Beware of the Quit Smoking Purists

[sqirl1]

so my post did go through, and nobody could even respond to it. oh yeah, and where the HELL is Vocalek on this? I guess she doesn't come to this sub forum, but she's the one with all the links that could make these people realize how ignorant they're being.

 

[Iluvthearmy]

wow, reading that forum was infuriating. Even when presented with clear and very non-aggressively spoken points they just kept insulting the op. But I guess there's nothing worse than an ex-smoker, atleast that's what my smoker friends tell me when I won't let them smoke in my car anymore.

 

[Eli Huffman]

Wow.... That's just crazy!!!

 

[ShannonA]

so my post did go through, and nobody could even respond to it. oh yeah, and where the HELL is Vocalek on this? I guess she doesn't come to this sub forum, but she's the one with all the links that could make these people realize how ignorant they're being.

All that stuff can be readily found on the CASAA site if you need it. I'm done with those clowns. That one chick spouting off about people downing her way of quitting. They were the only ones downing anybody's quit method...pffft.

<------ Look they made Bailey angry

 

[Puma]

Bailey is criminally cute.

 

[rons29445]

Here are some links I have

Are E-Cigarettes the Holy Grail for Hopelessly Addicted Smokers? | | AlterNet

News Archive

FDA Loses Appeal, Can’t Regulate E-Cigarettes as Drug - Businessweek

 

[ShannonA]

Here are some links I have

Are E-Cigarettes the Holy Grail for Hopelessly Addicted Smokers? | | AlterNet

News Archive

FDA Loses Appeal, Can’t Regulate E-Cigarettes as Drug - Businessweek

Unfortunately I don't think all the links in the world would help here. I doubt they'd even click on them they don't WANT to be open minded.

 

[slumdog]

This is amazing to me..... am I wrong to assume that we are social creatures..... it IS instinctive for humans as a whole, to help one another....to further socity... to make "their,our" life easier...better......these people are less than human....I have talked to many people on the street, usually after watching me pull out my pv and take a few drags, they want to know what it is, so I tell them, most are like "that is sooo kewl, where do I get one" is what I hear most .....I have started to notice there are alot more smokers than I used to think there were...but the point being...this reaction that you received is typical of someone with very low self esteem......as is the whole "elitist" type personna....maybe their mom should have hugged them more, or not got so mad at them when they did wrong...whatever the reason their insecurity is not with us, or even ecigs for that matter....they are scared sheep.....scared of slaughter of their way of life....personal reality can become severely skewed when you have no friends to bring you back to social reallity......

 

[ShannonA]

This is amazing to me..... am I wrong to assume that we are social creatures..... it IS instinctive for humans as a whole, to help one another....to further socity... to make "their,our" life easier...better......these people are less than human....I have talked to many people on the street, usually after watching me pull out my pv and take a few drags, they want to know what it is, so I tell them, most are like "that is sooo kewl, where do I get one" is what I hear most .....I have started to notice there are alot more smokers than I used to think there were...but the point being...this reaction that you received is typical of someone with very low self esteem......as is the whole "elitist" type personna....maybe their mom should have hugged them more, or not got so mad at them when they did wrong...whatever the reason their insecurity is not with us, or even ecigs for that matter....they are scared sheep.....scared of slaughter of their way of life....personal reality can become severely skewed when you have no friends to bring you back to social reallity......

They're peeved off because they still want nicotine and have elevated themselves to some sort of misguided martyrs. If it makes them THAT unhappy I don't feel it's worth it...speaking of... I don't know about you guys but since I've flushed most of the toxins out of my body my overall mood has improved.

 

[slumdog]

+1 Shannon, I used to get that mad over some of my convictions....that went away with the toxins of the chemicals placed into cigarettes to "Keep em' commin' back" I would think it would be outta their system unless they are Mr. sneak-a-toke behind closed doors...I wouldn't doubt that.....

