A SMPL Explosion.

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  1. Papillon61

    Papillon61 Ultra Member ECF Veteran

    Mar 22, 2015
    Sunshine Isle

    This could have been my face this morning - luckily it was my thigh! I'm still shaking. Also luckily I was wearing thick cotton slacks - don't know what would have happened if I had been wearing something synthetic because there was fire.


    This is the result of what I suppose you would call venting of and IMR supposedly perfectly good Efest battery which exploded inside my SMPL mech mod. This was a battery I had been happily using for the past 10 days or so on a mod that I received yesterday and which worked perfectly fine all day yesterday using the same battery or its twin since I got a pack of two.

    This is the state of my desk right after the explosion.

    I'm having trouble adding pictures but there are more.... I need to figure it out and I'll be back.
     
  2. Thrasher

    Thrasher ECF Guru Verified Member ECF Veteran

    Oct 28, 2012
    Madeira beach, Fla
    Whoa papi, I hope your OK.



    Need a good shot of the Atty 510 connector.
    My guess is the Atty shorted the battery.
     
  3. VictorViper

    VictorViper Super Member ECF Veteran

    Jun 22, 2013
    Vancouver
    Jesus, so glad you're ok. Have you any idea of what may have caused it?
     
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  4. tj99959

    tj99959 ECF Guru ECF Veteran

    Aug 13, 2011
    utah
    Yet another hybrid top cap explosion ....... imagine that!!!!!!

    I know this is a bad way to be, but I'm getting to the point that I don't even feel sorry for folks that have a problem when using hybrid top caps.
     
  5. Bad Ninja

    Bad Ninja Vaping Master ECF Veteran

    Jun 26, 2013
    Salton Sea, CA
    The atty shorted the battery. It's a SMPL so it has no center pin. The atty makes direct contact to the battery.

    I'd like to see pics of the atty.
     
  6. Papillon61

    Papillon61 Ultra Member ECF Veteran

    Mar 22, 2015
    Sunshine Isle
    I'm still having trouble adding pics to this album which apparently is the only way you can add pics to a post on this new interface. (Let me know if there is a more direct way please). Anyways this was this morning. It's my son's birthday today so I was getting ready to go and have lunch at his place. I was placing my most favourite Kanger Geni tank on this Smpl mod so as not to carry my larger battery. The tank didn't seem to be making contact so I tightened it down slightly further, not much mind you.. didn't have time to tighten too much anyway because the whole thing exploded, and there was some fire coming out of it before I threw it away from me. My whole room was covered in soot. There's a gash on my pretty high ceiling about 15 ft behind where I was sitting and also sooty marks on the wall about the door of the room some 20 feet away.

    Naturally the tank was totally ruined.. even the solid SS chimney is now crooked and even though the battery vented from the bottom, luckily! There is no trace of the fire buttom though the spring is still intact. Also luckily I was able the salvage my keyboard which initially I thought had been ruined as well.

    I do have more pictures but like I said I am having trouble uploading them>~

    Was was it my fault? the fault of the battery? the fault of the mod? What do I do, apart from trying to get over the shock. Please advise. Thank you.
     
  7. Vatic

    Vatic Senior Member Verified Member

    Mar 28, 2015
    Ohio
    Wow, So glad that you weren't hurt more severely! The mod obviously shorted. Can you tell us what atomizer was on it? If it was an atomizer that does not have an adjustable positive pin, I''ll bet that was the issue.
     
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  8. Vatic

    Vatic Senior Member Verified Member

    Mar 28, 2015
    Ohio
    by screwing the tank down further, you dead shorted the battery because the positive center pin and the outter threads of the tank made contact with the battery. Hybrid top cap mods should only be used with adjustable center pin tanks or atomizers.

    I made a video rant about this topic exactly several months ago.

     
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  9. dhood

    dhood Ultra Member Verified Member ECF Veteran

    Sep 30, 2014
    Georgia
    Glad you're ok. what was on top of the SMPL?
     
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  10. classwife

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    I am REALLY glad that you are ok !


    Wow !
     
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  11. Papillon61

    Papillon61 Ultra Member ECF Veteran

    Mar 22, 2015
    Sunshine Isle
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    Yes the atty was on top of the mod. Pic 1 is the state of the atty now. Pic 2 is the bottom of the mod. Pic 3 is the dent on the ceiling, you don't see it in the pic but there are also a few droplets of what seems to be liquid up there. Pic 4 is the soot marks on the wall 20 feet behind me. I really can't figure out the trajectory.. I know I felt a burn on my thigh, then saw fire coming out of the mod which I promptly threw away from me... luckily we have tiled floors. The fire button is untraceable.. probably melted. The spring I found on my desk though, still intact with not even any burn marks on it.
     
  12. dhood

    dhood Ultra Member Verified Member ECF Veteran

    Sep 30, 2014
    Georgia
    Kanger Genitank? Not a good idea. The pin doesn't protrude enough to work correctly. Glad you had quick reflexes.
     
  13. Thrasher

    Thrasher ECF Guru Verified Member ECF Veteran

    Oct 28, 2012
    Madeira beach, Fla
    At the bottom of this box should be a button that says upload a file. If not click more options and it will appear.
     
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  14. Magaro

    Magaro Super Member ECF Veteran

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    Mar 7, 2015
    Corning, NY, USA
    I love my SMPL, but I am going to go take another good, hard look at how much the center post protrudes on ALL my drippers.

    So glad the OP is OK.
     
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  15. tj99959

    tj99959 ECF Guru ECF Veteran

    Aug 13, 2011
    utah
    It was the fault of the mod design.
    Mods with no center pin (hybrid top caps) should only be used by those that are so well versed that they wouldn't even have to ask what the problem was.

    If the ground portion of the atties 510 connector touches the battery .... the mod explodes/battery vents.
     
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  17. retired1

    retired1 Administrator Admin Verified Member ECF Veteran

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    Apr 5, 2013
    Texas
    Very simple.. Use the "Upload a File" button.

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  18. Papillon61

    Papillon61 Ultra Member ECF Veteran

    Mar 22, 2015
    Sunshine Isle
    I appreciate all your help. I would also appreciate no snarky remarks. I am currently not in a state to take them. If you don't have constructive advice to give please say nothing at all. I really am in no mood for know-it-all remarks and running down someone who has just had a very scary accident.
     
  19. Thrasher

    Thrasher ECF Guru Verified Member ECF Veteran

    Oct 28, 2012
    Madeira beach, Fla
    I think direct connect mods are still the worst invention yet, never come with warnings, and no one tells you what to do.

    And I can't stand them being called hybrids, they have nothing in common with a real hybrid other then the pin touching the battery.

    At least your safe and that's all that counts
     
  20. Robino1

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    {{{{{{{{{{{{{ Papillon }}}}}}}}}}}}}}} OMG How utterly scary! I am so thankful that you are ok, relatively speaking. I bet you are shaking still. I am so sorry this happened to you.

    Retired, I hope, helped explain how to upload pictures.
     
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  21. Vatic

    Vatic Senior Member Verified Member

    Mar 28, 2015
    Ohio
    Just to let you know, I was in no way chastising you about this. Several months ago on another forum a similar incident happened and it was because a shop owner sold a similar setup to which you just had an unfortunate accident with and it prompted me to make that video. I'm glad your ok.
     
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