I remember not too long ago an e-liquid manufacturer put titanium dioxide in his Unicorn Milk for that opaque look. There have also been some people putting dyes in their e-liquids that are not certified for inhalation. A very small number are using 'natural' drug extracts. In 2013, a nicotine supplier in the US and a promoter of this site went and sold a batch of diluted oxidized nicotine. Another nicotine supplier here sold a poorly mixed batch that ranged from 8% to 15% nic between the bottles. These people lack basic food product manufacturing knowledge. They practice zero quality control on their ingredients for consistency and contamination and only practice, "It looks to me Jim." QA on their products. When you see something is 98% pure, you have to know what that other 2% is. People that are not invested in a proper ISO certified manufacturing facility are accidents waiting to happen. Dr. Farsalinos has been harping on this ingredient problem since the beginning. And it is the reason I have only bought one bottle of premade juice. I DIY so I can control my suppliers.IMHO.
Until the industry gets together and understands that vaping is so safe when compared to smoking that the FDA's deeming regs are the equivalent of shutting down adult Kool
Aid stands they will get no where. You got a ISO 7 certified lab. Big deal. Name one pathogen that has been spread by e-liquid made in someones kitchen. I am waiting. Has e.coli,salmonella, or listeria ever been found? How about the zika virus? Swine or bird flu? Monkey pox? Remember Monkey pox? The only thing better than vapings safety compared to smoking is its inherent safety and ease to make. Custom mixing at the counter is no more dangerous than having a bartender mix you a drink. How many of us blend our own Margarita's at home.Measure,mix and,pour. How hard can that be? Clean your equipment. Try not to get any on you.
Regards
Mike
And yet we still don't have any credible health issues. Nothing we use is certified for inhalation. There is of course room for improvement. People do get food poisoning every day from restaurants. A new industry and a lot has been learned in a short time.
Titanium dioxide is found in virtually every paint and premixed texture. It's used for marking
I don't see where it is a matter of creditable health issues. I see it as a matter of clean and wholesome products. 'Good Manufacturing Practices'(GMP) are well known in the food industry, e-liquid is a food, UC Davis sells GMP books for wine, beer and other products that will save one time going to all the different resources. Someday, I expect a GMP book on e-liquid. Phil Busardo recently toured a well setup e-liquid manufacturer in Benicia, Calif. and he has the video posted on his youtube channel:
https://archive.epa.gov/pesticides/reregistration/web/pdf/propylene_glycol_red.pdf
I don't see where it is a matter of creditable health issues. I see it as a matter of clean and wholesome products. 'Good Manufacturing Practices'(GMP) are well known in the food industry, e-liquid is a food, UC Davis sells GMP books for wine, beer and other products that will save one time going to all the different resources. Someday, I expect a GMP book on e-liquid. Phil Busardo recently toured a well setup e-liquid manufacturer in Benicia, Calif. and he has the video posted on his youtube channel:
Not every e-liquid manufacturer needs that large of a facility, but they should meet pharmaceutical manufacturing facility standards.
Chemicals can be certified, profiled, registered, G.R.A.S. listed, etc. and each word has a different meaning under the law. I apologize for using certified in a general manner. But, propylene glycol actually is generally regarded as safe for inhalation. Here is an EPA registration of propylene glycol as a pesticide and air sanitation chem for four companies. It is also considered baby safe(see page 2; paragraph 4). And who knew it made a good animal flea, mite and lice controller.
Of course, proper safe handling procedures for whatever is being used. The point though, is that you don't need a million dollar facility to mix e-liquid, but I can see why those with the facilities might want people to think that you do.
Pharmaceutical manufacturing facilities are not necessarily that clean and they do not have to cost a million dollars. They do create a manufacturing process standard and adhere to those manufacturing standards for each product they produce. I would think just certain ISO standards need to be implemented. I wouldn't want to inhale L.A. dust and smog along with my e-liquid. I also don't think we should have to trust a Malaysian vegetable glycerin manufacturer as to how pure his product is. It should be checked and recorded. I properly use 'food' as anything your body will metabolize into energy or nutrition. It doesn't have to down the gullet.
Many, if not most pharmaceuticals are actually manufactured in third world countries. USP is already a standard. Again though, this isn't medication, it's more like food. I've worked in kitchens, it's one reason why I cook most of my meals at home.
When one considers the processes one has to go through to make your basic Twinkie how
When one considers the processes one has to go through to make your basic Twinkie how
on Earth would one think that e-liquid is a pharmaceutical product? It's as safe,easy and as complicated to make as Kool-Ade.
On a side note the guy who invented the machine that injected the frosting into a Twinkie
lived here in Saint Paul,MN. A real local hero.
Regards
Mike
I would imagine so also. My point is in the process of manufacturing.I would imagine that there are several chemicals in twinkies that I would not want to inhale for 8 to 10 hours a day in a poorly ventilated enclosed space either.
