer

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YiHi SX NANO S Pod System

First things FIRST. A while back, @SmokyBlue, and @David_SXmini conspired to get my hands on (at the time) the new SXmini SX Nano. SB raved about it's auto-pump (auto-squonk), and I wasn't sure what to think of it. Having shifted some of the hoard around, the box went MISSING, ... until NOW. Thanks again out to Smoky, and David for the opportunity. Although nothing was specified, let's just say, ALL equipment was provided for review and analysis.

David went ALL out on shipping this equipment, and sent two SX Nanos, and boxes of Disks, and coils, JUST in case I blew something up (and I tried !!!!).

**Description:**

*Powered by a 900mAh built-in battery and the YIHI ESS (Electronic Spray Sqonk) Driver Technology, the SXmini SX Nano supports the auto bottom-feeding (auto squonking) system and is easily controlled by the YiHi SX681J chipset.*

**Specifications:**
  • Powered by the YiHi SX681J
  • ESS Driver (Electronic Spray System)
  • Battery capacity: 900mAh
  • Reservoir capacity: 2ML
  • Reservoir material: PETG
  • Max Charge: 5V/1A
  • ~60 min to full charge
  • Quiescent Current <3 uA
  • ADA mode supported coils: SX ADA v2 0.6Ω
  • Device size: 87.4*39*17.9mm
Features:
  • Automatic fast and precise E Liquid injection technology.
  • Dry hit protection.
  • Auto or manual E Liquid draw.
  • E liquid and element separation to stop juice getting warm.
  • Leak proof reservoir.
  • Auto boost feed for longer hits.
  • Fresh coil priming timer.
  • 3 Taste pre-sets.


A fairly non-descript box greeted me ..

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But the back started to reveal things ..

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Opening up the box, revealed a well thought out presentation. Pump Speed ??

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Some of the extras had me concerned, AND interested at the same time !!

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Stunning piece, and the silver accents pushed it over the edge ..

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After removing the cap, checked to see what was what. Very well machined and put together ..

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Moving down to the bottom, the tank (reservoir) was smoothly integrated, along with USB-C charging ..

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Moving back up to the Atomizer, which appeared to share a heatsink design ..

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The business end really showcased the attention to detail on this piece ..

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A black screw on tip was installed, with an extra SS version provided ..

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Removing the cap, things started to get interesting with a round ceramic base with the coil visible ..

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The inside of the cap was heavily domed, which is exactly what flavor craves ..

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Dual slotted airflow on each side, and notice the keyed section of the cap ..

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The base of the atomizer was very well designed, with dual o-rings. The first time I assembled it, I didn't pay attention to the keyed slot, and managed to PING one of the o-rings. Good thing they included spares ..

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Removing the coil disk you can start to see how power is making it to the coil. Again, very well designed ..

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The tank, errrrr reservoir was very snug, but easy to slide off ..

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And it had a long tube for getting every last bit out ..

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The reservoir had a snug cap that could be removed for cleaning, and two holes (the big one is for filling) ..

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FREEMAX MAXUS MAX 168W KIT REVIEWED BY BIGBOB2322

Hello once again folks and welcome back for today's review of a dual 18650 kit from Freemax called the Maxus Max Kit. The output wattage range is 5-168 watts with 0.7-8.4 voltage output as well. The Maxus Max is a Pod Mod having no 510 connection and has a large 5ml Pod with Massive sized coils for it. This is a very compact dual 18650 mod that might be the smallest dual 18650 yet. There are 6 power modes including 3 TCR settings that lead me to believe more coils will be introduced soon and hopefully a RBA Pod as well. There's a lot to go over folks so lets start with some information on the Maxus Max 168W Kit prior to my review.

