Diy juice loosing flavour??

[farmz]

I got some flavours from vapoursrus..

Made a basic mix of cherry menthol.. about 15% and 5% aniseed an cherry.. so 20% all in all..

Flavour tasted pretty good to start... and then it looses its kick... untill... I open the tank and reseal it...

I use a reaper original tank..

I dont get it. The vapour production is fine.. big air inlets... the vape starts off absolutely fine.. maybe even a bit strong...

But then it just dies.. is there something about diy juice that means in a sealed tank... it looses its flavour? Os this something to do with steaping?

Why should I need to keep opening the tank litterally every few big pulls?

Vjuice mermaids tears always tasted jist fine.. but my juice tastes wak after a few bangs... untill more air is let in...

Or is there something I should be adding as some kind of flavour catalyst to keep things ticking over?

Thanks

 

[Train2]

Sounds like it's not really the liquid that's the issue - if the flavor "comes back" then...well...it was there all along, just not getting from the juice to you. Since opening the tank has an effect, my guess is that your liquid isn't wicking well enough - that opening the tank is getting more juice to the coil - and when you get flavor, it's from a more juicy coil.

Maybe play with the wicking (if you have that option) - you didn't say what equipment you're using.
Or maybe mix a batch that's a little THINNER (higher PG) to make wicking easier.

Good luck - I'll bet it's the tank, and hope you figure it out!

 

[farmz]

Yeah.. its an ijoy reaper tank.. the original one.... it is with some rba coils and also rebuilt stock coils I built myself.. so I will try re wicking an see if its too tightly packed.. havnt been building long..... didnt even cross my mind as there is seemingly plenty of vapour... maybe ive just used to the hit of lung fulls of sweet burning organic cotton... eesh...

Thanks for advise

 

[tckenno]

If the atomizer side looks good farmz, focus on the juice. 20% flavor is fairly strong and with time may become overpowered. For me this shows itself as a loss of flavor and sometimes a "musty" taste. An easy way to check this out is to have a bottle of unflavored juice in whatever ratio you vape and just top the tank with it at some point and see if flavor improves. In your case for instance, at half tank take it to three quarters with unflavored and vape for an hour. If no change, take it to the top and do same. Allow new mix to sit overnight if possible. Can sometimes make a surprising difference.

 

[farmz]

Thanks for the input... il give it a recoil first as this seems to make sense since just the action of opening and closing does sort the problem 100%... it is pretty strong but I kinda litle it like that... it does have a bit of an odd taste when it when the flavour fades tho.. kinda reminiscent of smoking an old ... ....... kinda cringe (what am I smoking this .... for) slightly metallic sucked coin egde.. with hardly any menthol hit... which considered the contrast between first puff after filling and say... the10th... being a fresh menthol and down to a dirty sock...

The ratio is about 25vg 75pg after mixing as im using premix nic base.. which maybe a bit thick.. so maybe il try adding something to water it down if re wicking doesnt work...

Whats best to dilute a mixture? Few drops of water?

 

[tckenno]

Would agree the variations in flavor you are mentioning tend to point to the tank rather than the juice as culprit. Dryish hits for some reason... Have you tried priming wick by drawing and not firing in between hits to help reload wick or even covering air inlets and sucking to flood chamber a bit? On the other hand if you think opening tank somehow is breaking a vacuum, covering inlets and puffing in should push air into the chamber. If your tank has large window you may see a BB size bubble or two enter juice chamber.

Unless you meant 75 VG/25 pg your juice thickness should not be an issue. I've not had to thin juice, not sure what to recommend in that regard.

 

[BrotherBob]

I got some flavours from vapoursrus..
Made a basic mix of cherry menthol.. about 15% and 5% aniseed an cherry.. so 20% all in all..
Flavour tasted pretty good to start... and then it looses its kick... untill... I open the tank and reseal it...
I use a reaper original tank..
I dont get it. The vapour production is fine.. big air inlets... the vape starts off absolutely fine.. maybe even a bit strong...
But then it just dies.. is there something about diy juice that means in a sealed tank... it looses its flavour? Os this something to do with steaping?
Why should I need to keep opening the tank litterally every few big pulls?
Vjuice mermaids tears always tasted jist fine.. but my juice tastes wak after a few bangs... untill more air is let in...
Or is there something I should be adding as some kind of flavour catalyst to keep things ticking over?
Thanks

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[IDJoel]

it does have a bit of an odd taste when it when the flavour fades tho.. kinda reminiscent of smoking an old ... ....... kinda cringe (what am I smoking this .... for) slightly metallic sucked coin egde.. with hardly any menthol hit... which considered the contrast between first puff after filling and say... the10th... being a fresh menthol and down to a dirty sock...

My money is on the cotton being packed too tightly; especially if these are re-builds. Your description sounds like a partial dry hit. Your tank is wicking but not wicking fast enough to keep up with your vaping rate. You are not outright scorching the cotton but it is drying out with consecutive puffs. This will lessen the flavor and start to caramelize and even begin to burn the build-up that naturally occurs on all coils. I agree with @tckenno, that if you are genuinely vaping a 75PG/25VG ratio, you should not be having viscosity issues; even with the smaller coil heads the reaper appears to use.

(Note: many (most?) tanks do use a partial vacuum created by the juice exiting the tank to the chamber to help prevent flooding. This is why removing the cap helps temporarily.)