I think that's the biggest downside to e-cigs. You can take two pack a day smokers and they may go through totally different amounts of liqui d a day so it's harder starting out to know how much you will need.
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I think that's the biggest downside to e-cigs. You can take two pack a day smokers and they may go through totally different amounts of liqui d a day so it's harder starting out to know how much you will need.
One of my employees tried to talk me out of vaping when I first started because "his uncle tried it and he had to go to the hospital because his lungs wouldn't stop bleeding."
I decided to just pretend he hadn't said a word to me.
I decided to just pretend he hadn't said a word to me.
i am pretty sure that may not have been vaping related but instead a complication of smoking traditional cigs
Oh, I'm sure that's what it was but he was dead set on putting the blame on the ecig. Oh well, he smokes Marlboro Reds so I'm sure he'll know rough lungs soon enough.
Fixed that for you. It's a shame really, but whether it's vaporizers or some other topic people will quote anything they've heard as truth even if it has no factual basis.
I had an Aunt of mine give me flack about using a vaporizer, she saw it as a threat to her cigarette use. My mother and I both use vaporizers and explained what it was to her, but she didn't like the idea which was strange to me since she is a smoker. The other adults staying with us (we were on a skiing trip) thought the idea was great and were very curious (whom didn't smoke at all).
of course the friends probably also noticed the lack of ashtray smell coming from you. if the smell werent so bad then i'd say bottle it so we could blend in with smokers.
I was preparing to explain e-cigs to a patient of ours who smokes when she blurted out "Oh, I've already tried those-they gave me pancreatitis!" 
Some people are so ignorant that the first physical symptom that they experience after starting to vape, must be caused by the vaping and not the years of smoking they've already done. Not to say her pancreatitis was caused by smoking either, who knows what caused it, but it was too late-she couldn't be convinced otherwise.
Some people are so ignorant that the first physical symptom that they experience after starting to vape, must be caused by the vaping and not the years of smoking they've already done. Not to say her pancreatitis was caused by smoking either, who knows what caused it, but it was too late-she couldn't be convinced otherwise.the media seems to latch onto stuff like that too. tell someone that someone else died of (insert condition here) after switching to e cigs then the media uses that as their next attack against e cigs in general.
http://http://dhmo.org/
The h20 guys might get a kick out of this hoax site all about the problems with dihydrogen monozide.
There is an article in there somewhere about a law that was just shy of being passed due to this chemical. It is a hoot.
Sorry to "frankenthread" (what we called large divergence on another forum ages ago) -- but couldn't resist.
The h20 guys might get a kick out of this hoax site all about the problems with dihydrogen monozide.
There is an article in there somewhere about a law that was just shy of being passed due to this chemical. It is a hoot.
Sorry to "frankenthread" (what we called large divergence on another forum ages ago) -- but couldn't resist.
oh that site was a good laugh, the sad thing is most people would believe the site. my wife said they should also put on the site "you can become chemically dependant on it and once that happens you'll die if you dont have it."
considering that we should all drink at least 2 quarts i would add "if you dont consume large quantities of it"
When people try to tell me that they wish to be nicotine free, I ask them what they eat. Many vegetables contain nicotine. Eggplants, potatoes and tomatoes contain a fair amount of nicotine. One can get a bit more info at this site... FORCES Tavern
Of all the vegetables that contain nicotine, eggplant has the highest concentration. 100 ng/g. ng = nanogram. So, if a person vapes 2 ml of 10 mg/ml nic juice a day, and assuming that only 50% of the nicotine is absorbed into their body, then they are consuming 10 mg of nicotine, or 10,000,000 nanograms. In order to get the same amount of nicotine from eggplant, a person would have to consume 100,000 grams or 100 kilograms of eggplant. That is 220 pounds of eggplant. Approx. 450 pounds of tomatoes, 1,200 plus pounds of cauliflower, or 3,000 pounds of potatoes.
You are correct that no one that eats these foods is totally nicotine free, but the amounts in foods is very small.
Of course, feel free to check my math, I could have made a mistake.
Source: List Of Foods That Contain Nicotine | LIVESTRONG.COM
Have her blow some of her cigarette smoke through a tissue, and then you do the same. If you look at the results, you'll feel much better about vaping compared to smoking analogs. From what I've read, the worst ingredients of e-liquid is nicotine and propylene glycol. They use PG to keep tobacco moist ( as in oh...cigarettes maybe?). So, if that is true, your friends mom is getting all that you are getting from vaping....and MUCH MUCH more Saph
yea, the antifreeze thing: I usually end up giving a chemistry lesson. (as many of you probablyknow here) - Antifreeze' main component is ethylene glycol. It is great for cars cause it cools (has a high heat capacity) and has a very low freezing point, but highly toxic to people. There have been murder cases where people put antifreeze in someone's drink. It is slightly sweet so it doesn't taste bad - that's why you need to be careful when working on your car because dogs will drink puddles of antifreeze and become sick or die. e-cigs use propolyne glycol. It is totally harmless, and as pointed out here used in many many food items. It is classified by the FDA as not harmful (I forget the correct terminology.)
The words SOUND similar; misinterpretation is one of the hallmarks of ignorance. This is exacerbated by a lack of understanding of how when various compounds and/or elements combine, the end result may have totally different effects that bear no relation to the original constituents, chemically or physiologically. Case in point. Sodium and Chlorine are both deadly poisons. WHen chemically combined they make sodium chloride which is table salt...
The words SOUND similar; misinterpretation is one of the hallmarks of ignorance. This is exacerbated by a lack of understanding of how when various compounds and/or elements combine, the end result may have totally different effects that bear no relation to the original constituents, chemically or physiologically. Case in point. Sodium and Chlorine are both deadly poisons. WHen chemically combined they make sodium chloride which is table salt...
Yes, and the confusion is made all the worse because pg (and peg, which is also safe and sometimes used in juices) are also added to many antifreeze solutions, so it's not wrong to say that pg is an antifreeze ingredient. The irony is that the reason they started putting pg/peg in antifreeze is to make it less toxic.
The problem is it is purposeful misdirection on the part of those with a vested interest in the anti-nicotine movement. It is of course accurate to say that "an ingredient that is in e-cigs is also in anti-freeze" - those words weren't chosen randomly. Water is also in e-cig vapor and anti-freeze, PG is also in most asthma inhalers.
These words were chosen carefully to scare the general public who do not have the training or inclination to "parse" the language or do the research to learn the truth.
I have learned a lot from this experience, but the bottom line is that I've learned how incredibly naive I was.
I am amazed and disgusted at the lengths people with an agenda will go to in order to herd the masses.
And I am astounded at how successful these tactics are, and how easily the masses can be herded.
And it scares me how little remorse these murderers show, and how self-righteous they often are.
I know you're not supposed to just toss words like this around, but they remind me of Nazis.
Ahhhh, but at least YOU don't smell like an ashtray!
Bravo.
Reason enough to switch for me, + the $.
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