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COLOR CHOICES


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INCLUDED IN THE BOX


* 1pc FreeMax Maxus MAX 168W Mod

* 1pc FreeMax Maxus DTL Pod 5ml (Pre-installed MX2 Mesh Coil 0.2ohm)

* 1pc MX1 Mesh Coil 0.15ohm

* 1pc USB Charger

* 1pc Warning Card

* 1pc Warranty Card

* 1pc User Manual

* 1pc Desiccant



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SPECIFICATIONS


* Size: 43*30.9*128.5mm

* Pod Capacity: 5ml

* Coil Resistance: MX1 0.15ohm/ MX2 0.2ohm/ MX3 0.15ohm/ MX1 SS316L 0.12ohm

* Output Mode: Power/ VPC/ Bypass/ TC-SS316/ TC-NI/ TC-TI/ TCR

* Battery: External 18650*2

* Output Voltage: 0.7-8.4V

* Output Wattage: 5-168W



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MX PLATFORM


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WORLD'S FIRST DOUBLE AND TRIPLE MESH COIL POD MOD


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MX MESH COIL LINEUP


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SIDE FILL 5ML POD


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DUAL AIRFLOW SLOTS


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POD VERSION OF THE MESH PRO TANK


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COMPACT SIZED DUAL 18650 MOD


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LARGE SIDE FIREBAR


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3 BACKROUND COLOR CHOICES


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MULTIPLE POWER OUTPUTS


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UNBOXING AND FIRST IMPRESSIONS


Packaging for the Maxus Max Kits is done very nice, after opening the box top you are greeted with the mod in it's foam cutout with a ribbon laid underneath for easy removal, the Pod, 2nd coil, type-c charge cord, user manual, warranty card and warning card are under the mod.

Picking the device up I noticed it's weight of 200 grams, not a lightweight for sure, all corners and edges are rounded off for a very comfortable feeling in the hand. The 2 Kits I received have a flat matt paint finish to them which means no fingerprint magnet. :thumbs:

Both colors look very nice, along 1 side of the device is the firebar done in a silver color with the other side having nothing, I think another non-functioning silver bar should have been placed on the bare side to even out the look of the device. I was very happy to see a firebar on the Maxus Max because all that is needed to fire it is a squeeze when held in the hand.


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Batteries are inserted from the bottom of the device, the battery door feels very secure when the batteries are installed and in the time of testing the devices I have not had a accidental opening of it on either one. There are 3 horizontal tabs that assist you when opening or closing the battery door, 6 ventilation holes are on the door as well.


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Correct battery polarity symbols are very clearly marked on the battery door itself with no polarity markings or symbols inside the battery tubes, door polarity markings are sufficient.


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Although it serves no function other than aesthetics the raised Maxus logo on the back of the device looks very nice. I think Freemax did a great job designing the Maxus Max.


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The Maxus Max ships out with the MX-2 DUAL MESH 0.2Ω coil pre-installed in the 5ml pod, the much smaller in diameter MX-1 SINGLE MESH 0.15Ω coil will give you more juice capacity in the pod because of it's smaller diameter.

Both coils are very large but the MX-2 being a dual coil really increases the diameter of the coil therefor decreasing the liquid capacity of the pod a bit when installed. As you can see in the pictures below the MX-2 is almost as big as the pod.


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The Maxus DL Pod uses a side fill located toward the bottom of the pod and like most pods do it has a rubber gasket that covers the fill port, there is no marking on the rubber gasket telling you which side to pull up for opening (pull up on the right side). Once opened for filling the rubber gasket can be rotated out of the way when filling. The fill port is very large for just about any bottle tip, a glass dripper tip is iffy. The drip tip is proprietary but very comfortable to use. If you like a lot of airflow the Maxus DL Pod will keep you smiling as it's very airy wide open but can be closed down for a great RDL vape as well, airflow is smooth across the board on all settings. I will say that the magnets used on this pod are by far the strongest I've come across on any device with a magnetic pod connection.

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The display screen is perfect for anyone with vision problems as the wattage, voltage and ohms are displayed very large on the screen, the green unlocked symbol and red locked symbol as well as the dual battery bars are located at the top, and although not as large as the wattage are easy to read, the power mode your in is centered.

There are 4 background colors that you can customize to your liking as well.


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MENU SYSTEM


Freemax has made their menu system very easy and simple to navigate for users.

