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The MTL has a few issues, it does leak a bit out the bottom.
The jfc don't seal well at all! I have to turn it up side down to put the cap back on when filing, or it floods the chamber, bad!
It's not a MTL atty imo. Maybe with the reducer, But I don't use it.
I still use both of mine, they vape very well! The flavour is good!
The draw with no restrictor is niceDirect Restricted Lung Hit.
I wouldn't recommend it cause of the issues, But I was able to see past the issues, cause it Vapes Well!!
Ah yes, now I remember. I forgot I saw PBusardo's video on that. Thanks Steamer.
So, you saying that the ones you listed are not the ones to use, but are similar ?
Thank you very much for that ian. I been looking for the bigger ones but didn't know what they were called.
I have never bought those specific grommets from that shop (being in the UK
)so couldn`t say with conviction that they are definitely the correct ones - and can`t afford to mislead with potentially incorrect information.
There are different sizes of grommets out there - I just found these different ones in my "box of spares"
I think it`s the larger size (the middle one, blurrily snapped here in 6:30am natural light)
As you can see, it`s difficult to determine which one is the exact type - 4 of these are very similar but are different and I can`t even recall where these came from.
If it helps to narrow it down any, I have just swapped over the one that sits inside the 510 of a SubTank Mini and the one I used in a Siren - they are the same.
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Ah, the Subtank again. We always seem to get back to that one, don't we. Thanks for that Fad, I'll look for the Subtank mini 510 grommet then.
This is true !
The silicone ones are too soft for use in a 510, they get squished out when tightening the pin, so it`s definitely the rubber variety.
The flange has to be the same size as the inner diameter of the Siren 510 - obviously or it wouldn`t fit inside (too small is equally useless)..
but importantly because there`s another flange inside the 510 of the siren where the original hard plastic insulator rests against...
..to stop it from going too far inside the 510 as you screw the 510 pin tight - this is where the problem lies...
the rubber material of the grommet allows to screw it down a bit tighter, it might not be much but that ~1mm can make all the difference between a gap and not, depending on the mod (the notorious shallow 510 on the Evic Mini for example)
Another plus point is that it makes a FAR better liquid-proof seal to prevent stray drops of liquid entering the 510 on the mod, which can be unseen for potentially days if you don`t remove the tank from the device - which I don`t.
The silicone ones are too soft for use in a 510, they get squished out when tightening the pin, so it`s definitely the rubber variety.
The flange has to be the same size as the inner diameter of the Siren 510 - obviously or it wouldn`t fit inside (too small is equally useless)..
but importantly because there`s another flange inside the 510 of the siren where the original hard plastic insulator rests against...
..to stop it from going too far inside the 510 as you screw the 510 pin tight - this is where the problem lies...
the rubber material of the grommet allows to screw it down a bit tighter, it might not be much but that ~1mm can make all the difference between a gap and not, depending on the mod (the notorious shallow 510 on the Evic Mini for example)
Another plus point is that it makes a FAR better liquid-proof seal to prevent stray drops of liquid entering the 510 on the mod, which can be unseen for potentially days if you don`t remove the tank from the device - which I don`t.
I remember JW saying that she just fills her Siren 22mm up to the top of the atomizer chamber, so I got curious. With a fully saturated wick to start off with, but the tank of my 22mm empty, I loaded up my 5ml syringe and started filling it and here's what I got:
from empty to the bottom of the coil deck (where the wick comes out) it takes 1.2ml of juice.
from the bottom of the coil deck to the top of the atomizer chamber is 1ml more of juice, so 2.2ml total now.
from the top of the atomizer chamber to full tank (including the semi circle fill ports) is another 2ml, so 4.2ml total to fill the 22mm Siren.
I was curious, like I said, and was doing nothing else exciting at the time, so I figured, why not. Inquiring Minds Wanted To Know !
from empty to the bottom of the coil deck (where the wick comes out) it takes 1.2ml of juice.
from the bottom of the coil deck to the top of the atomizer chamber is 1ml more of juice, so 2.2ml total now.
from the top of the atomizer chamber to full tank (including the semi circle fill ports) is another 2ml, so 4.2ml total to fill the 22mm Siren.
I was curious, like I said, and was doing nothing else exciting at the time, so I figured, why not. Inquiring Minds Wanted To Know !
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Thanks Fad for that info on how it works, and why to use what material and it's size. Your explanation will help everyone here.
...and thanks for those measurements (which I was too lazy to do )
This is the reason I always fill to the top, the atomising chamber of many tanks displaces far too much liquid for my liking,
so feel compelled to fill it almost to the top...
or at least fill the majority of the upper, empty section which holds the lion`s share of the liquid.
