mods blowing up? Really?

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rondasherrill

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I never said any of this wasn't the case. Of course batteries have limits. The exaggeration and hyperbole is what I have a problem with. Words like "explode" and "pipe bomb" are disingenuous, to say the least.

Exaggeration and hyperbole imply that something has been stretched beyond truth, but in FACT, "explode" and "pipe bomb" have happened. Not only that, but even if it DID happen to you(general, not you specifically), how likely would you be to come into the forum and tell us all how you did something that we all warn against.
 
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Compare it with skydiving and basejumping.

Gravitiy sucks - reliably and big time - for everyone.

So skydivers see to it that safety is maximized and risk factors are minimized.

Basejumpers even more so.

Just like sub-ohmers, they 'work' with narrower margins - pretty little time for the chute to deploy and get suffcient air under it to make the difference between a landing and hole in the ground.

Pretty little wattage between a great vape and a hole in the face...

Won't stop either from being practiced. Won't stop accidents from occuring, no matter how safe you try to play it.

Won't ever prompt me to say 'don't' . Just know what you're doing. You old enough. Is your life and your health. vape on :)
 

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The vid above is today's technology, so it poses deep thought (for some anyhow) on how large an explosion will be generated by Lithium-air technology due for release within the next decade or so. Li-air cells are said to contain 5-10 times the capacity of today's Li-ion equivalent. Imagine that explosion being multiplied by 10 or even 5-fold. Vapers, if there are any FDA/government survivors by then, may well have to hold an explosives licence along with the ensuing red tape, to be able to vape.

As for denigrating those who advocate safety mr B1sh0p, I would inform you that back in 2006 Sony were forced to recall nigh on 10 million Li-ion cells based on a 1 in 200,000 failure rate. This in fact caused them a 38%/$500m profit hit the following year and it indicates just how much concern was placed on safety. Is there a particular reason why you should be so different?

Leading on from this and for the benefit of those who do not know, apart from user abuse and device failings, it should be appreciated exactly how a Li-ion cell works. In very simplistic terms and using the line diagram below as section through a cell, it can be seen that it is formed by two parts separated by, strangely enough, a separator.

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Ions travel between the cathode and the anode depending on whether the cell is being charged or discharged. The ions are not the issue. The issue being that due to the complex processes in how the battery is manufactured each ode contains numerous microscopic metallic particles perpetually floating around within.

Ordinarily, these particles do not pose a problem but there are rare occasions whereby they cling to the separator and if enough gather in one spot heat will be generated and a short circuit will be formed. This then leads onto the obvious, that the larger the assembly of particles will determine whether it becomes a mild short or a hard short, in which case it will inevitably lead to thermal runaway. Make no mistake. When a battery goes into thermal runaway, there is no stopping it from exploding, or as battery manufacturers call it, "rapid disassembly".

It has to be pointed out that this is indeed a very rare occurrence but it is a possibility nonetheless.
 

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    Sub ohm vaping is more popular than it's ever been in the history of vaping. Mechanicals are more popular than they've ever been in the history of vaping. "Exploding" batteries are more rare than they've ever been in the history if vaping. There used to be weekly reports of egos shooting off of chargers like bottle rockets. Nobody was a safety advocate then. Actually, they were; they just told you to buy a nicer regulated mod because the Chinese were dangerous. It's all bull.... fear mongering.

    You have a better chance of being struck by lightning while hot boxing a Newport and riding a bike than you do by having a mechanical "explode."

    9 fires and a death in one city in the UK
    http://rt.com/uk/179040-ecigarette-explosion-merseyside-death/

    PureSmoker, maker of the mechanical mod used, no longer exists
    Electric Cigarette Explodes in Fla. Man's Face - ABC News
     

    Kaezziel

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    I will bet money that there is someone out there RIGHT NOW trying to do just that with a Puck. (Is the Puck still something people know about? I know it was popular a couple years ago)

    I built a Puck before there was such a thing as a Puck... waaaaayy back when (about 5 years ago) I was dissatisfied with the cig-a-likes and went to Radioshack to find some parts to make a battery pack that would last longer than those little stick batteries... Came home with a 4-bay AA battery pack and tore the 510 connector out of an old dead stick batt... drilled a hole, soldered and epoxied the connector in, added a switch and voila!! Ran those little cartos like a champ!

    Never tried to sub-ohm with it though..... :facepalm:
     
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