 

[sqirl1]

what scares me is that the public thinks the same way about nicotine, I remember telling a nonsmoker about E-cigs when they first started getting big and she was like "ewwwwww you don't want nicotine getting in your lungs, either! nicotine is a poison that does nothing but slowly kill you!" it sickens me what mass propaganda is driving our society today. Anti-smoking is just the beginning. next thing you know it insurance companies will be able to test your eating habbits and raise your rates based on your diet, and employers will test your caloric intake as a part of their process of deciding whether on not to hire you. this is just one step to government control over the people's lifestyles. we're not far from 1984

 

[Phanie]

But I guess there's nothing worse than an ex-smoker, atleast that's what my smoker friends tell me when I won't let them smoke in my car anymore.

Yikes. Unless they're ribbing you, that's kind of petty. I suppose you can tell them they can smoke in your car if you can give them a dutch oven.

 

[slumdog]

but for the first few months I was here....please do not go back and check some of my old posts, they are quite embarasing......I flamed a few people ....for what I thought I knew...some really cool people ASKED me to do some research...said they didn't want me to embarrass myself further.....I did realize I didn't know half of what I thought I knew.....and realizing that, because my thoughts could be read by anyone, and most likely used by someone for educating their self about one thing or another, then I had a moral obligation to make that thought as close to the truth as I could get it...with some personal input that was clearly labeled as personal and facts that could be proven...this computer I am typing on has a lot of power..power to reach far beyond my front door.....I believe with great power comes great responsibility.....

 

[davelog]

If my friends pulled that on me, they'd be walking.

 

[LibertariaNate]

what scares me is that the public thinks the same way about nicotine, I remember telling a nonsmoker about E-cigs when they first started getting big and she was like "ewwwwww you don't want nicotine getting in your lungs, either! nicotine is a poison that does nothing but slowly kill you!" it sickens me what mass propaganda is driving our society today. Anti-smoking is just the beginning. next thing you know it insurance companies will be able to test your eating habbits and raise your rates based on your diet, and employers will test your caloric intake as a part of their process of deciding whether on not to hire you. this is just one step to government control over the people's lifestyles. we're not far from 1984

I get what you're saying (nicotine =/= smoking), but nicotine is a poison. Our e-juice has high enough concentrations of nic to easily kill someone. It didn't matter if I was a bit careless with my loose tobacco (one less cigarette I could make), but being careless with my juice could result in the death of one of my wife's cats, or worse, myself.

Insurance companies don't need to test eating habits. Obesity is a known risk factor for many diseases, just like smoking. Insurance companies should be able to charge more to cover higher risk customers.

 

[slumdog]

If my friends pulled that on me, they'd be walking.

I know this is off topic but assuming that is you in your avatar....you look like Kevin Smith...............look everybody it's silent bob......where is jay at man?....j/k had to be said.....

 

[LibertariaNate]

If my friends pulled that on me, they'd be walking.

+1

I don't ask them to not smoke while I'm in their car.

 

[sqirl1]

I get what you're saying (nicotine =/= smoking), but nicotine is a poison. Our e-juice has high enough concentrations of nic to easily kill someone. It didn't matter if I was a bit careless with my loose tobacco (one less cigarette I could make), but being careless with my juice could result in the death of one of my wife's cats, or worse, myself.

Insurance companies don't need to test eating habits. Obesity is a known risk factor for many diseases, just like smoking. Insurance companies should be able to charge more to cover higher risk customers.

just because you can overdose on it doesn't make it a poison. take asprin for example. it can relieve headaches and save people with high cholesterol, but take one too many asprins and you could wind up in the ER or dead. granted asprin can't soak through your skin like nicotine can, but any drug can be overdosed on, even some vitamins can be fatal in an overdose. Nicotine may have some negative effects, but there are things just as bad if not worse than many people put in their bodies daily. take alcohol for instance: too much of that on a regular basis and you get liver cancer just as easy as smokers get lung cancer. only difference is the many, many medical uses nicotine has for conditions that are treated with prescription drugs like benzodiazepines that I would most certainly call poison.

 

[Linden]

I just read the whole thing and I am shocked at the mentality there. All I can say is thank GOD for the people on THIS forum

 

[davelog]

I know this is off topic but assuming that is you in your avatar....you look like Kevin Smith...............look everybody it's silent bob......where is jay at man?....j/k had to be said.....

That's me (although about 10 years ago, I'm a bit grayer now), and I get the Silent Bob thing enough to where I don't even wear a trenchcoat anymore. Nothing against Smith or his characters (I'm a fan), but I looked like this long before he did.