* On/Off - 5 Quick Presses Of The Firebar

* Adjustment Buttons Lock But Still Vape - Press And Hold + And - Buttons Simultaneously

* To Enter The Menu System - 3 Quick Presses Of The Firebar , Once Inside The Menu Use The Adjustment Buttons To Move To Settings Of (Mode), (Set), (Info) And (Exit)

* Once In Your Desired Setting Simply Press The Firebar To Enter It And Adjustment Buttons To Move Through It

* Color Change - Press And Hold The Firebar And Minus Button Simultaneously

* Lock The Entire Device - Go Into The Menu To Set, Scroll To Comb Keys And Open It, Press And Hold The Firebar- Up-Down Buttons Simultaneously



PROS

* Attractive

* Bright And Vivid Display Screen

* Easy To Read Fonts

* Quality Solid Build

* Firebar

* 6 Power Modes

* 4 Display Screen Color Choices

* Rounded Corners And Edges

* Great Hand Fit

* Great Flavor

* 5ML Pod

* Smooth Airflow

* Easy Menu To Navigate

* Compact Size

* Extremely Strong Pod Magnets


CONS

* No 510 Connection

* Weighty



USING THE MAXUS MAX KIT


As I mentioned earlier this device is very weighty once batteries are installed and the pod is filled the total weight is 294 grams which for me makes it a desk Pod Mod during summer but in winter it easily becomes a Pod Mod to be carried in a coat pocket.

Airflow wide open is so massive that you are able to easily breathe through the airflow slots, you air lovers are really going to like it, it's way too airy for me wide open but closed down to halfway or even a bit more it becomes a great RDL airflow that is very smooth at any setting I put it.

This is a Freemax product so I knew flavor should be great and it is, a well flavored saturated vape with more than enough clouds to make anyone happy. When I used the dual MX-2 mesh coil I was fine at a wattage of 75 but found 82 watts to be my sweet spot.

Using the MX-1 mesh was good as well but in my opinion the dual is more suited to my style of vaping, 68 watts proved to be my sweet spot on this coil.

As far as the other power modes go the Bypass and VPC worked very well as they should but I'm a straight wattage vaper and don't use those modes ever. I don't do TC either but there is a coil with 316SS for those that do vape in TC but sold separately. With this being a Pod Mod and not having a 510 connection I wonder why Freemax includes NI,TI and 3 TCR modes in the power modes, maybe they plan on coming out with other coils that have those metals in them.

Anyone that has used a Pod Mod knows that over time condensation can and does build up on the connection point of the Pod and metal ring on the device and sometimes it is a substantial amount but the Maxus Max has very tiny condensation after about 7 or 8 tanks of juice vaped. A good rule of thumb would be wipe it dry every 3 tankful's.

I an very pleased with the performance of the Maxus Max Kit in every way, I don't even mind the weight because it's more conformation to the solid build quality that Freemax put into this mod.


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Although the Pod is fine and I've had no issues with it I really wish this had a 510 connection instead, the TC users would have been happy to see it also. All in all I consider the Maxus Max Kit to be a solid winner and I recommend it 100%. I would like to thank Tina and Freemax for providing these Kits for the purpose of this review.

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Bench Test Results: EVE 25P – 30A 2500mAh 18650…average performer but less expensive

These tests below only note my personal ESTIMATED ratings for the batteries I tested at the time I tested them. Any battery that is not a genuine Samsung, Sony, Murata, LG, Panasonic, Molicel, or Sanyo can change at any time! This is one of the hazards of using “rewrapped” or batteries from other manufacturers so carefully research any battery you are considering using before purchasing.

Misusing or mishandling lithium-ion batteries can pose a SERIOUS RISK of property damage, personal injury, or even death. They are not supposed to be used outside of a fully protected battery pack and you use them at your own risk. Never exceed the battery’s true continuous current rating and keep the plastic wrap and top insulating ring in perfect condition.

Testing batteries at their limits is dangerous and should never be attempted by anyone who has not thoroughly studied the dangers involved, understands the risks, has the proper equipment, and takes all appropriate safety precautions.

If the battery has only one current rating number, or if it only says "max", then I have to assume the battery is rated at that current level for any type of discharge, including continuous.

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Test Results
EVE is one of the large, established cell manufacturers in China (EVE). This is an average performing cell. The EVE 25P doesn’t perform quite as well in testing as the Samsung 25R or Hohm Work V2 but you probably wouldn’t notice much of a difference in actual use. The Molicel P26A or the Murata VTC5A or VTC5D perform better than the EVE 25P.

This cell’s “Max. Continuous Discharge” rating of 30A is temperature-limited. The datasheet says you can draw 30A from this cell but must stop before it reaches 80°C (damn hot). I recommend staying under 20A to improve performance (reduce the voltage sag), extend cell life, and reduce risk.

