lost flavour of diy e-juice but don't think it's vapours thongue

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Hadrian21

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I have some strange issues about taste:
I recently had some issues with capella and egoist:
took the bottle, read the mixing ratio, did the mix.

With capella orange juice:
first try after 2 days - like there was only base in my atty with no flavour. Smell almost not present. Went back to the store - no more capella orange juice flavour. Bought from another brand put flavour in my mix and now it is too strong.

With egoist no 23 grand reserve :
first try immediately after mixing: taste much too strong, almost like vaping pure flavour
second try after one week: very good, loved it
third: loved it too
fourth: taste almost disappears. Smell still good
all next: no more taste - like I vape just the base. Even when I squeeze the bottle I barely feel some smell. The mix is less then 1 month old and kept in a special dark cabinet.

With egoist no 8 White castle:
First try after 1 day: pure base not even smell from the bottle squeeze present.
Even more interesting - after 5-10 draws my whole mouth gets numb - like eating very hot soup.
so not feeling any taste by first draw pretty much excludes the vapours tongue.

In the whole time in my other atty I had pinkman. Taste and smell great and constant even after 70 ml vaped. Use both atty's all the time.
Both atty have the same build - kanthal of 0,4 mm coils at 0,7-0,8 ohm and 15W mtl
All mixes with a base pure vg with 13,5% water (mixed by manufacturer)
egoist no 23 mixed 20 ml flavour and 80 ml base - so 20% flavour
egoist no 8 mixed 20 ml flavour and 55 ml base - so 26% flavour - more flavour thinking vg base is the missing taste problem.
Nicotine about 6-9%.
always drink something while vaping.
Initially I vaped at 20W and thought the vapour was too hot and burning my tongue. Went down to 10W nothing changed except vapour production.
All expiration dates checked, bottles were sealed...

I can't explain all this and it gets frustrating and costly as I made the mistake of using 100 ml bottles for mixing and with the ones I don't like I have now 1/2 litre of e-juice to trow away!
I really tried to make everything by the book!
Any help and advise is appreciated!
 
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There's a weird paradox that goes on with flavors, where the more you add the less it will hold.

It seems to happen right about the 20% mark.
I agree, it is weird but true.

To the OP
Take a small bottle around 10-15 ml size and fill it with half of your ejuice and fill the other half with pg, vg or a combo. Don't worry about the nic right now.
Shake it and either taste test or put into a tank or dripper and see if you can now taste something. Don't throw anything away just yet.

Worth a try at least.
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Stop making such large quantities and make small 10ml test batches. Your wasting a lot of material.

Start at 5% and taste it. If there is no taste let it sit a day or 2 then try it again. And increase flavor by 1-2% if needed.

Also at 10w if you lost vapor production you need to change your coil. If those flavors are sweet flavors then at 20% flavor your likely clogging and burning up coils. If your coils are not burning up then your mixes may be to thick using a pure VG base and more water may be needed.
 
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With egoist no 8 White castle:
First try after 1 day: pure base not even smell from the bottle squeeze present.
Even more interesting - after 5-10 draws my whole mouth gets numb - like eating very hot soup.
so not feeling any taste by first draw pretty much excludes the vapours tongue.
Do you have any taste with any other e-liquid purchased of not?
 

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many thanks to all who replied!
you were 100% right! yesterday I purchased a pg base and put about 20-25% in each mix I had made and was tasteless.
today I tested them:

pinkman
initially 20% flavour and 80% a vg base with 13,5% water - started to feel muted taste.
today with the diluted mix extra 20-25% pg the flavour is almost too strong

egoist no 23 grand reserve
initially 20% flavour and 80% a vg base with 13,5% water - started to feel muted taste after 3-4 vaped tanks then flavour disappeared completely.
today with the diluted mix extra 20-25% pg the flavour came back. not very strong but the taste can be felt

egoist no 8 White castle:
initially 20% flavour and 80% a vg base with 13,5% water - no taste or smell from the first draw
today with the diluted mix extra 20-25% pg the flavour appeared and smell too. not very strong but the taste and the smell can be felt

I have also checked cotton to make a comparison with the past and it seems like new after a whole day of vaping. I can now also relate some of the problems I had with k5 and squape to my wrong mixes.
I made all tests at 15W to still get the fluffy clouds I was used to.
Thanks to this situation I discovered that I can vape with 3% nicotine without any kind of problem.

Thanks to your advices I managed to save my mixes and also took your advices and purchased smaller 10 and 15 ml bottles where I make my mixes in the future.
 
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