Do we need more than 18xxx ?

[Winblows]

I assume, that most of us know a lot about the safety issues related with the batteries and mods that we are using.
We care for our health and the devices that we use.
Most of us uses an e-Go like or a 18xxx driven battery/mod.
This already involves some issues that we have to relate to.
I mean, do we really need the new and much more powerful batteries/devices, that in my opinion are close to be real bombs in our hands ?

 

[Spey]

I for one look forward to increased battery capacities and performance. Examples include 20700 & 21700 driven from other industries (Tesla motors, etc.). Small increases in external dimensions offering significant performance bennifits is a good thing in my mind.

Proper knowledge, care and use is the only thing that can minimise ignorant disaster.

How many folks worry about laptop battery explosions or from cel-phone (laptop batteries typically contain between 4 & 8 18650 batteries and have multi-protection-circut). Historically I would bet there have been more laptop battery melt-downs and/or more cel-phone melt-downs than those related to vaping.

I do not believe the vape industry needs "more than 18xxx" ..., but I am all for BETTER than current 18xxx.

 

[Rossum]

I guess it depends on what you mean with "we". Me, personally? Nope. I've been good-to-go with a single 18650 for more than 3 years now and I don't see that changing.

But for those who vape rather more agressively in terms of power and volume, I can sorta understand why they would want more milliwatt hours that a single 18xxx can provide.

 

[Coastal Cowboy]

I'm intrigued by the potential of mods that take the 20700's, but not to the point where I'm feeling a burning desire to own one. I'm fine here on the bleeding edge of technology and happy with my single 18650 devices.

 

[DaveP]

Replaceable batteries are great for those of us who like to carry an extra battery when we know we are going to be away from home. Some of those mods also have a USB port that is charge compatible for when you need it. It's always best to charge 18650s with an AC charger.

I'm happy with 18650s. I've recently purchased a couple of dual 18650 mods that last me from one morning until almost lunch the next day. With the right mod size doesn't increase that much unless you buy a triangular shaped dual 18650 mod or a triple 18650 mod.

20700 is what carmakers are moving to. 1/3 more power in a slightly larger footprint that's 2mm wider and 5mm longer.

 

[rob33]

The designers of the 20700 are thinking of the vaping community as customers. We just sorta fell in the lap of the 18650 they work or boards were designed so that they would work. With the newer battery who knows what could be, the 18650 could be the new ego battery a thing of the past.

 

[zoiDman]

... I mean, do we really need the new and much more powerful batteries/devices, that in my opinion are close to be real bombs in our hands ?

To Me, it kinda depends on what Type of Mod you are putting the Battery in?

For single/dual battery Regulated Mod, seems like a 20A/3000mAh 18650 is enough for Most People. But where I see a 20700 being a Plus would be in a Single Battery Mech.

A 20700 Mech would only be a Tad bigger than an 18650. But a 30A/3000mAh 20700 would allow a Greater Amp draw at the same mAh.

 

[retired1]

The designers of the 20700 are thinking of the vaping community as customers.

Doubtful. Much like Sony did with their legal letters stating their batteries were not to be sold for e-cigarette devices, I'd wager the legal departments for those making the 20700 batteries will do the same thing eventually. In today's litigious society, those manufacturers would never give the green light for their products to be used in e-cigarette devices.

 

[rob33]

Doubtful. Much like Sony did with their legal letters stating their batteries were not to be sold for e-cigarette devices, I'd wager the legal departments for those making the 20700 batteries will do the same thing eventually. In today's litigious society, those manufacturers would never give the green light for their products to be used in e-cigarette devices.

I've already seen the disclaimer of not intended for thiis and not. Still they want our business.

 

[retired1]

From a legal standpoint, no, they don't want our business. Selling for use in e-cig mods is a huge liability issue for these companies. Our contribution to their bottom line is negligible compared to their other sales.

 

[Winblows]

How can a battery manufacturer decide the application of the product?
When I buy a glass, it's not given that I have to use it for liquid or powder and I don't look for any green lights

 

[retired1]

How can a battery manufacturer decide the application of the product?

Very easily. They manufacture their batteries for a specific purpose/industry. The high output needed to power our mods is not one of those purposes. Considering a mishap has the potential for severe injuries, no battery manufacturer in their right mind would give the green light for using their products in e-cig mods.

 

[Mooch]

Very easily. They manufacture their batteries for a specific purpose/industry. The high output needed to power our mods is not one of those purposes. Considering a mishap has the potential for severe injuries, no battery manufacturer in their right mind would give the green light for using their products in e-cig mods.

I agree completely,
We are a tiny, tiny market with huge liability issues. No battery manufacturer wants to have anything to do with us if our legal system can touch them.