While this is not a high performance cell the EVE 25P should be available at a lower price and could be a good choice for use where cost is a priority over max performance.

The cycle life rating in the datasheet is decent but I have not tested it.

The two cells I tested delivered 2466mAh and 2476mAh. This is below their 2500mAh nominal capacity rating. I cannot have the lowest capacity cells in the batch so I am rating them at 2400mAh. The consistency is fantastic for cells I’ve seen from the larger China cell manufacturers.

Two cells were purchased for testing by me.


Continuous Current Discharge Graphs
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Ratings and Performance Specs Graphs
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Lost Vape Thelema Solo 100W Kit Review By Frenkyou

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Lost Vape Thelema Solo 100W completes the triptych of Mod Thelema therefore joins the 2 previous versions; Thelema 200W & Thelema Pod Kit. Thelema Solo 100W is powered by a single 21700/18650 battery (not included).
Enjoy the reading.

► Lost Vape Thelema Solo 100W Kit; Packaging:
The cardboard box with white / black coloring, shows on the front; the image of the kit, its name, the Lost Vape logo and brand, the indication on the maximum power of the mod (100W), an icon containing the caption "Quest 2.0" indicating the name of the chipset used on this version , and a series of icons that represent the main characteristics of the product.

On the back are shown; the contents of the package, the warnings, the place of manufacture (China), a label containing a barcode, the color indication of this sample (Black Carbon Fiber) and the authenticity check of the Lost Vape product.

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On the side profile of the box we can read the Lost Vape motto "The Modern Demarcation", on the other side we see the icons of the main social networks where Lost Vape promotes its business.

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► Lost Vape Thelema Solo 100W Kit; Packing List:
• 1 * Mod Lost Vape Thelema Solo 100W
• 1 * Type-C cable
• 1 * 18650 Battery Adapter
1 * Warranty Card
• 1 * User Manual

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► Lost Vape Thelema Solo 100W Kit; Technical data:
• Body material: zinc alloy
• Design: C-frame
• Size: 39 * 28.5 * 97.5mm
• Weight: 150g
• Chipset: Quest 2.0
• Batteries: 21700/18650 (not included)
• Power range: 5-100W
• Mode: VW / VV / TC / VPC / Bypass
• Power curves: Soft / Normal / Strong
• 3 user records
• Temperature range: 200 ° F-600 ° F (100 ° C-315 ° C)
• Supported Coil Materials: Nickel / Titanium / SS316 / SS904 / Kanthal
• Supported resistance range: 0.15-5.0Ω
• Charging method: type C
• Input current: 1A-35A
• Battery voltage: 3.0-4.2V
• Input voltage: 5V
• Output voltage: 0.7-8.0V
• Screen Pixel: 0.96 "

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► Lost Vape Thelema Solo 100W Kit; Available colours:
• Black Classic Black
• SS Mineral Green
• Gunmetal Ocher Brown
• Black Carbon Fiber
• SS Carbon Fiber
• Gunmetal Carbon Fiber
• Sierra Blue Carbon Fiber
• Matt Red Carbon Fiber

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► Lost Vape Thelema Solo 100W Kit; First impressions:
With its "C" frame design and "Thelema" style this Mod 18650/21700 differs a lot from Grus V2 and Cyborg (they also use 18650/21700 cells), so Lost Vape offers an additional choice to its users. Compared to Grus & Cyborg the Thelema is more manageable and portable, but maintains the qualities of sturdiness that distinguish the majority of Lost Vape products, we also find elegant decorations and a wide choice of color combinations. Thelema Solo 100W is combined in a kit with the excellent UB Pro-Tank which also equips the Mod Cyborg, Grus V1 / V2, Thelema 200W and Ursa Multi Kit.

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► Lost Vape Thelema Solo 100W Kit; Thelema family:
Three different types of power supply for 3 different Thelema; two replaceable 18650 batteries (Thelema 200W), one replaceable 18650/21700 (Thelema 100W) and fixed internal battery for the smallest Mod-Pod (Thelema 80W).

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► Lost Vape Thelema Solo 100W Kit; Side view:
The frame shows laterally the union between the rear part (cover battery) and the "C-frame" which is entirely made of zinc alloy. The sample I received is Black Carbon Fiber color, the carbon fiber decorations extend both on the battery cover and on the frame; on the frame we find a plate with the writing "Thelema Solo" on one side and on the other side we find "Lost Vape".