)This is the reason I always fill to the top, the atomising chamber of many tanks displaces far too much liquid for my liking,
so feel compelled to fill it almost to the top...
or at least fill the majority of the upper, empty section which holds the lion`s share of the liquid.
I got the bigger spacers yesterday and they suck. Would not recommend getting them. They are really thin and fall off when you remove the rba from the mod. Stick with the smaller 22 version.Thank you very much for that ian. I been looking for the bigger ones but didn't know what they were called.
I have a 22mm one that does that on my 22mm Siren/HΩ Tech G2 combo, and am thinkin' about using Superglue to afix it to the bottom of my Siren. It's the .5mm one. What da ya think ?
Btw meanwhile I think I have found the build that satisfies me the best !
I made myself a twisted 30ga kantal, 6 spires, 3mm ID, for 1.12 ohm firing at 14-16w.
So far, for me, it has been the build that delivered the best flavor/hit combo!!
I made myself a twisted 30ga kantal, 6 spires, 3mm ID, for 1.12 ohm firing at 14-16w.
So far, for me, it has been the build that delivered the best flavor/hit combo!!
I just noticed the Sirens have serial numbers underneath,
out of pure curiosity I wondered what anyone`s highest number was to get a vague idea of how many they may have produced.
My highest is 4040 (a 25mm) and 2128 (a 22mm)
I did lose a 22mm so can`t check that specific one of course.
out of pure curiosity I wondered what anyone`s highest number was to get a vague idea of how many they may have produced.
My highest is 4040 (a 25mm) and 2128 (a 22mm)
I did lose a 22mm so can`t check that specific one of course.
004148 is my highest. This is a (25mm). Hey Fad do you think a Nautilus bvc coil insulator would work for the Siren fix?
I can`t say if 4000+ is a decent run for an atomiser or not...certainly for high end but these ? Interesting none the less.
Is this the insulator in question ?
I haven`t got (or ever had) a Nautilus coil to to pull apart and test, so impossible to know for sure.
If I had to guess, I would say it is unlikely to fit due to the thickness and overall size - but images can be very deceiving.
Edit: Do you mean for the airtube or the 510 ?
I was thinking of the airtube leaking fix but then wondered if you meant for the 510.
If for the 510 it`s a possibility.
The OD must be a snug fit inside the 510 and the ID must be tight enough to securely hold the adjustable 510 pin in place...all tight.
I have similar insulators in my box of tricks but none would fit into the 510 of any atomiser I have tested in the past.
(I would always replace them if it was physically possible for any atomiser to prevent leaking into the mod.)
Is this the insulator in question ?
I haven`t got (or ever had) a Nautilus coil to to pull apart and test, so impossible to know for sure.
If I had to guess, I would say it is unlikely to fit due to the thickness and overall size - but images can be very deceiving.
Edit: Do you mean for the airtube or the 510 ?
I was thinking of the airtube leaking fix but then wondered if you meant for the 510.
If for the 510 it`s a possibility.
The OD must be a snug fit inside the 510 and the ID must be tight enough to securely hold the adjustable 510 pin in place...all tight.
I have similar insulators in my box of tricks but none would fit into the 510 of any atomiser I have tested in the past.
(I would always replace them if it was physically possible for any atomiser to prevent leaking into the mod.)
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I was talking about the airtube and yes that's the one.I can`t say if 4000+ is a decent run for an atomiser or not...certainly for high end but these ? Interesting none the less.
Is this the insulator in question ?
I haven`t got (or ever had) a Nautilus coil to to pull apart and test, so impossible to know for sure.
If I had to guess, I would say it is unlikely to fit due to the thickness and overall size - but images can be very deceiving.
Edit: Do you mean for the airtube or the 510 ?
I was thinking of the airtube leaking fix but then wondered if you meant for the 510.
If for the 510 it`s a possibility.
The OD must be a snug fit inside the 510 and the ID must be tight enough to securely hold the adjustable 510 pin in place...all tight.
I have similar insulators in my box of tricks but none would fit into the 510 of ANY atomiser I have tested in the past.
(I would always replace them if it was physically possible for any atomiser to prevent leaking into the mod.)
OK
While the o-ring should in theory be sufficient, I was using a grommet just because I had them.
Even then they are the small rubber ones and in addition to that the flange had to be cut off so it would fit - effectively leaving just a small rubber "tube"
I would wager a metre of Kanthal that those would be too big....but don`t quote me on that
While the o-ring should in theory be sufficient, I was using a grommet just because I had them.
Even then they are the small rubber ones and in addition to that the flange had to be cut off so it would fit - effectively leaving just a small rubber "tube"
I would wager a metre of Kanthal that those would be too big....but don`t quote me on that
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