How to best thin ejuice?

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  1. slappy

    slappy Senior Member ECF Veteran

    Dec 3, 2010
    I've heard of using vodka or distilled water, but I thought I would ask the experts. ;)

    I've got 30ml of 30mg nic 100vg. I would like to thin it out to half the nic level. Or would it be better to just buy 30ml of 0nic 100pg of a similar flavor? (vapor room cotton candy)

    Thanks in advance
  2. Chime

    Chime Super Member ECF Veteran

    Nov 10, 2010
    Idk for sure but if it was me, i'd try it in small amnts like say turn 3 ml in to 6 ml 50/50, try it with everclear (or whatever higher proof the better), pg and distilled water and figure which I like best before I potentialy waste 30 ml on what works best for someone else.
  3. Kurt

    Kurt Quantum Vapyre ECF Veteran

    Sep 16, 2009
    I don't use PG in my DIYs. I use VG to dilute the nic, and if I am making a juice with 10% flavor I add 10% distilled water for thinning. I tried using vodka, and while the flavor blooming is a bit better, it dries me out too much, which is also why I do not use PG. My general rule is %flavor + %water = 20-22%.

    OTOH I have had some commercial flavored juices that are unthinned vg juices and are really great for dripping! So if I just want to drip, I sometimes make unthinned juices.
  4. slappy

    slappy Senior Member ECF Veteran

    Dec 3, 2010
    @Chime, small samples for sure.

    @Kurt: You say flavor "blooming", could you explain?
    Unthinned VG is like running a marathon in the tropics, feels like someone standing on my chest. :p
  5. jlarsen

    jlarsen Super Member ECF Veteran

    Feb 23, 2011
    Helena, MT
    I would think the best way to do it, to cut the nic level, would be as you suggested, to cut it with 0mg of the same (or similar) flavor juice. You could cut it with PG, and small amounts of PGA and/or water... especially if you want to thin it, as in reducing the viscosity as well as the nic level - but you'd be diluting the flavor too.
  6. Switched

    Switched ECF Guru ECF Veteran

    Feb 18, 2010
    Dartmouth, NS Canada
    I thin using distilled water @ 20%. To drop it down in nic, by all means acquire some 0 nic of the same flavour and mix the two together = no loss of flavour, 15mg and you wind up with a 50/50 blend.
  7. MadmanMacguyver

    MadmanMacguyver Ultra Member ECF Veteran

    Feb 8, 2011
    Dallas Texas
    I thin w same flavor it in small amounts,,,so you dont mess up whole batch...

    Flavor bloom...PGA or Vodka are excellent flavor carriers when vaporized... hence bloom...they will wake up flavors that were dull but that comes at a cost...they can make TH more harsh and can dry the throat...
  8. Kurt

    Kurt Quantum Vapyre ECF Veteran

    Sep 16, 2009
    The alcohol opens up the flavor some. Because ethanol evaporates at a lower temp, juice with ethanol in it will require less heat to evaporate, in general. The droplets that form (vapor clouds) are smaller too, so there is more surface area overall for the flavor to be at. It makes the flavor airier, for lack of a better word. Almost effervescent. At least that is how I describe the effect chemistry-wise. generally 5% ethanol is the most that is thins better than water. That all said, I am very happy with my water-thinned juices, and no one that has tried them complained about lack of flavor.

    As for unthinned being like a tropical marathon, in general that is true, but vaporgalaxy's tiramisu is unthinned 100% VG and so good!
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