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Location: USA-Pennsylvania
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JUICEHEAD 3mg lot

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pineapple grapefruit 3mg. Date: 5/19/21
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almost full:
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1/3 used:
Blueberry Lemon 3mg. 04/07/21

selling these because I am going to a pod system that won’t handle 70/30 juice

never had any issues with this juice. Shelf life is 1+ years

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What do cell ratings actually tell us? Part 5B: Discharge Current

This is part two of a two-part post.

Manufacturer’s Current Ratings
These are for li-ion round cells still in their original manufacturer’s wrap. Not just Samsung, Sony, Murata, LG, Sanyo, Panasonic, and Molicel but the large China manufacturers like BAK, EVE, CATL, Lishen, and others too.

There is usually just one rating, a true continuous current rating that gives you acceptable performance and cycle life. For the ultra-high capacity cells (>3000mAh 18650 or >4200mAh 21700) you can definitely get better performance and less voltage sag though by not going over about 50%-75% of the rating.

But there are some cells that are rated for the applications they were designed for, hard non-continuous use. Molicels are rated this way. Their current ratings cannot be used as true continuous current ratings to compare against other cells. This is not a false rating! It is the type of rating that best helps Moli’s customers judge whether the cell might be a good choice.

There’s no way for us to know this though so we are forced to check for third-party test results that can help us judge a manufacturer’s ratings. None of the round cells we use were made for individual use by end customers so this is the situation we must deal with. The datasheets and the ratings are only for the huge commercial customers for these cells.

Murata’s VTC cells (made by Sony up until 2017) also have non-continuous ratings, allowing use up to a certain temperature. But they also have a true continuous current rating you can use to compare the cells to others.

For example…
The VTC6 is rated at 15A continuous and 30A non-continuous by Murata. But if you want to compare the VTC6 to any other cell, perhaps the Samsung 30Q, then you would have to use the continuous 15A rating. You cannot say that the VTC6 has a 30A rating and blows away the 15A-rated Samsung 30Q. They are both 15A cells and perform very close to each other (30Q slightly better in my testing).

The VTC6 has huge voltage sag at 30A anyway and these non-continuous ratings are best ignored if performance is your priority.

Rewrapped Cell Current Ratings
In my opinion, “rewrapped” cells are those that have had their original factory wraps removed (or were purchased without wraps) and have been rewrapped by a company that will resell them. This is how companies like Efest, Imren, MXJO, Vapcell, and dozens of others started out.

This was originally done with cells from Samsung, Sony, Murata, LG, Sanyo, Panasonic, and Molicel but is now also being done with cells from the large China manufacturers like BAK, EVE, CATL, Lishen, and others.

The problem is that an unscrupulous company can exaggerate the manufacturer’s rating or even create their own useless “max” or “pulse” rating. The situation has gotten a lot better lately though in the US and EU, with the rewrapping companies giving their cell more accurate ratings. Some brands like Epoch, Fogstar, and others have always had accurate ratings. In Asia though the ratings on many of the rewrapped cells are ridiculously exaggerated.

There’s no way to know if the ratings on the wrap are accurate or not unless you know what cell they have rewrapped (for cells from the large manufacturers) or have seen test results.

Any “max” or “pulse” ratings can be ignored though in my opinion. I know that these are the ratings we love to see. They are ones that are listed by most vendors and they are high. But they are, at best, just the cell manufacturer’s non-continuous rating. If not then we have no idea what criteria the rewrapper used to set the rating. At worst they are merely numbers chosen during a marketing lunch meeting.

I have had multiple rewrapping companies tell me they just make up these “max” or “pulse” numbers to please the distributors who will not buy cells unless they have a big number on them. These numbers are useless marketing bullsh*t.

Some companies rewrap very good cells so don’t think that they are all to be avoided. Vapcell has gotten a couple batches of some great cells from the big manufacturers over the last couple of years and rewrap other good cells. Just stick with the continuous current rating.

As mentioned earlier, there are also great rewrapped cells from Fogstar, Epoch, and other companies.

As the cells from the big manufacturers are getting harder and harder to find (no one buys direct from the manufacturer) the rewrapped cells from the big manufacturers are becoming a smaller and smaller part of what these rewrapping companies can offer.

Many of their cells are now coming from the smaller China factories and some are pretty good. For example, the Yong De Li New Energy Corp.’s 1000mAh 18350 that at least three companies have rewrapped.

Some of us would never consider operating even near the continuous current rating of a cell. Others would have no problem going way, way over that rating as long as the cell didn’t get hot. Neither of those is the wrong or right approach, they’re just different. They fit the way those people want to use their cells, based on their priorities, preferences, and risk-taking comfort levels.

I don’t think we’ll ever stop debating what a current rating means, not while we have so many different priorities and such a wide range of risk taking by cell users. But if we at least know what the manufacturers mean when they give a cell a certain rating that can help us to choose how hard we will use a cell.

Things to remember about current ratings:
  • Only use the true continuous current rating for comparing cells.
  • “Max” and “pulse” ratings are useless for comparing cells. Different companies use different standards for setting these ratings or just make them up.
  • The manufacturer’s non-continuous rating is limited by cell temperature and you must stop before the cell reaches this temp. Luckily it’s usually quite high, 70°C-80°C. There are a few cells that are only rated up to 60°C, easily reached in a sealed up battery pack, so check the datasheet for the cells you are using to be sure.
  • Cells lose performance and their internal resistance increases over time. This can cause more heat during use and we need to take this into account as our cells age. If your cells are getting warmer but you are not using them any harder then you’ll need to lower their current rating or replace them. There’s no data available to help you know when to do this. You’ll have to use your best judgement.
  • The ratings on any cell can be complete bullsh*t. This is rare for cells sold in the US and EU but is very common for cells sold in Asia. If you see a cell with higher ratings than any other similar cell it is not a “miracle” cell using some kind of amazing technology no one else has. It is just a cell with an exaggerated or misrepresented rating.
  • You can use any cell at above its continuous current rating. But you lose performance, shorten its cycle life, and increase the risks. Especially as the cell ages. I recommend staying below the continuous current rating.
I will discuss C-Ratings in another post.

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SteamCrave Hadron Mini DNA100C Box Mod

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The original SteamCrave Hadron Mini DNA100C Box Mod is designed for sub-ohm / RDTA / RTA, RDA vaping, compatible with Steam Crave Supreme V3 RDTA, Atomamizer class MTL RTA, and Glaz Mini (atomizer not included), you will get the perfect result. Powered by 1 x 18650 / 20700 / 210700 battery (not included), it comes with a 18650 sleeve and two 21700 battery wraps for you to replace your battery. The Evolv DNA 100C chipset supports the most sufficient and stable output to capture the flavor, the max output can be up to 100W. Available for various modes to vape, including Replay mode,Accurate temperature control, and Watts boost. If you want an intellectual vaping manner, the Relay mode must be the perfect and accurate choice, it chases a stable power for flavor. The temperature control is your assistant when you vape, Hadron Mini Box Mod DNA100C can instantly come down the temperature once you fire your kit.
More info Hadron Mini DNA100C Box Mod
510 threading connection
Battery: 1 x 21700 / 20700 / 18650 (Not Included)
Input Voltage: 3.0V~4 2V
Output Voltage: 0.2V~9 0V
Power Range: 1~100W
Current Range: 0.5A~30A
Max Charging Current: 3A / 2A
Temperature Range: 200~600'F
Coil Resistance Supported: 0.10~3.00ohm
Coil Material supported: Nickel, Titanium, SS460, SS316, KA1, Ni80, Ni90
Screen Pixel: 0.9 inch (80 x 160 Pixel) full Color TFT
Body Material: Aluminum Alloy + Zinc Alloy
Steam Crave Hadron Mini box mod is a high-end and powerful device capable of providing various functions
Hadron Mini features single 18650 / 20700 / 21700 battery (not included) with max It is capable very well with any tanks max id 25mm, especially 100W output and is powered by DNA 100C, provided by Evolv firmware.
DNA 100C Chipset
Ready Mode:
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Briefly increase the power delivery at the start of firing to reach your desired vapor output faster
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By directly measure and limit the temperature of the heating coil the Hadron Mini DNA100C is able to prevent the coil becoming too hot and provide a much stable performance
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